Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

greendom · 31-08-2015 11:37AM

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Anthony Martial becomes the most expensive French footballer of all time & the 5th most expensive player of all time with this deal!

duffman13 · 31-08-2015 11:38AM

ricero wrote: »

The transfer fee is indeed insane for potential. Woodward once again showing himself up to be an amateur in this field

In what way? Made five signings this summer with the minimum of fuss all for sums which I'd say are very respectable. This deal is mental money in euro terms, it's £40 million though. City just bought Sterling for 49 and De Bruyne for 55.

I have seen Martial play twice and he's hasn't stood out to me but I thought the Sterling fee was huge for what is basically potential. Might be time to reexamine the price of players. £40 million seems to similar to £20 million 3 or 4 seasons ago.

At the end of the day your point about Woodward being an amateur is pretty harsh, I'm pretty sure he would be told by LVG on who he wants and a ball park figure. I doubt Woody pulls a figure out of the air and throws it on the table, seems fairly shrewd in my opinion

Andersonisgod · 31-08-2015 11:39AM

ERG89 wrote: »

€80m for De Bruyne & €50m for Martial. The premier league teams are just pumped with money & are spending top money on players not yet the finished article.
People were saying Utd overpaid for Di Maria last summer but he was a lot better a player than De Bruyne is now for the same price.

Di Maria was a more proven player than De Bruyne given his exploits with Real Madrid, Benfica and Argentina. However I'm not sure that he's "a lot better" than De Bruyne who, judging by some comments I've seen on here, might surprise a few people with City because he really is excellent.
If you are to believe certain reports, the overall fee could rise to €75 million for Martial. If you accept that then you would say that De Bruyne at €80 million is a bargain (something nobody should ever say when you are paying €80 million for a footballer.)
Martial is 100% a talent, he will almost certainly get better and grow to become more influential in games. This isn't just a signing for the future, its a signing for now because he can and will do things that no other player in the Man Utd squad can do. However De Bruyne is the Bundesliga player of the year and City were happy it seems to pay big money to bring in a world class player who wanted to play in England, Man Utd are, for the most part, paying an exorbitant fee for potential.

Harry Palmr · 31-08-2015 11:40AM

So then is Martial part of a plan? or just going to lead to ruin?

Andersonisgod · 31-08-2015 11:43AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So then is Martial part of a plan? or just going to lead to ruin?

I've no doubt Man Utd have been planning on signing a striker given who they've let leave from early in this window but I am certain Martial was not top of their striker recruitment list and, looking at that price, they've panicked.

CantGetNoSleep · 31-08-2015 12:15PM

Martial reminds me of a young David N'Gog

Giggsy11 · 31-08-2015 12:21PM

N'Gog, Origi, Henry..

Not sure where this will end up.

Skylinehead · 31-08-2015 12:24PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So then is Martial part of a plan? or just going to lead to ruin?

Americans invest to aid a wounded Europe( football club): the Martial plan :pac:

(shamelessly robbed)

CSF · 31-08-2015 12:26PM

I do think Woodward may be clinging onto his role there based on how certain things have gone this summer.

The Schneiderlin and Darmian signings no doubt look good but having coveted players all summer who could really have a massive impact it looks like they'll end up having completely failed in that regard.

Today is the day for something to have happened IMO with all the European deadlines closing up today so we'll have a better idea then if United have something up their sleeves other than Martial at a complete panic price.

kfallon · 31-08-2015 12:50PM

Martial is a great signing.....for the tabloid headline writers!!! :P

Turtyturd · 31-08-2015 12:59PM

I assume he can play in the CL, did he not play in the qualifiers or do they not count towards being tied?

adox · 31-08-2015 01:05PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

I assume he can play in the CL, did he not play in the qualifiers or do they not count towards being tied?

Qualifiers dont cup tie you any more.

Soups123 · 31-08-2015 01:15PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

I assume he can play in the CL, did he not play in the qualifiers or do they not count towards being tied?

Qualifers dont count

retalivity · 31-08-2015 01:15PM

From the guardian, moses must have some agent.

Victor Moses is to sign a contract extension at Chelsea before leaving on another season-long loan, most likely to West Ham United.

Harry Palmr · 31-08-2015 01:57PM

Martial has no real idea about how Utd play (I imagine though in that regard he is arguably no more hindered than the rest of the squad), he will have no time to adjust and get to know his playing partners and the first match he could play in is against Liverpool who will hopefully be in game-raising mode after the Hammers Horror.

Cantona's Collars · 31-08-2015 02:50PM

Chelsea could be signing a new doctor to replace Eva Carneiro.They'll have to get Terry neutered if it happens.

LuckyLloyd · 31-08-2015 02:56PM

Knex. wrote: »

Why?

Forcing teams to spend within their means should be encouraged, imo.

That's not what FFP is really about imo or, at least, its consequences at the sharp end of the game do not relate to such an aim. If FFP was to succeed as designed it would serve to ring fence a limited number of clubs at the top of European football. The concept of sugar daddies is as old as football itself and in my opinion a man / organisation should have the right to buy a football club and run it as they see fit within whatever legislative / tax constraints exist in the jurisdiction concerned.

Moreover though, to take a low / mid level club and bring it to the top table a huge investment upfront is required. City / Chelsea are reaping the benefits of same. As they become more established in a competitive sense their revenues expand and consolidate. In the FFP world a City / Chelsea could not happen. And I say **** that, if someone wants to pay for the dream let them knock themselves out. That's capitalism.

Cantona's Collars · 31-08-2015 03:06PM

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/638365629762945024

Borini to Sunderland done.

RedemptionZ · 31-08-2015 03:11PM

zerks wrote: »

Chelsea could be signing a new doctor to replace Eva Carneiro.They'll have to get Terry neutered if it happens.

Chelsea and Mourinho's treatment of her was disgusting imo and it's a real shame that'll it'll probably be forgotten about once they get another attractive female doctor in to replace her.

Paully D · 31-08-2015 04:09PM

United getting really desperate now, signing a 46 year old:

CSF · 31-08-2015 04:28PM

United are gonna sign Berahino tomorrow, aren't they?

zarquon · 31-08-2015 04:35PM

CSF wrote: »

United are gonna sign Berahino tomorrow, aren't they?

It's looking likely with all the wheeling and dealing going on between them atm

Iused2likebusts · 31-08-2015 05:08PM

Can English clubs sign players from the European leagues tomorrow.

Harry Palmr · 31-08-2015 05:12PM

Adnan Januzaj to Dortmund on loan seems a weird one, Europa League games and the DFB-Pokal are as good as it'll get for him surely?

Bounty Hunter · 31-08-2015 05:16PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Can English clubs sign players from the European leagues tomorrow.

afaik they can but the European clubs cannot replace them by buying someone should they need to.

Harry Palmr · 31-08-2015 05:22PM

Quite ridiculous that windows are closing on different days. Should mean Jim White has very little to get excited about, stand by for some terribly strained tension over whether a player from a Championship club will be signed by a League One side and the like.

me89 · 31-08-2015 05:23PM

Alex song has resigned with West Ham.

Exclamation Marc · 31-08-2015 05:28PM

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

afaik they can but the European clubs cannot replace them by buying someone should they need to.

Yep they can indeed. The deadlines are actually for registering players as opposed to buying or selling players. Much like when Depay signed for United in May when the window was closed.

So when a window closes, the league teams simply can't register any more players but are free to offload at will (assuming another team in a different league can register the player).

It's a great point though about replacing players and I think tomorrow might be a quiet enough day. Unless buy-out clauses are met, no European team is going to sell any player unless they either don't want them or are offered crazy money.

Exclamation Marc · 31-08-2015 05:29PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Quite ridiculous that windows are closing on different days. Should mean Jim White has very little to get excited about, stand by for some terribly strained tension over whether a player from a Championship club will be signed by a League One side and the like.

The FA Fax Machines need a bank holiday too ya know :rolleyes:

31-08-2015 05:35PM

It's panic buying time. Should be interesting who panics the most!

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