Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

The Moldy Gowl · 20-10-2014 08:53PM

I hope after tonight people stop including Jan in their fantasy lineups, for no reason.

kryogen · 20-10-2014 08:53PM

I cannot believe we did not win that game.

ElChe32 · 20-10-2014 08:53PM

What frustrates me most about Januzaj is all the ex-pro's and managers saying he does amazing things in training, compared by Moyes to Rooney, except Rooney did it in training and produced every time he got the chance at Adnan's age. A loan spell with regular football will do him the world of good, he won't get enough games with us to develop his game.

Headshot · 20-10-2014 08:54PM

We deserved to win that, we were the much better team. That missing piece of the puzzle which is a CB is really needed asap.

Our defence really let us down. We need that an experience CB at this stage. Someone that can keep the young lads inline

Whatsisname · 20-10-2014 08:54PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I hope after tonight people stop including Jan in their fantasy lineups, for no reason.

This x1000

Nolars · 20-10-2014 08:54PM

RVP dunno why he is playing every game. Mata goes missing again no wonder why he was let go when we have to battle he is useless.
Another 2 points dropped.

Larry Wildman · 20-10-2014 08:54PM

Look at Januzaj and then look at Raheem Sterling.

Then ask why the f..k there's so much hype about Adnan.

And Jesus Christ...that was probably our first choice back four playing tonight and they were toxic.

Timmyctc · 20-10-2014 08:55PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Look at Januzaj and then look at Raheem Sterling.

Then ask why the f..k there's so much hype about Adnan.

And Jesus Christ...that was probably our first choice back four playing tonight and they were toxic.

Theres not really that much hype about him at all tbh.Our first choice back four would alomost definitely include evans imo

Hococop · 20-10-2014 08:55PM

My frustration was with shaw, seemed to go so far out of position hope rvp is dropped for the next game it might be a motivator for him

ElChe32 · 20-10-2014 08:56PM

I thought Rojo was our best defender tonight...Jones is clueless. Raf fell asleep for the 2nd goal.

J. Marston · 20-10-2014 08:56PM

The defence is infuriating. Useless shower who ruin everything good we do.

Mars Bar · 20-10-2014 08:57PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

I thought Rojo was our best defender tonight...Jones is clueless. Raf fell asleep for the 2nd goal.

Rojo had been consistently solid in fairness to him

Larry Wildman · 20-10-2014 08:57PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

Theres not really that much hype about him at all tbh.Our first choice back four would alomost definitely include evans imo

People were talking about him being worth £50m...there has been a massive amount of hype about Januzaj.

newballsplease · 20-10-2014 08:57PM

All people on board the Januzaj express bandwagon please get off at the next station.

Adamocovic · 20-10-2014 08:57PM

At the end of the day it wasn't the result we needed. But saying that it would have been a lot worse if it finished 2-1.

We will have a big task coming up with Chelsea, City and Arsenal. Hopefully the lads will be pumped up for the big games enough to get some points out of them.

Funny how good our away form was last season compared to our home, now it's the complete opposite so far.

Giggsy11 · 20-10-2014 08:58PM

Can't believe of all the players Januzaj is getting criticism. He hardly played all season, this is his first start so obviously he would be rusty. On the other hand we have players like RVP, Mata who played almost all games and looked so awful. At least with run of games there is a chance Januzaj will improve but same cannot be said about RVP and to an extent Mata who was awful.

20-10-2014 08:58PM

Nolars wrote: »

RVP dunno why he is playing every game. Mata goes missing again no wonder why he was let go when we have to battle he is useless.
Another 2 points dropped.

Mata was far better than Januzaj. He was playing some nice balls through but as usual was being dragged too far back. I don't understand why the players capable of keeping possession are always subbed in these situations at United. I'd say Januzaj lost the ball over 20 times in that game.

Will I Amnt · 20-10-2014 08:58PM

Get used to results like this until the back line is revamped again. Worst defence I can remember United having, look dodgier than every other team in the league. Even Rafael was muck tonight.

Adamocovic · 20-10-2014 08:58PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

I thought Rojo was our best defender tonight...Jones is clueless. Raf fell asleep for the 2nd goal.

Wouldn't agree with that. He was off the pace but has been out for a while. Before his injury he was easily our best player.

Get him into the swing of things again and he will be crucial to us this year.

adox · 20-10-2014 08:59PM

Headshot wrote: »

We deserved to win that, we were the much better team. That missing piece of the puzzle which is a CB is really needed asap.

Our defence really let us down. We need that an experience CB at this stage. Someone that can keep the young lads inline

I thought Herrera and Blind inexplicably kept getting caught ahead of the ball together in the first half which certainly didn't help but yeah defence was poor.

2 shots on target from West Brom and two goals. You have to laugh. There was a period in the first half when the CB from either just had to hoof the ball up the pitch and it was a through ball. Schoolboy defending from both teams.

We still look shambolic as a defensive unit.

RVP Mata Herrera and Jamuzai were really poor and I tought Rojo looked very dodgy as did Shaw.

Tom.D.BJJ · 20-10-2014 08:59PM

That was poor for the most part. West Brom are okay and Berahinho looks excellent, but we really should be winning that.

Rojo and Jones just don't command enough for me. Each of them let a ball bounce that they should be heading clear. Thats basic and poor. Shaw just isn't up to it, yet.

Mata and Januzaj looked off the pace. RVP doesn't look up for it.

Rafael was good. Blind excellent but he needs someone beside him. Fellani was good and agressive when he came on.

PS: what exactly qualifies as a handball this season?

PPS: Match threads are full of slugs. Hate them

Billy86 · 20-10-2014 09:00PM

Looking at a positive, I have been one of his biggest critics of all but in fairness Fellaini showed more in those 45 minutes than he did in his 20 odd games last season, and his goal was excellently taken. Also was very impressed with Blind's finish for a guy who has scored something like 3 goals in his whole career to this point.

On the downside, Januzaj was absolutely atrocious and looks more devoid of confidence than I can recall seeing in a Man Utd forward or winger for quite some time. Would still definitely prefer to see him loaned out in January. Not many convincing performances all around, sadly.

newballsplease · 20-10-2014 09:00PM

A big signing central defender is a must

Giggsy11 · 20-10-2014 09:00PM

Liam O wrote: »

Mata was far better than Januzaj. He was playing some nice balls through but as usual was being dragged too far back. I don't understand why the players capable of keeping possession are always subbed in these situations at United. I'd say Januzaj lost the ball over 20 times in that game.

Far better? All he did was pass it sideways, lost possession and chickened out from every 50-50 ball.

At least from this game I can pick 2 highlights from top of my head for Januzaj. His wonderful cross which Fellaini almost scored and a wonderful pass to Rafael who almost created a chance.

With Mata? I think a blocked shot, awful free kick.

irishfeen · 20-10-2014 09:01PM

Fellaini was outstanding when he came on - best player on the pitch when he came on... should start now v Chelsea.

20-10-2014 09:02PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Can't believe of all the players Januzaj is getting criticism. He hardly played all season, this is his first start so obviously he would be rusty. On the other hand we have players like RVP, Mata who played almost all games and looked so awful. At least with run of games there is a chance Januzaj will improve but same cannot be said about RVP and to an extent Mata who was awful.

When Radamel Falcao is dropped for you you have to do something. Januzaj was worse than even Valencia has been the last couple of years. At least Valencia was keeping the ball. To play like he was you have to produce something in the game to make up for it. People want to see something in him that's not there, he's good at getting by people, not much else and his selfishness renders his biggest skill useless a lot as he tries to beat 2 or 3 players instead of passing or crossing.

adox · 20-10-2014 09:02PM

For all the praise for Blind he was very dodgy with his defensive responsibilities I thought. He doesn't have the pace to cover back when he's caught out of position and far too often he ventured ahead of the ball leaving a huge hole.

edgecutter · 20-10-2014 09:04PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Wouldn't agree with that. He was off the pace but has been out for a while. Before his injury he was easily our best player.

Get him into the swing of things again and he will be crucial to us this year.

There is the problem with Jones. He will be out with another stupid injury again, and the process will repeat itself.

kryogen · 20-10-2014 09:04PM

Headshot wrote: »

We deserved to win that, we were the much better team. That missing piece of the puzzle which is a CB is really needed asap.

Our defence really let us down. We need that an experience CB at this stage. Someone that can keep the young lads inline

I agree, i am not going overboard about the disappointment of the dropped points because of the way we played, it is very encouraging for the future, but the defence needs sorting quickly, just too easy to score against and catch out.

20-10-2014 09:05PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

People were talking about him being worth £50m...there has been a massive amount of hype about Januzaj.

Think the hype came from him being one of the minor positives from the Moyes era. 3-4 good performances and he was hyped up to the last. Seems to have effected him badly.

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