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Caitlyn/Bruce Jenner...

  • 01-06-2015 06:22PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭


    SNIP.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Hmm... will these "celebs" ever find the bottom of the attention seeking barrel?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Fudge You


    ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    These are wonderful times to be alive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    Im so happy for her !


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A load of nasty judgement and prejudice from that guy in an opinion piece. http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/bruce-jenner-is-not-a-woman-he-is-a-sick-and-delusional-man/

    We already know there are bigots, he's just one more.

    Jenner is pretty brave to follow her heart at this point in her life, in the full glare of publicity. That takes a level of determination and guts I don't even understand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,705 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Showbiz forum -->

    <-- LGBT forum

    Soccer Forum -->


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,701 ✭✭✭Lisha


    Best of luck to Caitlyn Jenner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Hmm... will these "celebs" ever find the bottom of the attention seeking barrel?

    Gender-reassignment surgery: because there's simply no easier way for a celebrity to get attention.

    *all the f*cking rolleyes*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    Looks like Idina Menzel.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Fudge You wrote: »
    You are gonna be fudged when Links comes along.

    You'll regret starting this thread.
    I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the show.

    See ya pal.

    I thought the same and that was before I read the second link

    Links is gonna eat op alive that second link is pretty extreme


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,898 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    SNIP.

    That's a very similar argument to the one that's used against gay people. Fix their heads kinda thing.


  • Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hmm... will these "celebs" ever find the bottom of the attention seeking barrel?

    Pretty ignorant response right here. There are people who go their entire lives living inside what feels like the wrong body for fear of being on the wrong end of ridicule just like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Gender-reassignment surgery: because there's simply no easier way for a celebrity to get attention.

    *all the f*cking rolleyes*

    Meh, him/her and their whole family are one rolling reality show. If anyone thinks this was done without even a thought about publicity then they need their head examined.

    What was the need to pose on Vanity Fair after your gender re assignment? Loads go through the same procedure without the need to appear on a magazine after...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,011 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    I wish he/she would fcuk off and take his attention seeking family with him/her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,073 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Born a man, die a man. He seems happy though so im glad for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Candie wrote: »
    A load of nasty judgement and prejudice from that guy in an opinion piece. http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/bruce-jenner-is-not-a-woman-he-is-a-sick-and-delusional-man/

    We already know there are bigots, he's just one more.

    Jenner is pretty brave to follow her heart at this point in her life, in the full glare of publicity. That takes a level of determination and guts I don't even understand.

    Good read, thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭kona


    Pretty ignorant response right here. There are people who go their entire lives living inside what feels like the wrong body for fear of being on the wrong end of ridicule just like this.

    Yea but those people don't whore themselves out to the media. (S)he is making money from this and happy to.
    Could have just kept it quiet and gone ahead with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    Grayson wrote: »
    That's a very similar argument to the one that's used against gay people. Fix their heads kinda thing.

    There's a big difference though. Gender reassignment is changing your body parts. Having looked on twitter, many seem to think Bruce Jenner has deep rooted issues. Just from what I've read.

    I posted that article to get others opinions on it. I agree a lot of it is very extreme and I don't agree with EVERYTHING the author has said, it could have been written more compassionately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    It would be an extreme way to gain attention.

    Heard it described on a radio program that gender sexuality should be viewed on a scale from extreme masculine to extreme feminine, and the reality being most people are not at the extremes, but somewhere inbetween.
    Maybe a man with a feminine characteristics and feels feminine, or vice versa.
    It can't be easy, if you think about it, especially for those who go for surgery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Bruce Jenner is now a woman and has unveiled a new look on the cover of Vanity Fair! http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/caitlyn-jenner-bruce-cover-annie-leibovitz :eek: To me, it seems like gender reassignment isn't the answer. Obviously someone who does something like this would have deep rooted issues and surely he needs help with his mind, not his body? :/ I say this as I read this article which has some great points http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/bruce-jenner-is-not-a-woman-he-is-a-sick-and-delusional-man/ I do feel for his daughters, it must be so utterly surreal for them!

    :rolleyes:

    For the Jenner children, the issue of the transition has become a non-issue. They were already aware of their father’s identity as a woman when he told them individually about the transition—Burt and Cassandra had learned from their mother roughly 20 years earlier, when they were 13 and 11; Brandon had assumed it because of the obvious physical changes he had observed; and Brody was told by his mother when he was 29. They tell Bissinger they feel both happiness for their father and inspiration at his bravery, and they all still see their dad as their dad regardless of any gender label. Brandon said he was a little taken aback when he saw Caitlyn for the first time after surgery and she pulled her top up to reveal her new breasts. “Whoa, I’m still your son,” he reminded her.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Magico Gonzalez


    How the fck do you reach the conclusion that "obviously" gender reassignment isn't the right solution here. Was it after reading an online celebrity gossip magazine article...is that how you reach your conclusion?

    Tremendous.

    Fair play to her, can't be easy putting up with cynicism and amateur hour pop pyschology diagnosis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Meh, him/her and their whole family are one rolling reality show. If anyone thinks this was done without even a thought about publicity then they need their head examined.

    What was the need to pose on Vanity Fair after your gender re assignment? Loads go through the same procedure without the need to appear on a magazine after...

    Primarily because she was invited. You don't ring Vanity Fair and ask to be photographed by Annie Liebovitz and put on the front cover.
    I'd imagine it's also largeley due to a desire to normaise the concept of transgender as there's still an absurd level of prejudice against transgender people.
    And also probably personal pride at having finally become the person she knew she was.
    And yes, lots of other people are transgender individuals, but they're not world-famous Olympians and reality-tv stars, so they wouldn't attract the attention of your average Vanity-Fair cover star.

    Even if she had done this due to emotional issues (which is highly doubtful as few professionals would ok the procedure if there were doubts about her mental state), so what? It's her life, it doesn't affect you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    She looks amazing. Reminds me of Idina Menzel/Jessica Lange. Well done!


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Honest question. Is Caitlyn a father still or now a mother? What way does that go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    How the fck do you reach the conclusion that "obviously" gender reassignment isn't the right solution here. Was it after reading an online celebrity gossip magazine article...is that how you reach your conclusion?

    Tremendous.

    Fair play to her, can't be easy putting up with cynicism and amateur hour pop pyschology diagnosis.

    I've seen a good few articles that say BJ probably has some issues and this may not make him happy in the long run. One I believe was written by some psychologist. The articles I've read raised some good points and I did find myself agreeing with most of what was said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Honest question. Is Caitlyn a father still or now a mother? What way does that go?

    father

    he will always be a father


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    so what? It's her life, it doesn't affect you.

    Can you point out the part where I said it did?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    I've seen a good few articles that say BJ probably has some issues and this may not make him happy in the long run. One I believe was written by some psychologist. The articles I've read raised some good points and I did find myself agreeing with most of what was said

    Did this psychologist have a doctor/patient relationship with Bruce?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Can you point out the part where I said it did?

    The fact that you posted in this thread suggests you're interested.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    The fact that you posted in this thread suggests you're interested.

    Interested does not mean "affects my life" as you said.

    Now please, where did I say it affected my life?


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