Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

Hollister11 · 20-10-2014 12:01AM

West ham had a decent defence last season. 14 CS or something.
Wally downes is their defensive coach, maybe try poach him.

Chucky the tree · 20-10-2014 12:02AM

Got battered, looked completely useless in pretty much all facets of play but when I read back over the match thread knowing the full time result I can't help but love it. I'll be delighted if the rest of our matches go the same way.

garra · 20-10-2014 12:05AM

8-10 wrote: »

There'll be big changes for the next game you'd expect after Poyet's comments post-game. Would be great for him to get a run of games.

Not really a good fixture next week to get back on track though....

Coates is not agressive enough to be a premiership defender, this fact does not tally with him being selected for Uruguy from time to time, but is my opinion regardless

Charlie19 · 20-10-2014 12:12AM

Well after watching the highlights on motd it actually looks a lot worse than the first time around. Just basic things like clearing the lines, If in doubt put the ball into the row z. The equalizer to make it 2-2:mad: So much wrong with that but what I didn't notice the first time was sterling giving up on chasing down the ball to the corner flag, he could of probably stopped the ball and hoofed but he just stopped his run, he certainly would have cleared it for a throw.

Think a six pack and a pack of smokes will be needed for Wednesday.

20-10-2014 12:23AM

martyos121 wrote: »

That's it exactly. We can't be expecting to compete with the big 2, for this season at least. Neither can Arsenal or United. It's a race for 2 CL spots between us, Arsenal, United and maybe Everton, and it's a race I fully expect us to win.

On another, slightly unrelated note, I genuinely believe Chelsea can do an unbeaten season with their squad. Injuries are the only thing that might prevent it. Hope to God I'm wrong though, can't stand the pure arrogance of Mourinho.

I can see the 100 point barrier being in danger this season.

OwaynOTT · 20-10-2014 06:05AM

In defence of Mario Balotelli, both own goals were down to his presence in the box. Both defenders took a swing at the ball, as it was going through to Mario if they didn't.

Criticised for not being in the box and yesterday there was a marked improvement there.

Obviously he missed a good chance and could have done a bit better on one or two more but he definitely helped towards the win.

People are criticising him for not closing down and making an effort, that's not fair. The top half of the pitch are not closing down like they were last year and a lot of those players were there last year and doing it.
Pressing high was one of the teams strongest assets last year. This year the team aren't doing it, apart from the Spurs game which was our best performance.

Every single player has to look at themselves over the performances and Rodgers needs to get the finger out soon.
Defence needs better protection and this cant be laid solely at Gerrard's feet. Can was in the holding role in the first half and we still were soft through the middle.
All our centre backs need to be stronger - constantly bullied.
Deeper players need to be braver with the ball and more proactive. Can't be passing it back to Mignolet four or five times in the space of a minute and putting him under pressure.
Pressing from the top needs to start again.
Balotelli on his own up front is not helping anyone. Borini needs to be playing up front with Mario, heck even Lambert.

Allen and Can back will hopefully help the midfield out a bit.

Coutinho looked very lively when he came on, hopefully he can kick on now.

Balotelli will score against Madrid this week and we will get a shock win. Everything will be hunky dory until we lose to Hull.

OwaynOTT · 20-10-2014 06:08AM

Also, I'm glad to see last season's madness return to show its insane head.

Augmerson · 20-10-2014 06:42AM

Charlie19 wrote: »

Think a six pack and a pack of smokes will be needed for Wednesday.

It will certainly be a pizza free event.

I would go the extra mile and buy a bottle of whiskey.

djPSB · 20-10-2014 06:51AM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

In defence of Mario Balotelli, both own goals were down to his presence in the box. Both defenders took a swing at the ball, as it was going through to Mario if they didn't.

Criticised for not being in the box and yesterday there was a marked improvement there.

Obviously he missed a good chance and could have done a bit better on one or two more but he definitely helped towards the win.

People are criticising him for not closing down and making an effort, that's not fair. The top half of the pitch are not closing down like they were last year and a lot of those players were there last year and doing it.
Pressing high was one of the teams strongest assets last year. This year the team aren't doing it, apart from the Spurs game which was our best performance.

Every single player has to look at themselves over the performances and Rodgers needs to get the finger out soon.
Defence needs better protection and this cant be laid solely at Gerrard's feet. Can was in the holding role in the first half and we still were soft through the middle.
All our centre backs need to be stronger - constantly bullied.
Deeper players need to be braver with the ball and more proactive. Can't be passing it back to Mignolet four or five times in the space of a minute and putting him under pressure.
Pressing from the top needs to start again.
Balotelli on his own up front is not helping anyone. Borini needs to be playing up front with Mario, heck even Lambert.

Allen and Can back will hopefully help the midfield out a bit.

Coutinho looked very lively when he came on, hopefully he can kick on now.

Balotelli will score against Madrid this week and we will get a shock win. Everything will be hunky dory until we lose to Hull.

Sounds very similar to the excuses we used to make for Carroll.

El Inho · 20-10-2014 07:23AM

Would anyone fancy a two up top partnership of lambert and borini?

Traditional target man and fast partner. The classic football manager combo!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 20-10-2014 07:47AM

El Inho wrote: »

Would anyone fancy a two up top partnership of lambert and borini?

Traditional target man and fast partner. The classic football manager combo!

Madrid, probably.

Talisman · 20-10-2014 07:58AM

Kerrigooney wrote: »

On a positive note - I heard Harry Redknapp's defence is naive, he might be interested in taking an experienced England international who can do goal line clearances.

Agent Coulson · 20-10-2014 08:16AM

El Inho wrote: »

Would anyone fancy a two up top partnership of lambert and borini?

Traditional target man and fast partner. The classic football manager combo!

I'd just want to see 2 up front.

Playing Balotelli or Lambert up front on their own is not how either wants to play and they are on a hiding to nothing!

On another note Johnson has been the best defender we have had since he came back after his injury.

S. Goodspeed · 20-10-2014 08:16AM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

In defence of Mario Balotelli, both own goals were down to his presence in the box. Both defenders took a swing at the ball, as it was going through to Mario if they didn't.

Criticised for not being in the box and yesterday there was a marked improvement there.

Obviously he missed a good chance and could have done a bit better on one or two more but he definitely helped towards the win.

People are criticising him for not closing down and making an effort, that's not fair. The top half of the pitch are not closing down like they were last year and a lot of those players were there last year and doing it.
Pressing high was one of the teams strongest assets last year. This year the team aren't doing it, apart from the Spurs game which was our best performance.

Every single player has to look at themselves over the performances and Rodgers needs to get the finger out soon.
Defence needs better protection and this cant be laid solely at Gerrard's feet. Can was in the holding role in the first half and we still were soft through the middle.
All our centre backs need to be stronger - constantly bullied.
Deeper players need to be braver with the ball and more proactive. Can't be passing it back to Mignolet four or five times in the space of a minute and putting him under pressure.
Pressing from the top needs to start again.
Balotelli on his own up front is not helping anyone. Borini needs to be playing up front with Mario, heck even Lambert.

Allen and Can back will hopefully help the midfield out a bit.

Coutinho looked very lively when he came on, hopefully he can kick on now.

Balotelli will score against Madrid this week and we will get a shock win. Everything will be hunky dory until we lose to Hull.

I just watched the replay of the winning goal a few times this morning. It's hard to tell but looks like Mario would have been offside if the ball did come through to him. Shockingly sloppy stuff if that was the case.

I agree though, I think (or hope) he's good for a goal against Madrid!

djPSB · 20-10-2014 08:19AM

El Inho wrote: »

Would anyone fancy a two up top partnership of lambert and borini?

Traditional target man and fast partner. The classic football manager combo!

No, we'd better to go with Henderson, Coutinho, Sterling and Lallana counter attacking the sh1t out of it.

Luckycharms_74 · 20-10-2014 08:28AM

Augeo wrote: »

13 points after 8 games (having played well for perhaps two games) and Hull at Anfield on Saturday, from a glass half full perspective it ain't too bad.

We need to get goals early though, tempo needs to be high from the off.

Ardent wrote: »

Hull will batter us.

Nah they wont. I'm going to the game. The last 2 games I was at we won

5-1 vs Arsenal
5-0 vs Norwich
I got this lads :P

x43r0 · 20-10-2014 08:33AM

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Nah they wont. I'm going to the game. The last 2 games I was at we won
5-1 vs Arsenal
5-0 vs Norwich
I got this lads :P

Wow..

He ain't called LuckyCharms for nothing!!

Luckycharms_74 · 20-10-2014 08:45AM

Trilla wrote: »

Best place to see the highlghts of todays game lads?

Can't embed links

SlickRic · 20-10-2014 08:58AM

Mario was bad, but the work rate thing is a lazy stick to beat him with.

The whole team has stopped pressing. There's little point in him pressing on his own if nobody else is doing it.

It's like the team are hoping for things to happen rather than making things happen.

tok9 · 20-10-2014 08:59AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

LOAN WATCH!

Coates - no game for Sunderland (again)

He's still out injured and not due back until November apparently.

flanzer · 20-10-2014 09:03AM

Skrtel made it into Garth Crooks team of the week :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Cartman78 · 20-10-2014 09:10AM

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Nah they wont. I'm going to the game. The last 2 games I was at we won
5-1 vs Arsenal
5-0 vs Norwich
I got this lads :P

Nice one...if the trend continues we should bang in another 5 goals with Hull somehow contriving to score minus 1.

5live · 20-10-2014 09:13AM

SlickRic wrote: »

Mario was bad, but the work rate thing is a lazy stick to beat him with.

The whole team has stopped pressing. There's little point in him pressing on his own if nobody else is doing it.

It's like the team are hoping for things to happen rather than making things happen.

No, it isn't.

When you play sh!te, the least you can do is help out the rest of the team by working hard. You cannot press the ball properly if only 9 players are doing it. I would love to see how much ground Balotelli covers because it looks like he hasn't even broke a sweat by full time.

Also, this thing about adapting the style of play to suit Balotelli is right up to a point but Balotelli also has to adapt his style to suit us. I don't imagine many defenders losing much sleep to see Balotelli drop off to 40 yards out to receive the ball and shoot from 30 yards out. The defenders are laughing because they can stay in place and within contact with each other because nobody drags defenders out of position with movement or turns to run in behind defenses and turn the whole back line.

He looks a one-trick-pony and that trick isn't even good anymore.:mad:

5live · 20-10-2014 09:15AM

flanzer wrote: »

Skrtel made it into Garth Crooks team of the week :eek::eek::eek::eek:

LCB:eek::eek::eek::eek:

He's havin' a laugh.

Dickerty · 20-10-2014 09:21AM

All I could think about having seen this yesterday -

THIS IS DEFENDING!!!!!

klose · 20-10-2014 09:22AM

Surprising to see skrtel in there, usually need to score a goal or get an assist to get into Gareth's xi

rob316 · 20-10-2014 09:22AM

I had a look at the highlights earlier to see the errors for the goals, its just farcical. Blame the back 4, but the midfielders were in no mans land for the set pieces. Skrtel wasn't that bad bar been mugged by Austin in the opening minutes, Lovren on the other hand was terrible, Enrique was awful too.

Wtf was Lovren doing heading that ball back to goal for the first one, it was a lazy glance of the ball off his head, ffs jump man and head it clear.

Heading a ball clear is the easiest thing a footballer has to do, and they cant even do that. For all of Sakho faults he can atleast head a ball.

Balotelli can not lead the line, Rodgers keep persisting with it and all its doing is effecting the team and Balotelli confidence. A confident Mario wouldn't have missed that open goal yesterday.

kfallon · 20-10-2014 09:24AM

rob316 wrote: »

I had a look at the highlights earlier to see the errors for the goals, its just farcical. Blame the back 4, but the midfielders were in no mans land for the set pieces. Skrtel wasn't that bad bar been mugged by Austin in the opening minutes, Lovren on the other hand was terrible, Enrique was awful too.

Wtf was Lovren doing heading that ball back to goal for the first one, it was a lazy glance of the ball off his head, ffs jump man and head it clear.

Heading a ball clear is the easiest thing a footballer has to do, and they cant even do that. For all of Sakho faults he can atleast head a ball.

Balotelli can not lead the line, Rodgers keep persisting with it and all its doing is effecting the team and Balotelli confidence. A confident Mario wouldn't have missed that open goal yesterday.

3rd goal v West Ham.....

Iang87 · 20-10-2014 09:25AM

Its Garth Crooks to be fair, making it into that team is worrying

On the Lambert Borini partnership, please happen just so I can see the headlines the following day.

"Liverpool speed to victory with a lamborini" - Sky sports 2 days from now

Super-Rush · 20-10-2014 09:25AM

rob316 wrote: »

I had a look at the highlights earlier to see the errors for the goals, its just farcical. Blame the back 4, but the midfielders were in no mans land for the set pieces. Skrtel wasn't that bad bar been mugged by Austin in the opening minutes, Lovren on the other hand was terrible, Enrique was awful too.

Wtf was Lovren doing heading that ball back to goal for the first one, it was a lazy glance of the ball off his head, ffs jump man and head it clear.

Heading a ball clear is the easiest thing a footballer has to do, and they cant even do that. For all of Sakho faults he can atleast head a ball.

Balotelli can not lead the line, Rodgers keep persisting with it and all its doing is effecting the team and Balotelli confidence. A confident Mario wouldn't have missed that open goal yesterday.

Lovern has been awful in every game he's played for us so far.

I don't know why Brendog insists on playing him.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

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