Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

The_Kew_Tour · 26-10-2014 07:56PM

fatherted1969 wrote: »

Thought Shaw had his best game (that I've seen) same with Fellaini.

I want Fellaini to be as a success as anybody but he still gave away few sloppy balls. He got stupid yellow for fouling Hazard too after poor pass.

Shaw was OK but at times ran into no mans land IMO.

Robson99 · 26-10-2014 07:56PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Another case where I have no idea what people think his role is meant to be.

What has he done?? F,,k all IMO. Way too slow and lightweight

Cantona's Collars · 26-10-2014 07:58PM

Even LVG is prone to brief moments of faffing.

K4t · 26-10-2014 08:00PM

kryogen wrote: »

Ah right, people are delighted about snatching a point from the jaws of defeat, the result, many people have pointed out, is secondary to the overall performance and the display of character from the team. The play was still too pedestrian at times, but we are getting better

The second half today was more a case of Chelsea snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

A draw is a draw is a draw. But that's all it is imo. There was nothing today that suggests we will kick on from there and go on a run of wins.

secman · 26-10-2014 08:01PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

My United ratings and how I rate players

10 out of this world
9 super duper performance
8 excellent
7 good
6 solid/above average
5 average
4 below average/can do better
3 poor
2 awful
1 my gran would be better
0 my dead gran could do better

DDG 8
Rafa 6
Rojo 6
Smalling 6
Shaw 5
Blind 5.5
Fellaini 6
Mata 3
Januzaj 5
Di Maria 4(by his standards)
RVP 7

FFS kew thats very harsh indeed. According to everyone and their mother Chelsea have the league to lose, we well deserved the draw today. Last season we were getting whooped in these games, second week in a row we played till the death and got late goals, credit where credits due..........

Larry Wildman · 26-10-2014 08:01PM

Will the excessive amount of love for Mata on these pages diminish?

He was toxic today and has been a disastrous signing.

2moreMinutes · 26-10-2014 08:01PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

My United ratings and how I rate players

10 out of this world
9 super duper performance
8 excellent
7 good
6 solid/above average
5 average
4 below average/can do better
3 poor
2 awful
1 my gran would be better
0 my dead gran could do better

DDG 8
Rafa 6
Rojo 6
Smalling 6
Shaw 5
Blind 5.5
Fellaini 6
Mata 3
Januzaj 5
Di Maria 4(by his standards)
RVP 7

If Fellaini is only a 6 and Shaw only a 5, I'm assuming you missed the - in front of Jan's 5.

I'd push Fell up to a 7.5, Shaw to a 7 and take Jan down to a 1.5 purely because while my gran is good, she also has no pace and is constantly slowing the rest of us down.

The Moldy Gowl · 26-10-2014 08:01PM

zerks wrote: »

Even LVG is prone to brief moments of faffing.

What a spoofer

Bleating Lamb · 26-10-2014 08:02PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

My United ratings and how I rate players

10 out of this world
9 super duper performance
8 excellent
7 good
6 solid/above average
5 average
4 below average/can do better
3 poor
2 awful
1 my gran would be better
0 my dead gran could do better

My Ratings- on right of Kews

DDG 8. 8
Rafa 6. 5 Terrible for goal.
Rojo 6. 6
Smalling 6. 6.5
Shaw 5. 5
Blind 5.5. 6.5
Fellaini 6. 6
Mata 3. 3.5
Januzaj 5. 6.5
Di Maria 4(by his standards)5
RVP 7

. 5

Would give RVP 5 for general play,took chance well but was a passenger throughout,didnt lead line well at all,Shaw still looks overweight to me,Rafael is defensively naive and not improving his decision making with age,Blind and Fellaini were solid throughout,Januzai tried hard and goes at players anyway,unlike likes of Valencia,Wilson is a real prospect,his looping header was a fine effort.

The_Kew_Tour · 26-10-2014 08:03PM

2moreMinutes wrote: »

If Fellaini is only a 6 and Shaw only a 5, I'm assuming you missed the - in front of Jan's 5.

I'd push Fell up to a 7.5, Shaw to a 7 and take Jan down to a 1.5 purely because while my gran is good, she also has no pace and is constantly slowing the rest of us down.

Well at least you had balls to give opinion.

Thought Januazj did as well as he could.

Got f all support and tbf was at least trying make something happen. Also gave great pass to RVP in first half.

He served greater purpose when he went more centre.

The Moldy Gowl · 26-10-2014 08:04PM

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

. 5

Would give RVP 5 for general play,took chance well but was a passenger throughout,didnt lead line well at all,Shaw still looks overweight to me,Rafael is defensively naive and not improving his decision making with age,Blind and Fellaini were solid throughout,Januzai tried hard and goes at players anyway,unlike likes of Valencia,Wilson is a real prospect,his looping header was a fine effort.

Shaw is not overweight. Nothing raf could do for the goal.

Nonsense.

26-10-2014 08:04PM

Where was Falcao today, out injured?

madcabbage · 26-10-2014 08:05PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Will the excessive amount of love for Mata on these pages diminish?

He was toxic today and has been a disastrous signing.

I would not go that far. A dip in form but not a disastrous signing! Jesus every player dips at some stage or other.

kryogen · 26-10-2014 08:05PM

K4t wrote: »

The second half today was more a case of Chelsea snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

A draw is a draw is a draw. But that's all it is imo. There was nothing today that suggests we will kick on from there and go on a run of wins.

Matching and in some cases, bettering the best team in the league bar none who according to many were going to destroy us is nothing?

If you want to make statements like the above you could also say United almost snatched defeat from the jaws of victory with the missed opportunities in the first half when we were well on top.

Doesnt really matter, a draw is a fair result, a decent reflection of the game, and for me the will to keep going and not fold, the encouraging performances from some of our more maligned players and a pretty solid defensive display barring a couple of mistakes gives me something to look forward to anyway.

kryogen · 26-10-2014 08:06PM

madcabbage wrote: »

I would not go that far. A dip in form but not a disastrous signing! Jesus every player dips at some stage or other.

Don't waste your time

The Moldy Gowl · 26-10-2014 08:08PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Will the excessive amount of love for Mata on these pages diminish?

He was toxic today and has been a disastrous signing.

What about Fellaini?

2moreMinutes · 26-10-2014 08:08PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Well at least you had balls to give opinion.

Thought Januazj did as well as he could.

Got f all support and tbf was at least trying make something happen. Also gave great pass to RVP in first half.

He served greater purpose when he went more centre.

He gave a good pass to RVP but as someone else mentioned earlier, he hesitates too much before making a decision. RVP is standing with his arms out looking for that pass for at least 1-2 seconds before an makes it which may have made the world of difference.......

beno619 · 26-10-2014 08:09PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Will the excessive amount of love for Mata on these pages diminish?

He was toxic today and has been a disastrous signing.

He was great in the first half but poor in the second, like a few players.

kryogen · 26-10-2014 08:10PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

What about Fellaini?

Fellaini is a disgrace Joe

Worst signing ever,of any team not just United, ever. Wouldn't have that fella cleaning the jacks sure

26-10-2014 08:10PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Will the excessive amount of love for Mata on these pages diminish?

He was toxic today and has been a disastrous signing.

I agree and always have agreed with this

The_Kew_Tour · 26-10-2014 08:11PM

2moreMinutes wrote: »

He gave a good pass to RVP but as someone else mentioned earlier, he hesitates too much before making a decision. RVP is standing with his arms out looking for that pass for at least 1-2 seconds before an makes it which may have made the world of difference.......

Plenty of the passes he did not give were by the line and maybe he felt too risky.

I can see what you mean but when he cuts more centrally he is far more of use.

Larry Wildman · 26-10-2014 08:11PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

What about Fellaini?

A terrible player.

Not United standard.

One swallow does not make a summer.

The Moldy Gowl · 26-10-2014 08:12PM

kryogen wrote: »

Fellaini is a disgrace Joe

Worst signing ever,of any team not just United, ever. Wouldn't have that fella cleaning the jacks sure

Would make a great chimney sweep

KH25 · 26-10-2014 08:12PM

kryogen wrote: »

Fellaini is a disgrace Joe

Worst signing ever,of any team not just United, ever. Wouldn't have that fella cleaning the jacks sure

He needs to be up at the front with the big bushy head on him. Give the crosser something to aim at with the bushy head.

The Moldy Gowl · 26-10-2014 08:13PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

A terrible player.

Not United standard.

One swallow does not make a summer.

So having a great game against Chelsea does nothing? You know like the Fellaini of pre man United.

Come on larry, just admit it.

26-10-2014 08:13PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

A terrible player.

Not United standard.

One swallow does not make a summer.

Sorry Larry but I don't agree with this one, felani is a great player to have. Versetile and made a real difference today

Larry Wildman · 26-10-2014 08:13PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Would make a great chimney sweep

Singing the Dick Van Dyke song from Mary Poppins...

madcabbage · 26-10-2014 08:15PM

Couldn't picture Utd getting anything out of that without Fellani on the pitch to be honest. He did a good job breaking up play around the park.

Cantona's Collars · 26-10-2014 08:16PM

Mr_Red · 26-10-2014 08:19PM

I thought Fellaini was due to fail at the club

Last season disaster like the rest of the team besides DDG

If we had of sold him in the summer It wouldnt have bothered me as he showed nothing last season

This season hes getting better and im delighted for him

But if he gets into a comfort zone then hes not worth shit to us

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