Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

I'm pretty sure they were chosen by manatees pushing balls with random names and fees on them, around a tank.

Mumha wrote: »

And as anyone would know, manatees are crap on defence. The manatees have to go.

And even worse on holding midfielders

NukaCola wrote: »

Moreno, Lallana, Can, Lambert, Lovren, Markovic, Manquillo.

Bought for a combined 90m (approx). All fit and ready for selection. 2 started. 1 got 8 minutes.
75m worth of players did not play a single minute and this is becoming a trend.
That is absolutely criminal for a club with supposedly limited resources.

^^^ 100%. It's totally nuts to be playing Johnson and Stevie game in game out whilst young talented (and expensive) players are sitting on the bench.

BenEadir wrote: »

^^^ 100%. It's totally nuts to be playing Johnson and Stevie game in game out whilst young talented (and expensive) players are sitting on the bench.

Its nuts to be playing our two most experienced players in an away tie in europe when we needed to get something out of the game?
Was Johnson really that bad last night? You'd swear he'd been taken to the cleaners the way some people have being going on about him. Sure he's played poorly in numerous previous games but last night wasnt one of them.
So too Gerarrd... I thought himself, Lambert and Sterling linked up fairly well myself. Nothing perfect but signs of a bit of link up play at least.

Turtyturd wrote: »

No I mean if they come and play with 10 on the edge of their box, like Chelsea and TSHOWCGCPACLSF are renowned for.

Don't see where the confusion came from.

Yea 30 Premier league goals 14 Champions League goals so far this season, yea this playing with 10 on the edge of the box is very exciting stuff.

rob316 wrote: »

Goalkeeper and striker are no.1 priority in January, if we successfully fill those positions we can still have a good season with regards Top 4 and maybe win a domestic cup.

Who am I kidding though, we will get a keeper in on loan who is worse than the current and wait for Sturridge to regain fitness only for him to break down after a few games

Cech and Martinez if the Newspapers are to be believed (Which they arent)

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Johnson. He done the usual of playing a few perfect passes. And as usual they were to the opposition players feet.
The second goal would be a toss up between himself and Allen. Johnson kind of just completely misjudged the flight of the ball took a few steps forward and jumped straight up to head the ball. But if he had of not taken those few steps forward, stuck with his man and attacked the ball, it would be a different story.
Allen who was covering the post for some reason had started to push out once the corner was taken rather than stay on the line for any sort of clearance.

No blame to be attributed then to Moreno on the front post for getting the wrong side of his player and turning his back when 'attacking' the ball. Or for Toure letting the goal scorer -who he was marking- run off behind his back? I dont see what Johnson could have done really, he actually steps back towards his own goal and moved into a position where he thought the danger might be, and was unable to reach the ball. That happens. Stopping the flick on and sticking with your men are things that can and should be worked on.

J Mysterio wrote: »

Last night, playing in his position (or slightly forward of his old position), he was good. He passed it well in the final third, kept the ball, assited Sterlings goal and almost scored on two occasions.

A. Sterling didn't score last night

B. If almost scoring a couple is enough to justify a place in the team Borini should be a nailed on starter!!

J Mysterio wrote: »

He definitely has a role going forward but that is not starting every game and not finishing every game he starts.

If his future role is at the front of the diamond (whether starting for 60 minutes or coming on for 30 minutes) are we really saying he's the best option we have there? Better than either Sterling, Coutinho or Lallana?

Turtyturd wrote: »

That's great, do it for 10 seasons and they might become renowned for it.

Being a Chelsea supporter and us having no history and all, I am not as good at history as some perhaps you could enlighten me who has maintained that for 10 years in the Premier League era?

People should keep obsessing over Gerrard and Johnson if it makes them feel better I guess. It's therapy. It isn't the root cause of the issues though, no sir.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

People should keep obsessing over Gerrard and Johnson if it makes them feel better I guess. It's therapy. It isn't the root cause of the issues though, no sir.

Maybe because Johnson jogs back all the time & doesn't give a fuk. Gerrard is 34 & needs to be rotated more imo which is the managers fault.

BenEadir wrote: »

B. If almost scoring a couple is enough to justify a place in the team Borini should be a nailed on starter!!

But Borini doesn't even 'almost' score

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

People should keep obsessing over Gerrard and Johnson if it makes them feel better I guess. It's therapy. It isn't the root cause of the issues though, no sir.

Root cause? No, it is not singularly the root cause of the current mess we're in but then there is no single cause but continuously playing players who are under performing when the club have invested heavily in other players who can play that position must undermine the motivation of the players being left out. How must Lallana be feeling? £25m and a big contract in his absolute prime playing the AM role for England and he can't get ahead of an ageing 34 year old?

If you don't think you're going to get selected on Saturday because some sacred cows are nailed on starters it has to effect how you train and if a few players are not giving it their all in training it's contagious. I'm a big hurling fan also and the one thing you have to admire about Brian Cody over all the years is that he stayed true to the promise he made that those who are training best and showing well in practice matches will start. He never had any problem dropping the likes of Tommy Walsh and even Henry Shefflin to give others a chance to show what they could do.

Fergie, much as I hate him, also never shirked away from making tough decisoins. Remember when he dropped Jim Leighton in 1990 for the FA cup final replay?? No one could believe it but it showed that he was prepared to make bold choices and it sent two clear messages to his players:-

1. No one was undroppable
2. If you train hard and are showing form in training you'll start.

BR needs to take a few leaves out of Cody and Ferguson's book!!

Mr Alan wrote: »

I'm quite shocked at how quickly many have totally turned against the manager they proclaimed as the messiah not too long ago.

Particularly when many of the people did nothing but give abuse to the likes of myself & Llyod for not showing blind faith and support.

To be honest there is a lot who are annoyed with BR and rightly so. I would imagine he still has the majority of backing even on here though.

I haven't turned against him at all, I still think he is talented and can turn us around but my main concern at this stage is his seemingly inability to adapt his tactics. He has plenty of options and personnel to make a better game plan, I am quite frankly shocked at how predictable he has made us this season.

BR has to adapt like he has before, but its infuriating because he seems clueless or unable.

We are fast approaching a line now where we will no longer be contention to have a successful season ie Top4, qualify for the knockout rounds of CL, cup run etc, unless we win games.