Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

Kevin Nolan has left West Ham. SSN.

Winston Payne wrote: »

Nobody asked you and they both left for the same reasons.

OK.

You do understand how forums work, right?

Digne to Roma (loan with option to buy).
Llorente to Sevilla on a free looking likely.
Balotelli to Milan.....wont comment on the quality of it yet, although he hasn't done anything in 2 years. Milan needed a midfielder & another centre back both with pace

Godot. wrote: »

Who have Wolfsburg been linked with as a replacement for KDB? You'd think with £58m they'd be able to buy 2 or 3 high class players

Maybe Mkhitaryan, since he looks he might be available?
Some Russian teams still offloading foreign players due to new restrictions...

And Ziyech of Twente.

12 assist and 8 goals in Twente's last 21 goals. Those are Debruyne stats

Everton released a statement saying stones aint for sale and his transfer request has been refused, west brom also taking the same approach with berahino. Will be interesting to see if they can keep it up as the window draws closer to its end.

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Sterling got his agent to make absolutely sure he got his move, Stones plays the gentleman card and stays at Everton.

Seems like Stones did everything right, maybe a transfer request should actually mean something.

yeah, they should. Contract?? no **** that a player asked to get out of it so it should over rule the legal contract

HalloweenJack wrote: »

When was the last time a high-profile transfer request was accepted?

Seems like they're always rejected. I don't understand the point of them if that's the case.

Is it just a public acknowledgement of the player's desire to leave? And if so, how can a club reject a player's acknowledgement of that fact?

its a request to be transferred, the club can say no, you are more valuable to us than the money you would bring in

Players are contractually entitled to hand in a transfer request, at the cost of foregoing the loyalty bonus at the end of the contract if the request is accepted. Stones has done everything as he should have done in the circumstances and Everton are entitled to turn the request down.

Beefy78 wrote: »

Players are contractually entitled to hand in a transfer request, at the cost of foregoing the loyalty bonus at the end of the contract if the request is accepted. Stones has done everything as he should have done in the circumstances and Everton are entitled to turn the request down.

Absolutely, but there should be some recourse for a player rather than being stuck somewhere he doesn't want to be.

Ideally if the transfer request is not accepted it should force a buyout clause. Buyout clauses should be a mandatory clause in every contract in future. In the case where they haven't existed between premiership clubs some sort of arbitration should be available to set a fee, or even better some calculation should be applied using the players wage, wage increases, ages, national team call ups, u21s etc. Something like that. More science to it!

Neither the Sterling route nor the gentlemanly failure of the Stones approach are ideal.

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

no it should not force a buyout clause. FFS they signed a contract for thousands of pounds a week for a period of time. It's not as if they are forced to sign, a lot of clubs put a lot of time and money into players and deserve to get their services for as long as both parties agreed to

Almost every other type of contract includes a mechanism for it's termination. Right now in the football scenario this mechanism is basically Club A has a bucketload of money and club B needs to sell more than they need the services of the player. Club B has only hope and goodwill to go on to ensure the player actually performs and doesn't sit on his hands until Xmas when the window opens.

Seems to me it'd cleaner to get it wrapped up, get the money and move on. Perhaps a good contract would stipulate the buyout could only take place 1 month before the window closes.

Seems neater to me. At the end of the day the rich clubs get the players, I would be surprised if Stones doesn't go in January at this rate.

ps...I would 100% include a salary cap for clubs, sliding scale based on the division they play in.

Cleaner all round.

If I'm correct there was a ruling (maybe Andy Webster case?) to allow players to buy themselves out of contracts, but it was clubs who agreed not to use it?

This would potentially come into force where transfer requests are refused

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

If I'm correct there was a ruling (maybe Andy Webster case?) to allow players to buy themselves out of contracts, but it was clubs who agreed not to use it?

Looked it up and don't think it could be applied in this instance for now:

However, because he had served more than three years of his contract he was outside of FIFA's "protected period", and any compensation due to Hearts would, per Article 17, be based primarily on the amount of Webster's salary still outstanding—a figure estimated by Webster's advisors at approximately £250,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_ruling

Stones has only been at Everton since January 2013 so the Webster ruling can't come into effect 'til January next year.

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Joey Barton to burnley

So he'll now be Tweeting from Burnley then!