Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Downing and Carroll have a purple patch and people pause for thought? Seriously grab hold and throttle yourselves. Downing is spineless and when Carroll manages to be fit he's consistently fücking brutal. Singularly the worst transfer Liverpool have been involved in (though no fault of the player.) And yeah Lambert and Carroll aren't that different and I'm no fan of the Lambert acquisition either.

Should have only loaned shelvey too. Might aswell go for the full house while we're at it.

pmy.murphy wrote: »

I see a few rumours are surfacing of jack butland as a potential goalkeeping option come January

I'd rather sign a player with experience than another with potential. The Russian league should be ripe for the picking given the financial circumstances of the country. Igor Akinfeev is only 28 and has been playing first team football for over 10 years. He has a wealth of experience with CSKA and has won everything he is likely to at the club so might be keen on a move.

To be honest I'm kind of dreading the transfer window because I don't trust those involved in the transfer decisions not to screw it up. In the summer they were quite happy to offload the players with experience (Agger, Toure to Trabzonspor, Lucas to Napoli). Agger is gone but the moves for the other two fell through and they are partly responsible for stabilising the team performances. The rumours regarding Lucas being sold started again recently - If he goes then we need another defensively capable midfielder. The club was strongly linked with Yann M'Villa but instead signed the player with potential in Emre Can who has barely featured.

We need leaders and experienced players on the pitch and we're short on both, the transfer policy suggests we're not likely to sign any either. This will lead to the players increasingly looking to Gerrard to provide the experience and leadership which will only cement his place in the first team. If the club transfer policy is to offload the experienced players, then they may as well bite the bullet and jettison Gerrard in the process. Signing a player who could replace him now rather than potentially replace him in a few years would be the smart move. But players of that calibre are hard to come by and may need an extra financial incentive which goes against the transfer policy.

Will we sign a striker in January? The tabloids have us offering £50M for Benzema, which is the same pie in the sky stuff as the supposed moves for Falcao, Cavani and Lavezzi in the summer. From the way Rodgers spoke yesterday we are pining our hopes on Sturridge returning from injury with the form he showed last season.

Gits_bone wrote: »

Is that why Balotelli and Lambert were signed?

I don't see sense in either of those two additions.

Talisman wrote: »

I'd rather sign a player with experience than another with potential. The Russian league should be ripe for the picking given the financial circumstances of the country

I agree totally with this the likes of Witsel, Gracia, Yarmolenko, Konoplyanka, Garay are all getable if we can offer them decent wages.

Carroll is fit for the first time in 2 years and downing is having a purple patch. Those are the facts and posters are using this as a stick to yet again beat the manager and the transfer policy.

They are 1st and 2nd our two worst signings ever. The fees paid for such one dimensional players was ridiculous.

cjmc wrote: »

I dont think anyone actually believes that dumping Downing and especially Carroll
were bad moves, likewise with Adam and Shelvey .
Do they ???

Shelvey would be a squad player who we could certainly have made use of, he's only 22 and by no means the finished article. As an advanced midfielder he's definitely a better option than Joe Allen.

Gits_bone wrote: »

Is that why Balotelli and Lambert were signed?

Lambert for a couple of million to offer a plan B (which sadly) became plan A for a handful of games v Andy Carroll for a then £35m. Closer to £45m now since the last tv deal.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I agree totally with this the likes of Witsel, Gracia, Yarmolenko, Konoplyanka, Garay are all getable if we can offer them decent wages.

From the snippets I've seen Witsel is one who could be a big addition.
Think he signed for around €60k, could be £. If he's still on that deal its by no means above Liverpool's wage ceiling.

Unfortunately its not a deal I see even coming close to happening. Mores the pity.

Lets just re-sign everyone that was sold on during the last 5 years.

Thank God Alberto and Aspas are only out on loan.

Hidalgo wrote: »

From the snippets I've seen Witsel is one who could be a big addition.
Think he signed for around €60k, could be £. If he's still on that deal its by no means above Liverpool's wage ceiling.

Unfortunately its not a deal I see even coming close to happening. Mores the pity.

Witsel is a beast of a player and having him in front of the defence would be amazing. The defenders would know the are protected by a real player.

Thing is if he is avaiable it would a bidding war we wouldn't be anywhere near winning.

That is why I'd love to see the club go in early for players like him.

cjmc wrote: »

He would WHEN hes on his game and not sent off
I was a fan of his but he blows hot and very cold from what ive seen

He's far better than Allen who is on far higher wages & cost £15m transfer fee & a £2m signing on fee

cjmc wrote: »

Probably

Probably not.

Chris Bascombe reporting that Sakho and Enrique will be sold next summer if the right offer comes in

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11309446/Liverpool-FC-news-Twelve-defenders-may-face-Anfield-exit-in-overhaul.html