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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,207 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    mosstin wrote: »
    Rarely give much attention to these type of things but was bored earlier and followed a link to the Telegraph's 100 greatest PL players of all time. At 99 John Barnes which is one place below No. 98, Scott Parker. Yes, Parker's played a hell of a lot more games at PL level but 90 minutes of Barnesie at PL level is better than a career of Parkerishness.
    Then decided to have a peek at No. 97. Shouldn't have. Phil Neville.

    I'm guessing it's because his peak years came just before the "Premier League" begun. For 3 or 4 years there in the late 80's he was undoubtably one of the best players in the world. There were seasons he scored 15, 22 and 16 league goals. From the wing. Which is insane. In comparision the highest another great winger like Ryan Giggs scored was 13 and 11. Barnes actually scored double digit league goals in 7 seasons (4 with Watford, 3 with Liverpool). Giggs managed it twice.

    The lack of European football has probably hurt Barnes' legacy as he never got to play in Europe in his prime. Especially with a Liverpool side that may well have been the best team in Europe for a couple of those years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    Anybody else worried about not getting a win on Sunday?

    We really should be putting QPR away but who knows. The win against West Brom was tight, although they shouldn't have been given the penalty.

    Looking at the weekend fixtures we might only jump ahead of Spurs. Southampton, Swansea and West Ham have winnable games.

    I'm hoping for a comfortable 3-0 win and it kick starts our season and September can be forgotten about.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Never tested on the European stage, and questionable enough at international level, "that goal" aside.

    He was quite unlucky at international comps tbf. Injured in 1990 during a group game and was unused until the quarters in 86.

    Post 1990 Graham Taylor was on the scene and England in general were abysmal. But yeah his international form was patchy when you look back. He was booed by classy England fans towards the end too. Top chaps.


    It certainly doesn't take away from the fact he was one of the greatest players to play for the club in one of its greatest teams. Legend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Can't remember who it was but I remember another England international at that time saying that Barnes was seen as the danger man by most countries so they would double up on him which would explain why he wasn't as effective in International football.

    Anyway, who cares about England, he was a genius in a Liverpool shirt, for me only Suarez tops him as the best Liverpool player I've seen in my lifetime.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,025 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    kfallon wrote: »
    for me only Suarez tops him as the best Liverpool player I've seen in my lifetime.

    I agree with this. Barnes was wonderful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    “I’m fed up reading about this club v country, claims we intervened and put pressure on Roy Hodgson,” Rodgers told The Independent.

    “I’ve read we sent a dossier to the FA on Raheem Sterling and Daniel Sturridge and I’m having showdown talks with Roy Hodgson on Sunday and all sorts of rubbish. The decision not to play him was a managerial decision. I haven’t said a single word but have to say I have never seen such rubbish written over the past few days.

    “At no point did Raheem Sterling say he didn’t want to play for England. The boy is being hung out to dry and I dare say the criticism will continue for a few more weeks to come because of this.”

    http://www.setanta.com/ie/rodgers-hits-back-in-sterling-row/?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    Hodgson really is a clown. A week later and Sterling is still being talked about and under the spotlight unfairly.

    I'm not going to get into whether it's right or wrong that Sterling should be tired. But he went up to his manager and let him know how he was feeling at the time, what should be a private conversation between the two.

    It's not like Sterling refused to play. Hodgson made a decision on the back of this discussion and played Lallana.

    For Hodgson to come out and put all the blame on Sterling like this just goes to show him up for what he is. A coward.

    How is Sterling meant to trust Hodgson after this? He can't really and he can't have much respect for him anymore either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,214 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Rodgers sounds pissed and he's right to be. Hodgson is some clown and once again show's that he has no class and way out of his depth.

    Any decent manager who would protect their players would just say " The lad didn't look sharp in training, looked a bit tired, we said we would give him a rest. We have a quality squad here plenty of other players pushing for a starting spot"

    Instead he hangs a 19 year old out in public. I'd call it shocking management but we all know what this fool is capable of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    rob316 wrote: »
    Rodgers sounds pissed and he's right to be. Hodgson is some clown and once again show's that he has no class and way out of his depth.

    Any decent manager who would protect their players would just say " The lad didn't look sharp in training, looked a bit tired, we said we would give him a rest. We have a quality squad here plenty of other players pushing for a starting spot"

    Instead he hangs a 19 year old out in public. I'd call it shocking management but we all know what this fool is capable of.
    That's the thing, though.

    Every time he opens his mouth, it reveals a whole new level of stupidity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    http://www.sport-magazine.co.uk/features/simple-life

    Balotelli interview. Worth a read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    Henderson standard chartered player of the month. First won he has won.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,043 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    dogbert27 wrote: »
    Anybody else worried about not getting a win on Sunday?

    We really should be putting QPR away but who knows. The win against West Brom was tight, although they shouldn't have been given the penalty.

    Looking at the weekend fixtures we might only jump ahead of Spurs. Southampton, Swansea and West Ham have winnable games.

    I'm hoping for a comfortable 3-0 win and it kick starts our season and September can be forgotten about.

    Only thing i am worried about is the team will have an eye on the Real Madrid game mid week instead of QPR

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    Great stuff from Brendan. None of the usual sitting on the fence comments. Straight to the point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,278 ✭✭✭x43r0


    NukaCola wrote: »
    Great stuff from Brendan. None of the usual sitting on face comments. Straight to the point.

    This is how I read that post


    I need another coffee - Not awake yet :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Daemonic


    x43r0 wrote: »
    This is how I read that post


    I need another coffee - Not awake yet :(
    You sir, have been watching too much dodgy pron :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    "Let me tell you, there have been at least five occasions in the past when Raheem has said he felt tired before games but he's never refused to play," Rodgers continued.

    "We have taken on board what he has said and taken a decision accordingly. I rested him against Aston Villa (13 September) and we lost the game. But it was our decision to do so - and our decision alone.

    "Last season, he said he felt tired before the Manchester City game (13 April). We won 3-2 and he put in a man-of-the-match performance.

    "The point I’m making is you have to take on board advice from your own people and make your own decision, right or wrong."

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9519704/european-qualifiers-brendan-rodgers-insists-no-pressure-put-on-england-over-liverpools-raheem-sterling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    gafferino wrote: »
    http://www.sport-magazine.co.uk/features/simple-life

    Balotelli interview. Worth a read.

    The independent put a twist on that article with a back page headline of balotelli blames rodgers tactics for his lack of goals. Worse than a tabloid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,265 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Augmerson wrote: »
    I hate when people are misquoted.

    What? I took out a few words to shorten it... he still said "mumble mumble" and "say something stupid" (or whatever it was)

    My post is still 100% canbokitrovy


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,953 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Hodgson could have stopped this Sterling shíte before it started by just telling the media that Sterling had played a lot of games, and that he thought England had enough in reserve not to risk him against Estonia.

    it's unbelievable how inept Roy is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    rarnes1 wrote: »

    It certainly doesn't take away from the fact he was one of the greatest players to play for the club in one of its greatest teams. Legend

    Not quite as cut and dried as you make out I'm afraid....

    There's always going to be an a question mark over the 86 to 90 era including JB because of the lack of European tests.

    How would that brilliant attacking side shape up against the great Milan side of the late 80s or any Italian side from easily the toughest league around?

    How about the dour Eastern Bloc clubs who parked the bus to a penalty shootout in European Cup Finals?


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Not quite as cut and dried as you make out I'm afraid....

    There's always going to be an a question mark over the 86 to 90 era including JB because of the lack of European tests.

    How would that brilliant attacking side shape up against the great Milan side of the late 80s or any Italian side from easily the toughest league around?

    How about the dour Eastern Bloc clubs who parked the bus to a penalty shootout in European Cup Finals?


    Your reply to that post makes no sense whatsoever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Your reply to that post makes no sense whatsoever

    He clearly means that with no European fixtures it was easy for Liverpool to win all those titles. Like last year, we were only good because we had no Europe. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    SlickRic wrote: »
    Hodgson could have stopped this Sterling shíte before it started by just telling the media that Sterling had played a lot of games, and that he thought England had enough in reserve not to risk him against Estonia.

    it's unbelievable how inept Roy is.

    That's what he would have said if England had won 6-0.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Not quite as cut and dried as you make out I'm afraid....

    There's always going to be an a question mark over the 86 to 90 era including JB because of the lack of European tests.

    How would that brilliant attacking side shape up against the great Milan side of the late 80s or any Italian side from easily the toughest league around?

    How about the dour Eastern Bloc clubs who parked the bus to a penalty shootout in European Cup Finals?

    The Liverpool team of around 88 was arguably the best in Europe. We'd probably have at least six European Cups if it wasn't for the ban.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Has kess been on or posted since lads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    Sturridge to be assessed tomorrow. :o:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,151 ✭✭✭flanzer


    Rodgers:
    Our second day recovery is a technical session. They don't sit at home watching Sky Sports

    In your face Roy, in your face :pac::pac:


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