Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

OwaynOTT · 05-11-2014 01:05AM

billymitchell wrote: »

Missed the game because of work, but it seems to me(judging by the comments),that we were more solid in defence with a player dedicated to protecting the back four.
Not saying lucas is the answer, but the evidence is beginning to stack up that Gerard isnt either

We conceded like 30 chances. Bale hit the crossbar, the unoriginal Ronaldo hadn't his shooting boots on and Mig made some decent saves.
I wouldn't say we looked more solid.
Skrtel is prone to mistakes under any pressure and passes the buck too often.
Lucas gets caught on the ball too often and played some suicide balls tonight.
Moreno let what's his face in behind in twice on crosses from that left back.

Toure for all the (undeserved) flack played well. Best cb performance of a Liverpool cb this season. One mistake against West Brom and people disparage him. Skrtel makes regular errors and gets defended to the hilt by some.

I dont understand why that is.

If Madrid weren't so comfortable in the group, I doubt we'd be seeing the same result.

Chelsea will likely beat us. As long as there is an improved performance I don't mind and that performance leads into some needed wins.
What time is that match on? What channel?

OwaynOTT · 05-11-2014 01:08AM

Gbear wrote: »

Varane is pure, unadulterated sex.

He's looking like an era defining CB.

We should have signed him. Problem solved, Rodgers out! We should at least put in a stupidly high bid that was doomed to fail.
Instead we signed Lovern! :mad:

While we were at it, we should have signed Benzama. Another problem solved!

bur · 05-11-2014 01:31AM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

What time is that match on? What channel?

10am on TG4.

OwaynOTT · 05-11-2014 01:40AM

bur wrote: »

10am on TG4.

I hate early kick offs, at least Micheal Owen won't be commentating. Much obliged smarthole.

shamrock55 · 05-11-2014 01:54AM

I dont care who plays on sat just as long as lovren doesnt

Charlie19 · 05-11-2014 02:28AM

It obvious we're missing some stiff competition at the back.

0byme75341jo28 · 05-11-2014 02:43AM

Toure should start against Chelsea, played very well tonight and against Swansea. Might wake Lovren up a bit as well.

Charlie19 · 05-11-2014 02:45AM

My favourite pic of last season's goal celebrations.

We're not just missing Cissoko.

Charlie19 · 05-11-2014 02:55AM

61 Goals

Its not like we need reminding.

OwaynOTT · 05-11-2014 07:11AM

Charlie19 wrote: »

61 Goals

Its not like we need reminding.

And 14 consecutive top ten singles.

monkey9 · 05-11-2014 07:24AM

shamrock55 wrote: »

I dont care who plays on sat just as long as lovren doesnt

I wouldn't change the defence at all for Saturday.

kingshankly · 05-11-2014 07:28AM

citytillidie wrote: »

How that stands now

Basel pl 3 w 2 l 1 d 0 f 5 a 1 gd +4 pts 6
Liverpool pl 2 w l 1 d 0 f 2 a 2 gd 0 pts 3
Ludogorets pl 3 w 1 l 2 f 2 a 6 gd -4 pts 3

Would be some way to end the group lol

Shows how bad the group is 3 losses in a row 3 points after 4 games and we're still odds on to qualify

kingshankly · 05-11-2014 07:35AM

Team for chelsea for me would be

mig

Manq----skirtel

toure----Moreno
cout

gerrard---bend ----lalanna

ballo

borini

No way should loveran start no way
Allen better coming of the bench
Sterling in horrible form presently everything he does is poison
Has been overused would be good off the bench also

05-11-2014 07:36AM

kingshankly wrote: »

Shows how bad the group is 3 losses in a row 3 points after 4 games and we're still odds on to qualify

Who cares how bad the group is if we get out of it. Not many care how poor we were in the early group games in 2005

smileyj1987 · 05-11-2014 07:52AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Who cares how bad the group is if we get out of it. Not many care how poor we were in the early group games in 2005

The only thing I remember is winning it in 05 and that's it .

kfallon · 05-11-2014 08:01AM

This pic from last year was my favourite celebration pic and tbh summed up our season too

noodler · 05-11-2014 08:29AM

kfallon wrote: »

This pic from last year was my favourite celebration pic and tbh summed up our season too

Christ, how things change so quickly.

kfallon · 05-11-2014 08:29AM

I'd like to see a midfield 3 or Can, Hendo and Allen given a run of games together, think there would be plenty of energy in there if sometimes lacking a little bit of quality in the big games.

The much maligned Touré has to start on Saturday, his display last night was prob the best defensive display from a Liverpool player this calendar year. Be a nice kick up the hole for the likes of Lovren and Sakho anyway.

Then in the attacking areas, any 3 from 4 of Coutinho, Lallana, Sterling and Balotelli. I presume Sturridge won't be risked on Saturday for fear of England calling him up and ruining him again.

noodler · 05-11-2014 08:30AM

Charlie19 wrote: »

61 Goals

Its not like we need reminding.

53 League goals?

20 League assists.

NEDDURC · 05-11-2014 09:18AM

Thought we played much better last night than the first night against RM.

Much more solid in the middle without Gerrard. The only changes I'd make for Saturday would be Henderson for Lucas and Sterling for Markovic to start. The rest all did very well.

We still look abit clueless in attack. We are not using the wings as much as we should. Full back are getting forward but aren't creating overlaps and bursting into the box. They seem to just stop and play it back. Need to take those risks at times and drive into the box from the wings at times. Need to do it in a controlled way though.

05-11-2014 09:55AM

kfallon wrote: »

This pic from last year was my favourite celebration pic and tbh summed up our season too

Right in front of the Toffee fans who look delighted

Mr Alan · 05-11-2014 09:58AM

Some people need to stop going overboard about last nights performance.

We were better than we have been but still not very good. And let's be honest, Real didn't get out of first gear.

05-11-2014 09:59AM

I'd be seriously wary of making too many changes.

People may go after Borini for lack of goals but he gives us something that Ballotelli doesn't and that's pressing from the front line. Tons of energy and great attitude.

He certainly needs a striker beside him but Sturridge is back soon.

Thud · 05-11-2014 10:01AM

Was there contact with Ramos for the ball Borini put in the net? Looked like a dive to me

tok9 · 05-11-2014 10:08AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Some people need to stop going overboard about last nights performance.

We were better than we have been but still not very good. And let's be honest, Real didn't get out of first gear.

Who's going overboard? Posters are generally saying it was a good performance. I don't think anyone is lauding it. We certainly didn't offer enough in attack still.

My biggest concern right now is that DM role. We have 2 players who play in it. Gerrard and Lucas. Gerrard when on song (which hasn't been this season) is great to get an attack going. But Lucas is actually more mobile and a better DM.

We badly need to bring in a player who can do both roles as right now we're a liability with either player imo. People have mentioned Strootman as being ideal. I can't say much as I don't think I've ever seen him but we need someone to fill that role.

tigger123 · 05-11-2014 10:08AM

What's the story with Gerard's contract? Does it run out at the end of the season? Think I heard somewhere that LFC are reluctant to offer him a new one? Does that he mean he could go on a Bosman to someone else?

Dickerty · 05-11-2014 10:10AM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

We should have signed him. Problem solved, Rodgers out! We should at least put in a stupidly high bid that was doomed to fail.
Instead we signed Lovern! :mad:

He is the future of Real's defence, why would they sell to us for any reason?
And why would he come to us?
Let's be real...

OwaynOTT · 05-11-2014 10:42AM

Dickerty wrote: »

He is the future of Real's defence, why would they sell to us for any reason?
And why would he come to us?
Let's be real...

I agree but I recall people saying we should try signing him, just thought I try some of that what we should have done thing.

Hidalgo · 05-11-2014 10:44AM

kfallon wrote: »

I'd like to see a midfield 3 or Can, Hendo and Allen given a run of games together, think there would be plenty of energy in there if sometimes lacking a little bit of quality in the big games.

The much maligned Touré has to start on Saturday, his display last night was prob the best defensive display from a Liverpool player this calendar year. Be a nice kick up the hole for the likes of Lovren and Sakho anyway.

Then in the attacking areas, any 3 from 4 of Coutinho, Lallana, Sterling and Balotelli. I presume Sturridge won't be risked on Saturday for fear of England calling him up and ruining him again.

I'd replace Allen for Lallana if Couthinho is starting further forward.

Hidalgo · 05-11-2014 10:49AM

NEDDURC wrote: »

Thought we played much better last night than the first night against RM.

Much more solid in the middle without Gerrard. The only changes I'd make for Saturday would be Henderson for Lucas and Sterling for Markovic to start. The rest all did very well.

We still look abit clueless in attack. We are not using the wings as much as we should. Full back are getting forward but aren't creating overlaps and bursting into the box. They seem to just stop and play it back. Need to take those risks at times and drive into the box from the wings at times. Need to do it in a controlled way though.

I think part of the problem is the ball isn't released quickly enough when the FBs motor forward.
There was a prime example v Newcastle. Moreno made a run forward and was looking for a pass between Newcastle right fb and cb. By the time Allen released the pass Moreno had strayed offside.
Those passes need to be released from the trigger without hesitation.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

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