GGG vs Martin Murray

efb · 21-02-2015 11:53PM

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

Not if I was a Lee fan, Murray stops him.

That said this was am aging fight, may never be the same.

Murray deserves a chance at a belt

DylanAFC · 21-02-2015 11:53PM

GGG is a machine. No wonder nobody wants to fight him.

efb · 21-02-2015 11:54PM

DylanAFC wrote: »

GGG is a machine. No wonder nobody wants to fight him.

Yes. What weight is Ward at?

supersean1999 · 21-02-2015 11:54PM

efb wrote: »

Murray deserves a chance at a belt

He has had 3. You mean he deserves a soft shot at a belt

megadodge · 21-02-2015 11:54PM

I've respected Martin Murray for a long time, but he has gone up in my estimation tonight. Tremendous chin and heart.

The fact that Golovkin was able to so easily dominate such an all-round tough guy like Murray speaks volumes for his ability.

efb · 21-02-2015 11:55PM

supersean1999 wrote: »

He has had 3. You mean he deserves a soft shot at a belt

Yes. I said chance. He was robbed before

efb · 21-02-2015 11:56PM

megadodge wrote: »

I've respected Martin Murray for a long time, but he has gone up in my estimation tonight. Tremendous chin and heart.

The fact that Golovkin was able to so easily dominate such an all-round tough guy like Murray speaks volumes for his ability.

100% agreed

Deiseboy01 · 21-02-2015 11:56PM

efb wrote: »

Murray deserves a chance at a belt

Oh agreed, he's had three now and arguably won two of them so no issues with him going again post this loss.

I think this beating may knock him back significantly though. If not physically then mentally. He could look himself in the mirror post the Strum and Martinez fights and say I'm the better man, I got cheated, cant do that this time. The knowledge that he's second best may reduce him a lot.

supersean1999 · 21-02-2015 11:59PM

efb wrote: »

Yes. I said chance. He was robbed before

Imo he would of beaten every other mw tonight. Ggg is just v v good.

Strongbow10 · 22-02-2015 12:02AM

pac_man wrote: »

The more i watch GGG, the more confident i am of Ward beating him. He's the only one including the super middleweights that would be favourite against GGG. He's hittable and i dont think his workrate is consistent. Of course im talking about the Ward of two years ago.

Ah his workrate is impressive in fairness. I just think Ward would tie him up at key times, and use his additional size and counter punching to force him onto the back foot.

I want to see how GGG works off the back foot. He is very easy to hit when coming forward the bigger guys would test his chin obviously

GGG v Froch is a fight for the fans

HigginsJ · 22-02-2015 12:02AM

Very classy words from Martin Murray.

DylanAFC · 22-02-2015 12:04AM

efb wrote: »

Yes. What weight is Ward at?

Ward is at super-middleweight. Hopefully those two will fight each other in the next year or two. Great fight we have there.

supersean1999 · 22-02-2015 12:04AM

pac_man wrote: »

The more i watch GGG, the more confident i am of Ward beating him. He's the only one including the super middleweights that would be favourite against GGG. He's hittable and i dont think his workrate is consistent. Of course im talking about the Ward of two years ago.

Id agree ward of 2 years ago beats him. But to me after 2-3 rounds ggg knew murray could not hurt him. And he walked through him. He seems to choose to take shots because he knows he can take them if that makes sense

Deiseboy01 · 22-02-2015 12:07AM

pac_man wrote: »

The more i watch GGG, the more confident i am of Ward beating him. He's the only one including the super middleweights that would be favourite against GGG. He's hittable and i dont think his workrate is consistent. Of course im talking about the Ward of two years ago.

Does Ward have the power to deter him though?

supersean1999 · 22-02-2015 12:08AM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Ah his workrate is impressive in fairness. I just think Ward would tie him up at key times, and use his additional size and counter punching to force him onto the back foot.

I want to see how GGG works off the back foot. He is very easy to hit when coming forward the bigger guys would test his chin obviously

GGG v Froch is a fight for the fans

Froch would end up on his bum. The near 12 month lay off wont do him any good. I could picture ggg nailing him at will.

efb · 22-02-2015 12:10AM

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efb · 22-02-2015 12:12AM

pac_man wrote: »

The more i watch GGG, the more confident i am of Ward beating him. He's the only one including the super middleweights that would be favourite against GGG. He's hittable and i dont think his workrate is consistent. Of course im talking about the Ward of two years ago.

I Politely disagree. I think GGG would be bigger and stronger and hit harder, and he had a super chin

efb · 22-02-2015 12:13AM

I don't think Frotch is in the same league tbf, end up like Murray

efb · 22-02-2015 12:14AM

pac_man wrote: »

I think Ward has the strength to frustrate him.

But GGG would be stronger at SM

MD1990 · 22-02-2015 12:14AM

pac_man wrote: »

The more i watch GGG, the more confident i am of Ward beating him. He's the only one including the super middleweights that would be favourite against GGG. He's hittable and i dont think his workrate is consistent. Of course im talking about the Ward of two years ago.

He threw over 800 punches & I think a part of him gettiing hit was that Murray has no power.

Strongbow10 · 22-02-2015 12:16AM

efb wrote: »

I don't think Frotch is in the same league tbf, end up like Murray

Not a huge Froch fan but he has beaten all comers at his weight with the exception of Ward.

Its a test for GGG fighting a top calibre SMW

Strongbow10 · 22-02-2015 12:18AM

efb wrote: »

I Politely disagree. I think GGG would be bigger and stronger and hit harder, and he had a super chin

possibly but we don't know for sure. Golovkin isn't a big middleweight (he could still make 154lbs handy enough) and Ward is a natural light heavy campaigning at SMW

efb · 22-02-2015 12:18AM

MD1990 wrote: »

He threw over 800 punches & I think a part of him gettiing hit was that Murray has no power.

Murray threw one of two that works rock most fighters

supersean1999 · 22-02-2015 12:24AM

efb wrote: »

Murray threw one of two that works rock most fighters

Thats true. But ggg can take a better punch than andy lee. Murray had no power to bother ggg and he knew that pretty early.

Henno30 · 22-02-2015 12:39AM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Not a huge Froch fan but he has beaten all comers at his weight with the exception of Ward.

Its a test for GGG fighting a top calibre SMW

I'm not convinced Golovkin would really take it to the top SMWs.

His chin is top notch and none of the current batch of middleweights can get his respect. But against someone like Froch it could be very different.

Golovkin's a good boxer with creative offence, but his primary advantages are his chin and his power. For fighters like him moving up in weight is always a bigger risk.

efb · 22-02-2015 08:50AM

pac_man wrote: »

I dont like when one of your attributes are that you can take a punch. Surely, it would be more important not to get hit.

You don't want to be a punch bag, but equally you are likely to get caught at some point, you need to be able to deal with it

supersean1999 · 22-02-2015 12:03PM

How many fighters would love to have a good chin, amir Khan would be unbeatable, as far as I see ggg is ruthless when he knows he can't be hurt, I'd imagine if he had to be more elusive he could be, or take less risks against a bigger hitter,

Henno30 · 22-02-2015 01:56PM

supersean1999 wrote: »

How many fighters would love to have a good chin, amir Khan would be unbeatable, as far as I see ggg is ruthless when he knows he can't be hurt, I'd imagine if he had to be more elusive he could be, or take less risks against a bigger hitter,

Well his amateur pedigree would suggest that he can be, but I think he might struggle to fight that way again after steamrolling opponents for the last 10 years.

Murray impressed me last night. Did a lot right, but just didn't have the tools to get the job done. Golovkin-Ward is a fascinating fight. I think Ward has the right style to beat him, but Golovkin would take him places he hasn't yet been.

efb · 22-02-2015 03:09PM

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Murray combo

efb · 22-02-2015 03:10PM

http://itsh.bo/1GfF8bY

GGG hook

GGG vs Martin Murray

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