True Detective [HBO] [** Spoilers **]

fitz wrote: »

I'm half expecting him to be the actual attacker of Farrell's ex-wife...

That wouldn't surprise me. I'd be pretty sure whoever Vince's character fingered for the attack wasn't the culprit anyway.

.ak wrote:

Thing about the original was it really felt like a real-world cop drama, everything was very believable despite being somewhat surreal. This is just a bit too noire/cliché so far...

Honestly I'd imagine something becomes a cliche because it is based off reality.

I don't see how the characters don't come across as real world or believable as last season. Maybe that's just my opinion. But a divorced cop with a drinking problem and struggling relationship with his son, a shady corrupt business afraid of his image being exposed, a cop with family issues, and a former military person with PTSD, all seem like things you find a lot in the real world and hence probably the reason they are cliche or overdone to an extent.

Finally though I don't mind cliches once I find something entertaining, and although the characters are cliches on their own I struggle to think of too many shows I have seen with all those characters as an ensemble which brings the originality and interest to me.

We know Farrell and Vaughn have connections and I imagine we will discover more connections within the four characters that they themselves might not even know yet.

Its one episode so can't say it will be awesome or terrible but I can say the first episode showed a lot of promise in the acting and story department and I can't wait to see how it unfolds.

Adamocovic wrote: »

Honestly I'd imagine something becomes a cliche because it is based off reality.

I don't see how the characters don't come across as real world or believable as last season. Maybe that's just my opinion. But a divorced cop with a drinking problem and struggling relationship with his son, a shady corrupt business afraid of his image being exposed, a cop with family issues, and a former military person with PTSD, all seem like things you find a lot in the real world and hence probably the reason they are cliche or overdone to an extent.

Finally though I don't mind cliches once I find something entertaining, and although the characters are cliches on their own I struggle to think of too many shows I have seen with all those characters as an ensemble which brings the originality and interest to me.

We know Farrell and Vaughn have connections and I imagine we will discover more connections within the four characters that they themselves might not even know yet.

Its one episode so can't say it will be awesome or terrible but I can say the first episode showed a lot of promise in the acting and story department and I can't wait to see how it unfolds.

Farrell's character is believable, but the bike cop and VV and the girl all just seem a bit too CSI-ish for me, too 'cool'.

One of the reasons I thought season 1 came across more realistic was the use of dialogue, the cops were using cop-shop dialogue you'll only really here in shows based on real-life based shows like the Wire. They're all so boring with brown suits and crappy shirts, all with ego issues, nothing overly exciting.

In this you have a mysterious high-way patrol man, all too broody, and a heroine with a taste for knives and marshal arts and then a nice guy mobster who runs the world as we know it. All a bit too far fetches and glamorous compared to the first one. But I get it, they're going for the noire element - but it is in no way close to the ground at all.

NufcNavan wrote: »

I meant the actress..

Ashley Hinshaw

is there no love for what has been done to this



nick cave version


:eek:

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is the kid not biologically Farrell's but his wife's rapist?

Looks that way, unless Farrell has some freckly ginger grandparent or something

ixoy wrote: »

Fairly sure that people weren't massively enthusiastic after the first episode of Season 1. People are in danger of judging the entire body of it against it - not so much here but definitely elsewhere.

And realistic characters in the first season? Excellent acting performances but I'd have hardly called Rust's nihilistic ramblings a realistic example of a cop.

Yeah his character traits made him a very unrealistic cop but no one cared about that as he was just so damn entertaining.

Also people saying the characters are clichéd is a bit much as Marty in season one was a character we have seen many times before in cop dramas.

Thought it was a very decent opener to the series. Farrell excellent and looks like Vaughn could turn in a good show when he gets to act; he didn't have much to do in the first episode.

The other characters will come into their own too I am sure, this will be a slow burner no doubt, but there should be some cracking moments. TD1 had some amazing scenes.

Comparing it to the first series was always going to happen, and I think it compares against the first episode of TD very well. I remember thinking how preachy McConaughey's character was and he was going to annoy the hell out of me; how wrong I was!

Just bloody hate waiting a week for the next one!! :mad:

JP Liz V1 wrote:

I am kinda thinking Paul or Frank will turn out to be gay or bi

Ah here, we've only seen one episode, it's way too soon to be using the characters' actual names!!

I enjoyed the first series and I thought the first episode of this series was pretty good. I'm looking forward to the rest of it.

I thought it was a good opener to the season. Absolutely detest the constant use of music. It seems way more over the top than in season 1. Can they not just let a scene play out without it?