Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

Nerdlingr · 19-09-2014 12:32PM

NukaCola wrote: »

In your opinion though. Your saying he was always average. I'm saying he wasn't always average. Before his injuries he was and would have continued to be a very important player for us based on him being very good.

Why the **** your talking about Steve McMahon and the 80's I have no idea though. Football is played in the present. At present we aren't guaranteed a top 4 finish even. Our past is important but clinging to it as a reminder of where we want to be is clouding your opinion on what a Liverpool player "should" be.

Obviously its my opinion! This is what discussion boards are about no? people giving their opinion?

And in your opinion you think Lucas was good enough for Liverpool and improved over the years. I'm saying he wasn't and hasnt improved.

He pales in comparison to a whole host of midfielders we've had over the years. Give me Ince, Redknapp, Murphy, Hamann, McAllister, Alonso, Mascherano, Henderson, Allen over Lucas any day of the week. (Just to bring it up to the present.... since that's where football is played in) And I make no excuses for using the past as a barometer as what we should be aiming for in the present. If you're happy with the likes of Lucas being the standard of what a Liverpool player should be then so be it. I'm not.

I'll leave it there cos this could go on for days!

DVDM93 · 19-09-2014 12:37PM

A little off topic but do people think Borini is good enough for us?

Mr Alan · 19-09-2014 12:39PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

He pales in comparison to a whole host of midfielders we've had over the years. Give me Ince, Redknapp, Murphy, Hamann, McAllister, Alonso, Mascherano, Henderson, Allen over Lucas any day of the week. (Just to bring it up to the present.... since that's where football is played in) And I make no excuses for using the past as a barometer as what we should be aiming for in the present. If you're happy with the likes of Lucas being the standard of what a Liverpool player should be then so be it. I'm not.

Lucas has shown infinitely more for Liverpool than Joe Allen has.

NukaCola · 19-09-2014 12:43PM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

I'll leave it there cos this could go on for days!

Fair enough

Vicxas · 19-09-2014 12:43PM

DVDM93 wrote: »

A little off topic but do people think Borini is good enough for us?

Busted his hump on Tuesday when he came on. His work rate can't be faulted

MD1990 · 19-09-2014 12:45PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Lucas has shown infinitely more for Liverpool than Joe Allen has.

In the past yes. For the last year Allen has easily outperformed Lucas. Allen has played well in the last year.

Hoki · 19-09-2014 12:52PM

Lucas has stagnated, Allen has blossomed(slowly). I'd start Allen over Lucas currently. At the end of the day current form is all that matters , who gives a fcuk if Lucas bossed the midfield against Chelsea in Stamford Bridge a few years ago, he wouldn't do it now.

Kerrigooney · 19-09-2014 12:52PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Lucas has shown infinitely more for Liverpool than Joe Allen has.

Not lately nor in the future I imagine.

I'm not slating Lucas btw...just saying.

NukaCola · 19-09-2014 12:54PM

Sam Allardyce on Liverpool.

‘Last year we were done by a referee decision. They came and said that the coach couldn’t park where it should have parked, the changing rooms were too hot, the grass was too long and they only managed to win on two penalties. It was a shame they go away with it last year’

He also said something about us being complacent against Villa, something like we took them lightly.

Hopefully it acts motivation for the weekend.

MD1990 · 19-09-2014 12:56PM

Unfair to compare Allen & Lucas overally time as an Liverpool player anyway. Lucas has had like a 5 year start too on Allen & probably as had as many poor seasons as good one's too.

19-09-2014 12:58PM

Allen is an important squad member for sure and so is Lucas if he regains better form, particularly better than last season. Thought he did ok the other night when he came on actually.

Harry Palmr · 19-09-2014 12:59PM

Allen works better for Liverpools busy diamond, Lucas is not really suited to it. Then again neither is Gerrard in truth.

amiable · 19-09-2014 01:02PM

Pop my head for the first time in ages and see people still think Lucas offers something to the team. The sooner Liverpool are rid the better. It says it all that Liverpool couldn't find anyone to buy him in the summer or even loan him out.

amiable · 19-09-2014 01:08PM

NukaCola wrote: »

Sam Allardyce on Liverpool.

‘Last year we were done by a referee decision. They came and said that the coach couldn’t park where it should have parked, the changing rooms were too hot, the grass was too long and they only managed to win on two penalties. It was a shame they go away with it last year’

He also said something about us being complacent against Villa, something like we took them lightly.

Hopefully it acts motivation for the weekend.

Allardyce holding on to his job by a thread so has to try anything to justify himself.
The man is cringe worthy. He complains after every defeat that they were unlucky it seems

amiable · 19-09-2014 01:09PM

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Not lately nor in the future I imagine.

I'm not slating Lucas btw...just saying.

I am. He's been sh1t for ages now apart from a few brief twenty minute spells in a couple of games. Not good enough for Liverpool IMO

whatawaster · 19-09-2014 01:12PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Lucas has shown infinitely more for Liverpool than Joe Allen has.

Not in the last 2 years he hasn't.

jcsoulinger · 19-09-2014 01:18PM

Vicxas wrote: »

Busted his hump on Tuesday when he came on. His work rate can't be faulted

FFS that's all we need, what's the expected recovery time for a busted hump?

x43r0 · 19-09-2014 01:21PM

DVDM93 wrote: »

Speechless...

Liverpool fan pages bring out the strangest comments

Go on the official LFC facebook page and read some of the comments on any post. It's basically a lot foreigners with poor English

sweetie · 19-09-2014 01:24PM

amiable wrote: »

Allardyce holding on to his job by a thread so has to try anything to justify himself.
The man is cringe worthy. He complains after every defeat that they were unlucky it seems

i'll have nothing said against the man after taking Andy, Stew and Joe from us!

Fescue · 19-09-2014 01:24PM

jcsoulinger wrote: »

FFS that's all we need, what's the expected recovery time for a busted hump?

I never busted my hump but I did get the hump before. Usually lasts an hour or so.

Harry Palmr · 19-09-2014 01:24PM

x43r0 wrote: »

Liverpool fan pages bring out the strangest comments

Go on the official LFC facebook page and read some of the comments on any post. It's basically a lot foreigners with poor English

But it's all adding value apparently!

Charlie19 · 19-09-2014 01:37PM

Dublin is getting a LFC official store in the Ilac shopping mall and its going to be opened on the 3rd of October by Didi Hamman.

Its a Friday so some ye might be able to bring along your junior reds.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/171011-reds-legend-to-open-new-dublin-store

DVDM93 · 19-09-2014 01:41PM

I think a lot of what frustrates people is that when Borini was initially linked with a move away, it was for a figure of 14 or so million. That is an absolute steal for a back up player considering we were linked with Remy for 8 or so million in or around the same time. Would ye have been happy if he went for 5 million?

Rodgers wanted Borini gone and he's a good a judge as any, which is enough for me to decide that he'll only ever reach the heights of a good back up player. Do I hope I'm wrong? I most certainly hope so. I'd love to see him turn it around like Henderson but I just can't see it happening.

All things well I would have preferred Remy to Borini and Eto'o to Lambert.

But that's not to be, I support Liverpool and Borini is a Liverpool player. Therefore I will support him as he fights for his place as long as he plays for us.

As for Lucas, I'm sorry as I like him. He's quite fond of the club but it just isn't working out. As mentioned that performance in Stamford Bridge years ago is no good to us now with the way he's playing. Sure that's as good as saying the Torres of old is still of use to us now. It's in the past, it's irrelevant. I can't see Lucas plating consistently well like that again. Allen is better and I'd even have Can ahead of him going by present performances if he wasn't injured.

Borini has more of a chance of having a good season than Lucas does though I think... I wish both of them all the best and hope they prove me wrong.

willowthewisp · 19-09-2014 01:42PM

Charlie19 wrote: »

Dublin is getting a LFC official store in the Ilac shopping mall and its going to be opened on the 3rd of October by Didi Hamman.

Its a Friday so some ye might be able to bring along your junior reds.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/171011-reds-legend-to-open-new-dublin-store

From the pictures it looks ready to go. Not open for trading until the 3rd of October then?

punk_one82 · 19-09-2014 01:48PM

Fescue wrote: »

I never busted my hump but I did get the hump before. Usually lasts an hour or so.

An hour? Cmon now.

googled eyes · 19-09-2014 02:16PM

x43r0 wrote: »

Liverpool fan pages bring out the strangest comments

Go on the official LFC facebook page and read some of the comments on any post. It's basically a lot foreigners with poor English

We're all foreigners in relation to the Prem League.

Liverpool FC is a global brand. If you want your team to be a world power you can't complain about people who may not speak your language supporting them.

Jesus if you're complaining about poor English you don't have to look to foreign fans. The locals are just as bad if not worse.

Edit: Although from your location maybe you're not

greendom · 19-09-2014 02:40PM

x43r0 wrote: »

Liverpool fan pages bring out the strangest comments

Go on the official LFC facebook page and read some of the comments on any post. It's basically a lot foreigners with poor English

I think that sums up Boards pretty well

DVDM93 · 19-09-2014 02:54PM

Balotelli just threw this up on Instagram, aboy Mario

8-10 · 19-09-2014 02:56PM

NukaCola wrote: »

Sam Allardyce on Liverpool.

‘Last year we were done by a referee decision. They came and said that the coach couldn’t park where it should have parked, the changing rooms were too hot, the grass was too long and they only managed to win on two penalties. It was a shame they go away with it last year’

The space in front of West Ham's goal was probably taken anyway. #BigSam

x43r0 · 19-09-2014 03:04PM

googled eyes wrote: »

We're all foreigners in relation to the Prem League.

Liverpool FC is a global brand. If you want your team to be a world power you can't complain about people who may not speak your language supporting them.

Jesus if you're complaining about poor English you don't have to look to foreign fans. The locals are just as bad if not worse.

Edit: Although from your location maybe you're not

Don't get me wrong at all - I'm not complaining about them. I just find the comments funny. Kind of in the same vein as the stuff you'd see on Engrish

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

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