Jurgen Klopp: Where next?

Will I Amnt · 29-04-2015 07:11PM

monkey9 wrote: »

I think Klopp has a genuine fondness and respect for Liverpool. I'm just basing this on stuff I have seen myself and read about.

I don't think it's outlandish to think he'd want to manage Liverpool.

I never said it was. I just don't see anything in that article that would make me think it more likely.

I'd say he would be a perfect fit for Liverpool in my honest opinion and I'd look upon him as one of the people I most admire and genuinely like in football, so I'm very much interested in any signs of him moving to Liverpool and I'm not seeing much there.

smileyj1987 · 29-04-2015 07:23PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I never said it was. I just don't see anything in that article that would make me think it more likely.

I'd say he would be a perfect fit for Liverpool in my honest opinion and I'd look upon him as one of the people I most admire and genuinely like in football, so I'm very much interested in any signs of him moving to Liverpool and I'm not seeing much there.

I think it will be Liverpool , Arsenal or Man Utd for Klopp. To me he seems to have a thing about him that he wouldn't touch one of the heavily funded clubs that don't have that X-Factor about them.

Rayne Wooney · 29-04-2015 07:30PM

Liverpool are an option just like West Ham would be an option

I can only see him going to a bigger club like City or Madrid, even if he fails he'll still get a good job after like AVB going from Chelsea to Spurs. Fail at Liverpool and who would take him

29-04-2015 07:32PM

Why do people think he wouldn't manage City?

A tilt at the title and a chance to try to win the club it's first CL.

Great project for any manager

Lukker- · 29-04-2015 07:41PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Why do people think he wouldn't manage City?

A tilt at the title and a chance to try to win the club it's first CL.

Great project for any manager

Some weird moral code that he apparently abides by. Loads of people in this thread seem to have an inside knowledge of it but can't really elaborate on it further.

Fact is, at the end of the season when he starts getting offers, he is going to the club that:

1. Has the best players
2. Will back him in the transfer market
3. Offer the best wages.

29-04-2015 07:42PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Some weird moral code that he apparently abides by. Loads of people in this thread seem to have an inside knowledge of it but can't really elaborate on it further.

Fact is, at the end of the season when he starts getting offers, he is going to the club that:

1. Has the best players
2. Will back him in the transfer market
3. Offer the best wages.

The armchair fans made up BS code more like :pac:

smileyj1987 · 29-04-2015 07:46PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Why do people think he wouldn't manage City?

A tilt at the title and a chance to try to win the club it's first CL.

Great project for any manager

I just get the feeling he is the type of man that wants a project at a decent club to go and do his thing instead of being backed with the best wages / players that he wants to build this instead.

keith16 · 29-04-2015 07:48PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Not much in that other than him assuming he would like to manage a similar club to Dortmund.

Exactly, and if thats the only factor, then why not stay at Dortmund?

29-04-2015 07:49PM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I just get the feeling he is the type of man that wants a project at a decent club to go and do his thing instead of being backed with the best wages / players that he wants to build this instead.

Maybe Dortmund was his project and now he wants to move to a bigger club with mega money?

Who knows.

Certainly nobody here anyway!

I'd be shocked if he got an offer from Madrid or City and he refused.

Lukker- · 29-04-2015 07:51PM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I just get the feeling he is the type of man that wants a project at a decent club to go and do his thing instead of being backed with the best wages / players that he wants to build this instead.

I'd imagine Klopp is confident enough in his own abilities that if he went to a club like that, that he wouldn't fear the sack as he'd be a success.

He's going to a big club mark my words.

I reckon he's going to a club that has the financially security to keep all their top players. After losing so many top players at Dortmund I think he wants to try a club where that doesn't happen.

Agent Coulson · 29-04-2015 08:39PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Liverpool are an option just like West Ham would be an option

I can only see him going to a bigger club like City or Madrid, even if he fails he'll still get a good job after like AVB going from Chelsea to Spurs. Fail at Liverpool and who would take him

The England national team.

niallo27 · 29-04-2015 08:59PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Liverpool are an option just like West Ham would be an option

I can only see him going to a bigger club like City or Madrid, even if he fails he'll still get a good job after like AVB going from Chelsea to Spurs. Fail at Liverpool and who would take him

Are you saying that Liverpool are in the same bracket as west ham.

Utopia Parkway · 29-04-2015 09:08PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Liverpool are an option just like West Ham would be an option

I can only see him going to a bigger club like City or Madrid, even if he fails he'll still get a good job after like AVB going from Chelsea to Spurs. Fail at Liverpool and who would take him

Rafa got a job at Napoli via a stint at Chelsea. Bloody Hodgson got the England job. There are always jobs available.

29-04-2015 10:33PM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Exactly. It's quite baffling. This has been a trend with Liverpool for some time now and still isn't getting addressed. I just don't understand what the powers that be in Liverpool are saying to each other when they are about to throw out big money on the likes of Charlie Adams etc. Shouldn't a club of their magnitude and history who are aspiring to be the best be asking themselves, is this guy at the level where he'll help us become one of the best teams in the world? Would he be getting on the Real Madrid team or would they even look twice at him? The dogs on the street could tell you the answer to both is no. But regardless, Liverpool fire ahead and spend big on these mediocre players regardless. And it's always an English player with a few good months of form, basically unproven over a long period. Since Benitez came, I'd love to see the figures are of the money they have actually thrown away. Over 500 million I'd say. It's astounding really

They hardly spent 'big money' on Adam. That said I was always baffled by the sheer amount of players that Rafa would go through. There'd always be 3 or 4 players signed in the 5-10m range every season that wouldn't add to the team and you'd wonder why they didn't just spend 20m on someone who would improve it greatly. Especially when you seen the ones that the bit extra was spent on like Mascherano and Torres being their standout signings.

CSF · 29-04-2015 11:02PM

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I just get the feeling he is the type of man that wants a project at a decent club to go and do his thing instead of being backed with the best wages / players that he wants to build this instead.

Based on? He went to Dortmund from Mainz. Probably because they had a higher wage budget, transfer budget and wages to offer him. Mainz is a lovely little club too you know.

MightyMandarin · 29-04-2015 11:17PM

CSF wrote: »

Based on? He went to Dortmund from Mainz. Probably because they had a higher wage budget, transfer budget and wages to offer him. Mainz is a lovely little club too you know.

I'd also hazard a guess that in the pre-Guardiola period at Bayern, when they seemed to have a new manager every season, he was offered the job and turned it down. I'd also say he was offered jobs at other 'bigger' clubs around Europe in the past few years too.

Obviously this is pure speculation, but so is the notion that 'Klopp will definitely go to City because they have CL football, better players, and lots and lots of money'.

Lukker- · 29-04-2015 11:20PM

I highly doubt Klopp was ever offered the Bayern job.

Oat23 · 29-04-2015 11:23PM

Lukker- wrote: »

I highly doubt Klopp was ever offered the Bayern job.

You would be correct.

CSF · 29-04-2015 11:23PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

I'd also hazard a guess that in the pre-Guardiola period at Bayern, when they seemed to have a new manager every season, he was offered the job and turned it down. I'd also say he was offered jobs at other 'bigger' clubs around Europe in the past few years too.

Obviously this is pure speculation, but so is the notion that 'Klopp will definitely go to City because they have CL football, better players, and lots and lots of money'.

I'd say it's pretty unlikely given the timeline of his rise to prominence, and the corresponding happenings of Bayern, that he has ever turned down the Bayern job. Extremely unlikely.

Heynckes was boss from 2011 until Guardiola. Klopp would not have been offered the job ahead of Pep or Heynckes before him.

Rayne Wooney · 29-04-2015 11:50PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Are you saying that Liverpool are in the same bracket as west ham.

No

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The England national team.

Didn't he go down a peg and do pretty well with West Brom before that though, could you imagine Klopp managing Aston Villa or Stoke

RedemptionZ · 30-04-2015 12:05AM

If I were Klopp I'd have to go somewhere I was guarantee'd to have the financial power to retain the team I've built. Dortmund losing all their best players to Bayern must be extremely disheartening. It would certainly take a toll on me and make the richer clubs more appealing.

I'd personally like to see him at City if he were to join straight away, could do some serious damage with the money at his disposal. Or Arsenal if Wenger retires after the 2015/16 season.

niallo27 · 30-04-2015 12:37AM

Liam O wrote: »

They hardly spent 'big money' on Adam. That said I was always baffled by the sheer amount of players that Rafa would go through. There'd always be 3 or 4 players signed in the 5-10m range every season that wouldn't add to the team and you'd wonder why they didn't just spend 20m on someone who would improve it greatly. Especially when you seen the ones that the bit extra was spent on like Mascherano and Torres being their standout signings.

Alonso was 12 million, Agger was 5 million, Reina only 6 million. Lucas was cheap as well.

brevity · 30-04-2015 11:44AM

City is an obvious destination for Klopp but aren't City under a bit of pressure with regard to home grown players and FFP? Or did i make that up? Will he have to sell to buy?

marklazarcovic · 30-04-2015 06:34PM

bayern,pep to city

Rayne Wooney · 18-05-2015 03:46PM

Looks like he's off to Fenerbahce

Would love to know his reasoning, it's not much of a test of his managerial abilities. Battling it out with Gala for the league and then being even more of an underdog than Dortmund in the CL (I know they aren't in it next season)

ronjo · 18-05-2015 03:50PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Looks like he's off to Fenerbahce

Would love to know his reasoning, it's not much of a test of his managerial abilities. Battling it out with Gala for the league and then being even more of an underdog than Dortmund in the CL (I know they aren't in it next season)

And then in 2 years over to the Emirates hopefully

tastyt · 18-05-2015 03:51PM

Very strange move. Although when he was linked with west Ham and everybody was laughing a lot of reports said that klopp preferred a " project " like Dortmund was . That he wants a club he can fully be in charge of from the roots up and put his identity on. Fair enough I suppose but I'd prefer if he had the balls now to take a top job and really test himself against the peps and Mourinhos of the world.

You might say it's the easy option, if he fails he can always say " what Was I supposed to do with fenerbache after all ?"

Talib Fiasco · 18-05-2015 03:51PM

What a waste. The Madrid and city jobs must have not been available to him as he once may have thought.

18-05-2015 03:52PM

Fair play to him.

Picked one nobody expected.

IncognitoMan · 18-05-2015 03:53PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Looks like he's off to Fenerbahce

Would love to know his reasoning, it's not much of a test of his managerial abilities. Battling it out with Gala for the league and then being even more of an underdog than Dortmund in the CL (I know they aren't in it next season)

What a waste.

Edit: already been said. Surely he had better job offers on the table than Fenerbahce

Jurgen Klopp: Where next?

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