Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

klose · 05-11-2014 10:55AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Some people need to stop going overboard about last nights performance.

We were better than we have been but still not very good. And let's be honest, Real didn't get out of first gear.

Nor did they at home but they defeated us by more, dont think anyone is happy with last night but its extremely refreshing to see rodgers switch things up and us not look like a team full of 11 year olds trying to defend.

Saw tony evens tweet this, god he is so bitter it seems.

https://twitter.com/tonyevanstimes/status/529754830601199616

Harry Palmr · 05-11-2014 11:00AM

Gary Linekar, Tony Evans, - its like Francis Bacon being critiqued by Rolf Harris.

PhiloCypher · 05-11-2014 11:11AM

Hidalgo wrote: »

I think part of the problem is the ball isn't released quickly enough when the FBs motor forward.
There was a prime example v Newcastle. Moreno made a run forward and was looking for a pass between Newcastle right fb and cb. By the time Allen released the pass Moreno had strayed offside.
Those passes need to be released from the trigger without hesitation.

Agreed I said as much in the match thread.

Most frustrating thing for me, tho understandable given how lethal Madrid are on the counter, is the amount of times we've broken(ok twice :rollseyes: ) with a man free in space but the ball has been played square or backwards giving Madrid time to get set defensively. Nobody is betting on themselves to make that pass or that our defense will dig them out if its cut out and Madrid Counter.

Stargate · 05-11-2014 11:14AM

kfallon wrote: »

This pic from last year was my favourite celebration pic and tbh summed up our season too

Have to say for me that photo and this one below is the best of the VERY best .
Just look at the face on Suarez and Danny being all cool lol

;)

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joe123 · 05-11-2014 11:18AM

We looked decent when in possession in or around or own half. The problem was we looked toothless going forward.

There was once or twice in the game, think it was when Manquillo had the ball on the right and Borini was unmarked back post, Manquillo doesnt see it and passes it sidewards.

Another stage, Markovich was free when Borini had the ball and the pass never came.

I can't see us scoring against Chelsea Saturday so I would assume Rodgers may be going for the same sort of strategy again. (not being able to score but learning to defend)

Mumha · 05-11-2014 11:30AM

F*** the media and their obvious agenda to get at Rodgers. I have no problem with the team Rodgers picked, in the circumstances. I'd have had a problem if the team from last weekend was played.

I hope Rodgers takes note of those who made a difference last night, and plays them against Chelsea.

donfers · 05-11-2014 11:32AM

team against chelsea should be

mig
johnson skrtel toure moreno

lucas

gerrard henderson

coutinho

sterling borini

Gbear · 05-11-2014 11:38AM

donfers wrote: »

team against chelsea should be

mig
johnson skrtel toure moreno

lucas

gerrard henderson

coutinho

sterling borini

Johnson should never play for this club again.

Boom_Bap · 05-11-2014 11:41AM

donfers wrote: »

team against chelsea should be

mig
johnson skrtel toure moreno

lucas

gerrard henderson

coutinho

sterling borini

Mario on the bench to throw bags of his pet pigs poop + fireworks into the Chelsea technical area.

Harry Palmr · 05-11-2014 11:42AM

Gbear wrote: »

Johnson should never play for this club again.

Only on the left in a League Cup tie - that's his level.

Mig
Manquillo--Kolo-Lovren--Moreno

Lucas

Hendo--Can

Coutinho

Balo

Borini

Sturridge to come on and score winner in 87th 93rd minute

benny79 · 05-11-2014 11:43AM

you serious! no way would I play johnson, and gerrard should be dropped as well but that won't happen make no impact coming on if anything the game slowed down! On a side note seen Flanagan running out the tunnel with team he must be nearly back anyone know?

MR NINE · 05-11-2014 11:51AM

Im glad toure put in a good performance, im all for the idea of starting him for a few games. His knowledge and experience could be very useful for us at the moment as we try and steady the ship defensively, similar to the impact carra had a couple years ago when he broke back into the first team for the tail end of rodgers first campaign. Id like to see lovren and sakho get a run of games at some stage as well, im starting to come around to daithis idea that skrtel is the weak link.

Im surprised to see borini taking criticism from so many for his lack of goals. Over the past week there was a lot of people calling for him to be involved more, one blank against real madrid should hardly change things. He put in a very good shift, and never really had a decent opportunity to score.

I thought gerrard was fairly poor when he came on, he was trying to force it too much and kept giving the ball away. Fair enough we were losing and needed to make something happen, but he was trying to pick out passes that werent on and lacked composure. I think his time as a main stay in the centre of midfield should be coming to an end. He can still play an important role for us. Id like to see him used off the bench as a more attacking option for us towards the end of games.

donfers · 05-11-2014 11:54AM

Gbear wrote: »

Johnson should never play for this club again.

He has been poor but I am not convinced by Manquillo - we got destroyed down his flank last night, in addition to that he can be caught out of position and going forward he seems to lack a bit of confidence/aggression. The truth is our best right back at the moment is Flanagan and even he has his limitations.

kfallon · 05-11-2014 12:00PM

Manquillo makes Chris Morris look like Beckham in the crossing dept

Nerdlingr · 05-11-2014 12:02PM

I think Manquillo has done extremely well since he's come in. Certainly he's exceeded my expectations. I dont think he got destroyed last night at all. As good a game as Marcelo had, he got maybe two crosses in as a result of beating manquillo on the outside, one for the goal and the second another chance for Benzema. Manquillo acquitted himself really well, Isco was forced inside, Ronaldo drifting left was kept quiet. He made some great interceptions and battled for everything. He's 20 years old playing maybe his 20th senior professional game at most and didnt look out of place at this (CL) level.

donfers · 05-11-2014 12:07PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

I think Manquillo has done extremely well since he's come in. Certainly he's exceeded my expectations. I dont think he got destroyed last night at all. As good a game as Marcelo had, he got maybe two crosses in as a result of beating manquillo on the outside, one for the goal and the second another chance for Benzema. Manquillo acquitted himself really well, Isco was forced inside, Ronaldo drifting left was kept quiet. He made some great interceptions and battled for everything. He's 20 years old playing maybe his 20th senior professional game at most and didnt look out of place at this (CL) level.

He reminds me a bit of Insua - decent on the ball, solid enough but perhaps just a shade off the level required both offensively and defensively. I hope I'm wrong and he has plenty of time to prove me wrong.

NEDDURC · 05-11-2014 12:10PM

For Chelsea I'd go with:

Mig
Manquillo--Kolo-Lovren--Moreno

Lucas -- Allen

Hendo-
-Sterling

Lallana

Borini

Agent Coulson · 05-11-2014 12:11PM

I think Mignolet had a good game and I think it helped that there was a leader in the CB role in front of him in Toure telling everyone what to do.

I know people will say he should have caught this that and the other but how many keepers these days catch a ball most punch and in fairness to Mignolet last night his punches knocked the ball well away from the goal.

Having a CB leader in Toure showed what has been missing from the defence.

I loved seeing him shouting and bollixing players.

SlickRic · 05-11-2014 12:11PM

if last night was indeed an opportunity for players to stake their claim, then we should see the following on Saturday.

Toure partnering Skrtel.
Lucas in DM, with Can and Hendo alongside him.
If Gerrard plays, then it's further forward.
Borini should get some game time.

if we see the team that played against Newcastle, i'll be fuming.

Nerdlingr · 05-11-2014 12:13PM

donfers wrote: »

He reminds me a bit of Insua - decent on the ball, solid enough but perhaps just a shade off the level required both offensively and defensively. I hope I'm wrong and he has plenty of time to prove me wrong.

I just think the lad has had very little game time at this level and from what I've seen of him so far he's impressed. Seems solid enough and keeps going for the whole 90. Definitely a better option that our england international 20m right back Glen Johnson.

Luckycharms_74 · 05-11-2014 12:20PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Only on the left in a League Cup tie - that's his level.
Mig
Manquillo--Kolo-Lovren--Moreno
Lucas
Hendo--Can
Coutinho
Balo
Borini

Sturridge to come on and score winner in 87th 93rd minute

I reckon this will be BR team for Sat.

Mig
Manquillo--Kolo-Lovren--Moreno

Gerrard

Hendo--Can
-Coutinho

Lallana

Borini

brevity · 05-11-2014 12:23PM

My go.

Mig

Manquillo--Skrtel-Kolo--Moreno

Lucas----

Can

Hendo

-Sterling

Borini

Balotelli

SlickRic · 05-11-2014 12:30PM

there's no point guessing a team for Saturday and not having Gerrard in it tbh.

joe123 · 05-11-2014 12:34PM

Mig

Johnson--Skrtel-Kolo--Moreno

Gerrard----

Can

Hendo

-Sterling

Coutinho

Borini

Thats as far as I would stretch in terms of Rodgers making changes. Even with that, I wouldnt be suprised to see Lovren back in.

If he does bring Lovren back in, it really will show he rested players rather than dropped.

Borini at this stage deserves to start. I actually think Balotelli is better coming in as an inside forward from the wing, but he would leave whoever is right back completley on his own.

Wouldnt fancy that vs Hazard/Schurle/Willian.

Actually Ive just edited out Allen for Can as I think Rodgers will go for the extra height vs Chelsea. Some tall players on the Chelsea Side.

Pilsbury Doughboy · 05-11-2014 12:46PM

Rodgers is in a tough position now, he was getting slated for fielding a 'League Cup' side last night, now that they did ok everyone wants him to keep some of those players in! So if he goes for the regulars again he will get slated, tough business that managerial lark, when you have so many have-a-go managers out there.

Nerdlingr · 05-11-2014 12:46PM

For what its worth..

Mignolet
Manquillo-Skrtel-Kolo-Moreno

Can

Gerrard

Henderson

Sterling

Lallana

Borini

K-9 · 05-11-2014 12:48PM

Was impressed with Can considering he hasn't had much game time, looked pretty comfortable on the ball and offers something different, willing to run at midfielders.

Ganymede Glow · 05-11-2014 12:51PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

For what its worth..
Mignolet
Manquillo-Skrtel-Kolo-Moreno
Can
Gerrard
Henderson
Sterling
Lallana
Borini

I'd go with that. Though I'd change to

Mignolet
Manquillo----Skrtel----Toure----Moreno

Can

Henderson

Gerrard

----Sterling

Lallana

Borini

MD1990 · 05-11-2014 01:15PM

Moreno has made some mistakes but looks a great signing. I can see him being one of the best LB's in the world in a few years.

rob316 · 05-11-2014 01:16PM

What last night proved to me was maybe Rodgers could do well in Europe. He generally sets up the same but last night was refreshing, if that was the first leg of a knock out with Madrid that would be a decent result going back to Anfield.
A bit more quality up front last night and we could have scalped a result.

For Chelsea I really hope Rodgers takes some of the performances into account when selecting the team. I don't think Gerrard should start, and he has to go two up top. Im still hoping Sturridge will make it, huge player for us.
Toure to start, give Lovren something to think about with his **** performances.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

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