Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

kryogen · 20-10-2014 10:05PM

Rojo looks pretty solid tbh

KH25 · 20-10-2014 10:09PM

I actually enjoyed the match. Cracking finish for West Brom's first, great goal by Fellaini and a very nice finish from Blind. The defence needs work but things are slowly starting to come together.

Ordinary man · 20-10-2014 10:11PM

Any word on di maria? Was he injured?

Pro. F · 20-10-2014 10:11PM

Jones had to push up for the play that led to their second goal. There was a big hole in midfield, somebody had to step into it and it was in front of Jones so he was the man to do it. The problem was Rojo not marking Berahino on the cover behind Jones.

The_Kew_Tour · 20-10-2014 10:11PM

Di Maria crossing was a joy to watch. Especially first half. He deserved some player on end of coyple . they generally got worse in 2nd half but can't fault him. His pass to RVP in first half was a beauty too.

20-10-2014 10:13PM

KH25 wrote: »

I actually enjoyed the match. Cracking finish for West Brom's first, great goal by Fellaini and a very nice finish from Blind. The defence needs work but things are slowly starting to come together.

I said the same to my friend earlier, he's an Arsenal supporter and he agreed that there's very a gradual progress showing. If we sort out our defence, get settled, keep people of the injury table etc.. I think we'll be gelling nicely just after Christmas.

Blatter · 20-10-2014 10:14PM

Did any reporter ask LVG what the issue with Di Maria is and how serious it is?

It's absolutely vital that he's fit over the next few weeks. He's largely carrying the team from an attacking POV at the moment.

bucketybuck · 20-10-2014 10:19PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

Moyes preformed far, far worse, was showing far, far less, got beaten by those teams and still got nearly the entire year. LVG is going nowhere anytime soon tbh.

I never said that he was going anywhere, just that he is getting an easy ride of it from most quarters. Its been a shocking start and I just wonder how long before the excuse of new players needing to settle starts to wear thin.

Hidalgo · 20-10-2014 10:28PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I never said that he was going anywhere, just that he is getting an easy ride of it from most quarters. Its been a shocking start and I just wonder how long before the excuse of new players needing to settle starts to wear thin.

I would say if there isn't an upswing in results by Christmas the rumblings will begin in earnest.
No way there'll be a change of manager though imo.

Whatever about Chelsea, Aguero could have some serious change in the channel between Rojo and Shaw. Its natural they'll be shaky and inconsistent for the next while as they try and build a partnership.

Lord TSC · 20-10-2014 10:41PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I never said that he was going anywhere, just that he is getting an easy ride of it from most quarters. Its been a shocking start and I just wonder how long before the excuse of new players needing to settle starts to wear thin.

To be honest, I wasn't addressing you. Think it was aimed at Irishfeen when talking about any notions of LVG going anywhere.

Regardless, it's been a shocking start in terms of our points total but I see plenty more to be optimistic about. Plenty, myself included, said we'd have backed Moyes longer last year if there was something to attach hope to. However, with Moyes, it wasn't just results which got worse and worse as the season went on, it was poor transfer windows, it was poor PR abilities, it was poor substitutions, poor tactics, poor performances on the pitch and zero signs of improvement anywhere.

LVG's results on paper don't look great, but he's had a spectacular transfer window, the performances (results aside) have shown far more promise, and it's clear that, as a manager, he's not as inept as Moyes was. He's had an easier ride than Moyes because he's not been failing as spectacularly (though it shouldn't go unnoticed that LVG has a far lower bar too, which helps him).

At the very earliest, LVG will be going nowhere until European spots are out of the equation; Moyes was given that long with far worse showings, so it would be utterly disgraceful not to give LVG at least the same amount of time.

advertsfox · 20-10-2014 10:42PM

Well I for one am glad to see we played the full 90.

Bring on Chelsea (with Falcao and Fellaini starts).

Paul Tergat · 20-10-2014 10:49PM

Done with match threads. Way too much trolling and nothing being done about it

niallo27 · 20-10-2014 10:49PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Di Maria crossing was a joy to watch. Especially first half. He deserved some player on end of coyple . they generally got worse in 2nd half but can't fault him. His pass to RVP in first half was a beauty too.

His corner kick taking is incredible. He swings the ball in with so much spin on it.

Son Of A Vidic · 20-10-2014 10:54PM

Improvement will come. Right now, I'm just glad to see United showing some fight again and coming from behind like United of old. Certainly makes a change on last season.

kryogen · 20-10-2014 10:55PM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Done with match threads. Way too much trolling and nothing being done about it

The time to parachute out when things are going wrong is at full time at the very latest and don't even stick your head back in! They are a pain in the hole at the best of times and some of the worst and I suppose most difficult threads to mod.

Paul Tergat · 20-10-2014 11:01PM

kryogen wrote: »

The time to parachute out when things are going wrong is at full time at the very latest and don't even stick your head back in! They are a pain in the hole at the best of times and some of the worst and I suppose most difficult threads to mod.

It usually begins either just before the match or during the first while.

It's clear what people are at and the dont be a dick rule needs to be enforced way more.

ScummyMan · 20-10-2014 11:09PM

The over-the-top criticism of Januzaj is baffling. There was a run of games last season when he was the only positive note. He's 19 years old starting his first match of the year, cut him some slack FFS.

Wingers are frustrating by nature, anyone remember Ronaldos early years? Even tonight when things didn't go well he was trying to be positive, trying to attack the defence. Mata was far worse, but he seems to be bizarrely escaping criticism because he's a likeable guy. Jesus give Adnan a chance, there's far more serious things to be worrying about.

MR NINE · 20-10-2014 11:15PM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

It usually begins either just before the match or during the first while.

It's clear what people are at and the dont be a dick rule needs to be enforced way more.

The thing with match threads is its the same handful of utd fans doing it in liverpool threads and vice versa. One group does it in retaliation to other etc so they are effectively doing it to themselves. Match threads are a complete waste of time, with the possible exception of a bit of pre match discussion. Other than that its just people posting "yesssss", "get in" and "ffs" depending on what has happened and how it affects the team they support.

niallo27 · 20-10-2014 11:28PM

It doesn't help that BOTH set of supporters find it nearly impossible take to any criticism of their teams without thinking it's trolling.

kryogen · 20-10-2014 11:31PM

niallo27 wrote: »

It doesn't help that BOTH set of supporters find it nearly impossible take to any criticism of their teams without thinking it's trolling.

Not true, there are posters on both sides of that particular divide that can actually discuss things reasonably.

niallo27 · 20-10-2014 11:37PM

kryogen wrote: »

Not true, there are posters on both sides of that particular divide that can actually discuss things reasonably.

Not many though. I mean I was accused of baiting tonight because I said utd's first goal could have a been a free kick the other way. It made no sense. Utd scored. Who was I baiting.

The Moldy Gowl · 20-10-2014 11:40PM

Once ye don't take them seriously they are good fun.

Just go with the troll.

kryogen · 20-10-2014 11:49PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Not many though. I mean I was accused of baiting tonight because I said utd's first goal could have a been a free kick the other way. It made no sense. Utd scored. Who was I baiting.

Didn't see the comment or anything, didn't pay any attention to the match thread but I think I did post in it a couple of times in the second half? Can't say I read much of it though!

Depending on what you said I suppose it could have been interpreted as just being a bitter rival trying to "ruin the buzz"

for the most part I think I have a pretty good tolerance for the opposition trolls, its the "united fan" trolls that seem to get under my skin.

JaMarcusHustle · 21-10-2014 12:02AM

You're alright niallo, you don't bother me. And anytime you do, I just remind you that you pretended to be a girl here and in other forums for attention, and that usually shuts you up pretty quickly.

It's the people we don't have dirt on that are the real problem.

kryogen · 21-10-2014 12:17AM

lol did that actually happen?

2moreMinutes · 21-10-2014 12:32AM

ScummyMan wrote: »

The over-the-top criticism of Januzaj is baffling. There was a run of games last season when he was the only positive note. He's 19 years old starting his first match of the year, cut him some slack FFS.

Wingers are frustrating by nature, anyone remember Ronaldos early years? Even tonight when things didn't go well he was trying to be positive, trying to attack the defence. Mata was far worse, but he seems to be bizarrely escaping criticism because he's a likeable guy. Jesus give Adnan a chance, there's far more serious things to be worrying about.

I wouldn't be into any OTT criticism of Januzaj this season in the same way that I wouldn't have been into the OTT praise of him last season.
He was an ever so slight bright spark in an otherwise fairly gloomy season last year which seems to have made some people place him on too high a pedestal which, based on human nature, will make an equal number of people try to constantly knock him off that pedestal this year.

He's young, he's inconsistent, he's exciting and he's frustrating. Chances are he'll outgrow each of those over the next few years.

Cantona's Collars · 21-10-2014 12:52AM

Karma.

SherlockWatson · 21-10-2014 03:12AM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Done with match threads. Way too much trolling and nothing being done about it

Can't call it that or you'll be the one banned, ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Larry Wildman · 21-10-2014 05:33AM

The delusion in this thread is what gets me.

- Adnan and Ronaldo being mentioned in the same breath. Januzaj is closer to Kieran Richardson than he is to Ronaldo.

- The love for Mata. Mourinho wanting rid was massive "caveat emptor". A bad signing.

An earlier poster was spot on...Rooney would be ridiculed in this thread for producing the kind of dross that RVP and Mata are churning out week in and week out.

Our back four is toxic right now. Fellas at sixes and sevens and all over the shop seems to be our modus operandi. I used to think that Jones was a great white hope but he's looking more and more like a headless chicken.

KH25 · 21-10-2014 07:03AM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

The delusion in this thread is what gets me.

- Adnan and Ronaldo being mentioned in the same breath. Januzaj is closer to Kieran Richardson than he is to Ronaldo.

- The love for Mata. Mourinho wanting rid was massive "caveat emptor". A bad signing.

An earlier poster was spot on...Rooney would be ridiculed in this thread for producing the kind of dross that RVP and Mata are churning out week in and week out.

Our back four is toxic right now. Fellas at sixes and sevens and all over the shop seems to be our modus operandi. I used to think that Jones was a great white hope but he's looking more and more like a headless chicken.

Ah Larry it's not all doom and gloom. Sure there's problems but there are also a number of positives. It'll all come together.

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