LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

unkel · 05-08-2015 07:30PM

jharr100 wrote: »

Is a Phaeton a luxobarge or a big Passat?

It looks like a Passat, but it's actually a hand-built Bentley. So yes it's a luxobarge alright :cool:

High on my list of cars to own, but that one is the least desirable of them all. Most people would want a diesel. Personally I'd want a petrol, but if I'm paying maximum tax, I'd want the 5l V8 or the W12 if my budget was higher and I had bigger balls

Eric Cartman · 05-08-2015 07:45PM

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507205351967?sort=default&search-target=usedcars&page=1&price-from=500&postcode=se10ab&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&engine-size-cars=5lplus&model=phaeton&channel=cars&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&logcode=p

now thats some serious car for the money.

unkel · 05-08-2015 07:51PM

That car on donedeal might only be FWD, I thought all of them were 4WD until I did a quick google. How can you tell, if at all, from the ad / pics?

Eric Cartman · 05-08-2015 07:58PM

unkel wrote: »

That car on donedeal might only be FWD, I thought all of them were 4WD until I did a quick google. How can you tell, if at all, from the ad / pics?

you'd need the VIN id imagine, it would kill me to find out that one was a fwd , but knowing Ireland it probably is.

Hachiko · 05-08-2015 08:12PM

jharr100 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/9900346

Is a Phaeton a luxobarge or a big Passat?
Looks good value to me..

Phaeton is nothing like a big Passat, its a true luxobarge.

MAJJ · 05-08-2015 09:59PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507205351967?sort=default&search-target=usedcars&page=1&price-from=500&postcode=se10ab&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&engine-size-cars=5lplus&model=phaeton&channel=cars&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&logcode=p

now thats some serious car for the money.

Just wow and 290GBP to tax in NI!

VRT into R. O. I would be cruel

Red Kev · 05-08-2015 10:59PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507205351967?sort=default&search-target=usedcars&page=1&price-from=500&postcode=se10ab&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&engine-size-cars=5lplus&model=phaeton&channel=cars&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&logcode=p

now thats some serious car for the money.

That's about €15,000 landed here with the exchange rate, VRT and transport. Nice car alright but that's top range W221 territory or a very good Roller or Bentley.

unkel · 05-08-2015 11:06PM

I guess we all realise that, Red Kev. Still not a bad thing to compare very cheap cars for sale over here with near concours condition, very high spec cars in the UK that could still be landed here for less than the price of a new small Hyundai!

Hachiko · 05-08-2015 11:12PM

MAJJ wrote: »

Just wow and 290GBP to tax in NI!

VRT into R. O. I would be cruel

nothing like 290gbp, try £505, still better than Ireland tho.

Hachiko · 05-08-2015 11:15PM

These barges are grand till they go wrong, you need a large pair to go buy one. Any serious parts or maintenance will break you.

Marcusm · 05-08-2015 11:22PM

Hachiko wrote: »

nothing like 290gbp, try £505, still better than Ireland tho.

It's pre Feb 2006 so it does not rank for the higher rates.

Marcusm · 05-08-2015 11:23PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507205351967?sort=default&search-target=usedcars&page=1&price-from=500&postcode=se10ab&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&engine-size-cars=5lplus&model=phaeton&channel=cars&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&logcode=p

now thats some serious car for the money.

Interesting choice of postcode. That's the area in which I have either worked, lived or had my car washed for the last 20 years.

Hachiko · 05-08-2015 11:28PM

Marcusm wrote: »

It's pre Feb 2006 so it does not rank for the higher rates.

its top band in England.

26000 Elephants · 05-08-2015 11:55PM

Marcusm wrote: »

It's pre Feb 2006 so it does not rank for the higher rates.

I thought the change was March 2001

Edit: March 2001 was the new tax bands, but after march 2006 its co2 based.

26000 Elephants · 05-08-2015 11:58PM

Hachiko wrote: »

its top band in England.

according to this its 290 quid.

Hachiko · 05-08-2015 11:59PM

after march 2001, that Barge has well over 255 Co2.! good luck getting cheap tax for it., its a friggin v12.

A Up to 100 £0 Not available Not available Not available Not available
B 101-110 £20 £20 £21 Not available Not available
C 111-120 £30 £30 £31.50 Not available Not available
D 121-130 £110 £110 £115.50 £60.50 £57.75
E 131-140 £130 £130 £136.50 £71.50 £68.25
F 141-150 £145 £145 £152.25 £79.75 £76.13
G 151-165 £180 £180 £189 £99 £94.50
H 166-175 £205 £205 £215.25 £112.75 £107.63
I 176-185 £225 £225 £236.25 £123.75 £118.13
J 186-200 £265 £265 £278.25 £145.75 £139.13
K* 201-225 £290 £290 £304.50 £159.50 £152.25
L 226-255 £490 £490 £514.50 £269.50 £257.25
M Over 255 £505 £505 £530.25 £277.75 £265.13

Hachiko · 06-08-2015 12:01AM

26000 Elephants wrote: »

according to this its 260 quid.

thats b/s, I work here and know how much high tax is as mine is bad enough on bank K @ £490 p/a

2004 Phaeton >

2004PetrolSaloonAutomatic76000 miles
ANOTHER LIKE THIS.UNREPEATABLE OFFER, £9,990
Running costs
Urban mpg 13.3 mpg CO2 emissions 374 g/km
Extra Urban mpg 26.9 mpg Annual Tax £505
Average mpg 19.5 mpg

26000 Elephants · 06-08-2015 12:05AM

Hachiko wrote: »

thats b/s, I work here and know how much high tax is as mine is bad enough on bank K @ £490 p/a

VCA online calculator is showing different figures than their table. thats the confusion.

But this note explains it:
* Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006 ( Band K is 290)

Hachiko · 06-08-2015 12:18AM

the DVLA site says -

Those cars registered after March 1st 2001 fall into the VED band structure that goes from Band A (no road tax applies) to Band M (first year VED rate of £1,100).

M = £505

Be surprised if that car could be taxed for £290.

26000 Elephants · 06-08-2015 12:20AM

Hachiko wrote: »

the DVLA site says -

Those cars registered after March 1st 2001 fall into the VED band structure that goes from Band A (no road tax applies) to Band M (first year VED rate of £1,100).

M = £505

Be surprised if that car could be taxed for £290.

They also say

* Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006

Hachiko · 06-08-2015 12:25AM

interesting, I never checked up that asterix *, bit of a sneaky loophole there to be exploited.

Eric Cartman · 06-08-2015 02:33AM

£505 a year is still well fookin reasonable coming from the €1809 for 90s eurobarges we list in this thread.

Hachiko · 06-08-2015 08:11AM

true but most people in England will balk at such tax rates.

ofcork · 06-08-2015 06:18PM

I remember looking at an SL65 AMG on one of the cannonballs and the tax around the 500 mark!

Hachiko · 06-08-2015 06:30PM

yeah well SL65 or a Bugatti, the upper end of tax is £505 AFAIK.

unless there are more loop holes.

K.Flyer · 08-08-2015 11:33AM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

£505 a year is still well fookin reasonable coming from the €1809 for 90s eurobarges we list in this thread.

At todays exchange rate that is still only around 710 euro,

bear1 · 11-08-2015 04:41PM

Utter piss take this country is when it comes to motor tax. Costs less to tax a w12 vw in the UK than it does to tax a 2.2 diesel accord.
****.

Idbatterim · 11-08-2015 04:48PM

Utter piss take this country is when it comes to motor tax. Costs less to tax a w12 vw in the UK than it does to tax a 2.2 diesel accord.
****.

total disgrace! but I am delighted that you can now buy luxobarges or even 5 series, E class etc and pay f**k all in motor tax, even on the petrols...

Hachiko · 11-08-2015 06:28PM

bear1 wrote: »

Utter piss take this country is when it comes to motor tax. Costs less to tax a w12 vw in the UK than it does to tax a 2.2 diesel accord.
****.

that 'loophole' that applies to that v12 barge is exceptional, I was not even aware of that. Not many people really want v12s that old but certainly its a bit enticing for people who do want to purchase one knowing tax is that low. Most newer cars will be paying the guts of £500 for a large cc car based on co2 rates.

Big Nasty · 11-08-2015 06:30PM

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