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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    If we were to finish outside the top 4 will you still that is the correct approach?

    You talk about sustainability as if we're shopping in the bargain basement, we're not, we're spending MASSIVE money. We just appear to be spending it very poorly.

    The club have to strike a balance between short term and long term.

    For the long term - buying players like Can/Markovic/Moreno is probably our best bet. They are close to the best around in terms of their age and their positions.

    If we look to buy established players, we have to drop down a tier. In the short term they might be better than the likes of Can or Markovic, but in the long term might not have near the potential ability.

    Lovren, Balotelli and Lallana are clearly more for the now. They've been (At best) a mixed bag to date, but you can't accuse the club of not thinking of the now.

    We also were in for Sanchez in a big way. He is as close to a star signing as we could have hoped for so that is clearly something the club were looking at. They can't be accused therefore of lacking ambition.

    Poor start to the season, but we are only a point off 4th and plenty to look forward to for the rest of the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    Wonder how the press will react to these comments.......

    Mourinho said: "After Arsenal he went to national team, he played two big matches against Slovakia and Luxembourg, and he come in conditions where he's not available to play for his club."

    Mourinho said he had "no idea" when Costa would next be available, but ruled him out of Tuesday's Champions League clash with Maribor and would not comment on the prospect of a return at Manchester United next Sunday.

    Mourinho added: "I think he will be in great condition in mid-November to be back for the national team. That's for sure. Our medical department will take great care of him and mid-November he will be in perfect conditions.

    "He will play for me when he has free time from national team."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,007 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    martyos121 wrote: »
    And he most likely will, just giving my idea of how we should line up. Personally, I'd prefer to keep Lallana fit and ready for Madrid, he's somewhat of an unknown quantity to them I'd say.

    I'd like us to field our strongest side available for the league and treat the CL as a bonus. Imo the league is more important and for now our priority should be just trying to hold onto those CL spots in the top four.

    A good run in CL this season will do feck all, If we've not qualified for it next season.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Charlie19 wrote: »
    I'd like us to field our strongest side available for the league and treat the CL as a bonus. Imo the league is more important and for now our priority should be just trying to hold onto those CL spots in the top four.

    A good run in CL this season will do feck all, If we've not qualified for it next season.

    Well what's the point in qualifying if were not going to give it our best shot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,028 ✭✭✭xabi


    Well what's the point in qualifying if were not going to give it our best shot?

    $


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    xabi wrote: »
    $

    **** that!

    I want more nights like against Juve, Chelsea and Milan!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,007 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    Well what's the point in qualifying if were not going to give it our best shot?

    Give it a go to a certain extent but I wouldn't be resting players with a Cl fixture in mind. It will mean a lot more to the club by sustaining ourselves in the CL for a few seasons.

    I know winning the CL would also have this effect but somehow, I don't think we could be that lucky. (again)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,567 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Charlie19 wrote: »
    I'd like us to field our strongest side available for the league and treat the CL as a bonus. Imo the league is more important and for now our priority should be just trying to hold onto those CL spots in the top four.

    A good run in CL this season will do feck all, If we've not qualified for it next season.

    So what you're saying is, we've spent the last 4 seasons building a team to get back into the Champions League, and now you think we just shouldn't be too arsed about it?
    That's a small club mentality. We should be giving this completion our very best. Big Champions League performances are what attract top players, not grinding out league results against Southampton and West Brom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,007 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    martyos121 wrote: »
    So what you're saying is, we've spent the last 4 seasons building a team to get back into the Champions League, and now you think we just shouldn't be too arsed about it?
    That's a small club mentality. We should be giving this completion our very best. Big Champions League performances are what attract top players, not grinding out league results against Southampton and West Brom.

    Now I hardly said we shouldn't be arsed.

    Yeah 4 seasons was probably the plan for Rodgers and he met that target early which is great but for now I think our squad is a bit young (Rodgers too) and naive for the CL at the moment.

    I'll go back to the point I was making..

    I'd think the league position should be the priority and I wouldn't be resting players for the CL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    **** that!

    I want more nights like against Juve, Chelsea and Milan!

    Be careful what you wish for....!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭kevohmsford


    Losing Daniel Sturridge for another month is a disaster. We really needed him back. The team is lacking a quality goalscorer at the moment.
    Borini has hardly played, Balotelli has yet to get going and Lambert looks finished. Why was Rodgers not able to bring in a quality striker in the summer ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,659 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Never mind getting Origami in at the winter window. Just saw the Saints stuff Sunderland and there's was a player on display there today with a real eye for goal.
    Do you think Sunderland still want Borini? Straight swap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Can't imagine Lucas has travelled tomorrow seeing as he posted on Instagram he is having a pizza night with his family, can and Allen will be involved so of imagine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭kevohmsford


    Hopefully Gerrard, Allen and Henderson tomorrow. Sterling, Lallana and Balotelli upfront.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    Gbear wrote: »
    Well if that's the way you see it you're going to be disappointed for as long as FSG are in charge.

    They've decided (and I agree with them) that the best way to build sustainably are young talents and maybe quality players that have stalled in their careers who're good value.



    This season isn't their only concern.

    I'm all for building for the future. Liverpool don't have the draw or financial clout of teams like Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Bayern, Barca etc. Therefore it makes sense to get tomorrows stars before they get big. Sneak them under the noses of bigger fish if you will.

    What I would like however is a slightly more balanced approach. Going only for young talent or players whose careers have stalled is a very risky strategy imo.
    Id like the FSG married witb the odd safer buy, as in the odd proven player. Someone that will instantly improve the first 11.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    martyos121 wrote: »
    So what you're saying is, we've spent the last 4 seasons building a team to get back into the Champions League, and now you think we just shouldn't be too arsed about it?
    That's a small club mentality. We should be giving this completion our very best. Big Champions League performances are what attract top players, not grinding out league results against Southampton and West Brom.

    Big cl nights won't attract top players if you're not in it next season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The Football League shows featured game is Reading v Derby so you can get a look at Ibe.

    Lille v Whoeveritwas ended in 1-2 defeat Origi didn't score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,703 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Hidalgo wrote: »
    I'm all for building for the future. Liverpool don't have the draw or financial clout of teams like Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Bayern, Barca etc. Therefore it makes sense to get tomorrows stars before they get big. Sneak them under the noses of bigger fish if you will.

    What I would like however is a slightly more balanced approach. Going only for young talent or players whose careers have stalled is a very risky strategy imo.
    Id like the FSG married witb the odd safer buy, as in the odd proven player. Someone that will instantly improve the first 11.

    I hear you and agree to a point but I think Lovren, Moreno, Lallana and Balotelli are all players who fit the general description of established players who can immediately improve the team. Granted, Balotelli was a risk.

    Can looks like a great buy, Bayern wanted him back.

    Manquillo and Markovic are the only ones I would identify as the signings with 'great potential'.

    I actually think it was a good transfer window though obviously I would have preferred a more suitable striker than Balotelli - that really was a panic buy. With him it's obvious the other targets didnt work out and they took the best of the leftovers. Why always him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,503 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    How do you Pool fans think you'll do on Wednesday night?
    Are you fearing it?
    Or do you think the occasion will lift the team to produce a performance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I'm backing Real big time. Might even go with a - 1 first half handicap.

    They pull Liverpool's pants down and smack our arses till the cheeks are red. :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,567 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    NIMAN wrote: »
    How do you Pool fans think you'll do on Wednesday night?
    Are you fearing it?
    Or do you think the occasion will lift the team to produce a performance?

    Gerrard was made for these sort of games, so I'm sure he'll score.
    That would mean 6-1 Madrid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,926 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    NIMAN wrote: »
    How do you Pool fans think you'll do on Wednesday night?
    Are you fearing it?
    Or do you think the occasion will lift the team to produce a performance?

    Youd be daft to think it will be anything bar a comfortable Real win really, we are missing Sturridge badly and we concede far too many to be confident.


  • Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Youd be daft to think it will be anything bar a comfortable Real win really, we are missing Sturridge badly and we concede far too many to be confident.

    The bookies odds suggest a real win is slightly better than a 50/50 chance, a comfortable real win might happen but in betting land its not at all a sure thing :)


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,892 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I'd nearly take a 0-2 defeat now in that game if it was offered, but hopefully whatever happens we give it a good go. It could from anything to a poxy win (unlikely) to a hammering.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    5starpool wrote: »
    I'd nearly take a 0-2 defeat now in that game if it was offered, but hopefully whatever happens we give it a good go. It could from anything to a poxy win (unlikely) to a hammering.

    So you'd take a 2-0 defeat now?

    Madness. I'd stop following us before I'd accept defeat before a game!


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,892 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    So you'd take a 2-0 defeat now?

    Madness. I'd stop following us before I'd accept defeat before a game!

    Well no obviously, but there is a little part of me that would be tempted as I really fear a hammering. Football is all about games like these and I'll be as excited and nervous as ever before a big game, but it's been a long time since I've been as fearful about the result of an individual game as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Demosthenese


    5starpool wrote: »
    Well no obviously, but there is a little part of me that would be tempted as I really fear a hammering. Football is all about games like these and I'll be as excited and nervous as ever before a big game, but it's been a long time since I've been as fearful about the result of an individual game as well.


    Fear a hammering ... QPR, Bottom of the league ... seriously. Delirious. What a completely ridiculous way of thinking. Fearful is a sound of a guy that doesn't have an incling of what football is ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,418 ✭✭✭mosstin


    Fear a hammering ... QPR, Bottom of the league ... seriously. Delirious. What a completely ridiculous way of thinking. Fearful is a sound of a guy that doesn't have an incling of what football is ...

    I'd suggest he's referring to the Madrid match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Fear a hammering ... QPR, Bottom of the league ... seriously. Delirious. What a completely ridiculous way of thinking. Fearful is a sound of a guy that doesn't have an incling of what football is ...

    Dunno what message you picked up, but you should retune your receiver... he's clearly talking about the Real Madrid game next week... not QPR.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,703 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Think its ridiculous to be full of fear for Madrid. The players should be excited. Liverpool have every chance at home.


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