Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

Adamocovic · 22-08-2014 08:16PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Strootman in January is a pipe dream.
And people have got to let this idea go that this squad won the league, therefore...
Vidic, evra, rio, giggs, scholes gone.
Sir Alex gone.
Improvement in our competitors.
Some players getting old.
Too many injuries.
This is not two years ago. Things have changes quite a bit since that time.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

has it?

Rio, Vidic and Evra as a unit were one of the main reasons, if not the main reasons of our success in the last few years.

their loss is absolutely huge. and even in our success in 2011, Nani was our player of the year.

I agree the loss of the key players is big but saying that you can't discredit the fact that a lot of the current players contributed to the team success and have won their accomplishments through their own merit.

When a player has played a part in a squad that has gone on to win the league and numerous other trophies we can't just overlook it. I'm not saying we will win the league, by no means but even with the improvements of our opposition and a few key players leaving we really should still be competing for a top four spot. At the moment I would say our team is missing two key players to actually make us a real threat to the title.

redbaron_99 · 22-08-2014 08:17PM

You know, as bad as things are. I felt really dreadful yesterday to see the photos of Paul Gascogne. Tragic to see what drink can do to a person. Anyone else see the pics? Was a big fan of his when I was a kid.

Been wondering, I know sir Alex tried to bring him in years ago. I wonder if the great man might have altered the course of gazza's life if we had bought him.

2moreMinutes · 22-08-2014 08:20PM

If following United annoyed and aggravated me as much as it appears to annoy & aggravate others itt, I'd immediately lose interest in them and take up something less stressful like flower arranging or Russian Roulette.

twam2008 · 22-08-2014 08:20PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

I agree the loss of the key players is big but saying that you can't discredit the fact that a lot of the current players contributed to the team success and have won their accomplishments through their own merit.

When a player has played a part in a squad that has gone on to win the league and numerous other trophies we can't just overlook it. I'm not saying we will win the league, by no means but even with the improvements of our opposition and a few key players leaving we really should still be competing for a top four spot. At the moment I would say our team is missing two key players to actually make us a real threat to the title.

I think there will be a handful of the squad left within a couple of years.

irishfeen · 22-08-2014 08:20PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

You know, as bad as things are. I felt really dreadful yesterday to see the photos of Paul Gascogne. Tragic to see what drink can do to a person. Anyone else see the pics? Was a big fan of his when I was a kid.

Been wondering, I know sir Alex tried to bring him in years ago. I wonder if the great man might have altered the course of gazza's life if we had bought him.

Ah it was dreadful to see

Hococop · 22-08-2014 08:21PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

You know, as bad as things are. I felt really dreadful yesterday to see the photos of Paul Gascogne. Tragic to see what drink can do to a person. Anyone else see the pics? Was a big fan of his when I was a kid.

Been wondering, I know sir Alex tried to bring him in years ago. I wonder if the great man might have altered the course of gazza's life if we had bought him.

Saw that pic sad to see him that way and he is only 47

redbaron_99 · 22-08-2014 08:25PM

Hococop wrote: »

Saw that pic sad to see him that way and he is only 47

I know. Looks like a frail old man. I just remember the time George best interviewed sir Alex. He was very direct to best, and said he wouldn't allow one of his players do what he did. Talked about protecting his players.
Who knows. He might have saved gazza from himself.

IrishIrish · 22-08-2014 08:25PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

has it?

Rio, Vidic and Evra as a unit were one of the main reasons, if not the main reasons of our success in the last few years.

their loss is absolutely huge. and even in our success in 2011, Nani was our player of the year.

Really? I thought you said RooneyRonaldo RVP 'papered over the cracks'?

Whatsisname · 22-08-2014 08:28PM

Radio Marca saying Di Maria has spoke to Rojo about United and wants the move. Hmm.

Christy Browne · 22-08-2014 08:36PM

dor843088 wrote: »

I fail to see how not being in for the best available players is better than at least trying to sign them and failing.

But Hummels isn't available, he isn't leaving Dortmund. I suppose we should stick a cheeky bid in for Ronaldo and Messi as well, just so we can say we tried?

irishfeen · 22-08-2014 08:37PM

Well bai's ye ready for round 2 :pac:

advertsfox · 22-08-2014 08:43PM

https://twitter.com/Marcador/status/502911736698372097
Translation:

"Di Maria wants to play for Manchester it has already been contacted #red new United player"

kryogen · 22-08-2014 08:44PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

Radio Marca saying Di Maria has spoke to Rojo about United and wants the move. Hmm.

Well in fairness, Rojo with his years of playing for the club would be well able to fill him in on the finer points of playing for United and living in Manchester, the do's and don'ts, the where to goes and what to see etc

Di Maria is obviously a savvy character and knows the best way to get a transfer to United is to have a chat with a newly signed United player and express an interest in moving to him.

Whatsisname · 22-08-2014 08:46PM

kryogen wrote: »

Well in fairness, Rojo with his years of playing for the club would be well able to fill him in on the finer points of playing for United and living in Manchester, the do's and don'ts, the where to goes and what to see etc

Di Maria is obviously a savvy character and knows the best way to get a transfer to United is to have a chat with a newly signed United player and express an interest in moving to him.

Don't shoot the messenger

kryogen · 22-08-2014 08:48PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

Don't shoot the messenger

Not at all just poking fun at the absurdity of the message.

irishfeen · 22-08-2014 08:48PM

What's Marca like for reliability lately?? ... They probably still have the photoshop machine on overdrive putting those white jerseys on the yanks

Son Of A Vidic · 22-08-2014 08:48PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I wonder if the great man might have altered the course of gazza's life if we had bought him.

Always hard to say, but personally I think it could have. Giggsy has spoken many times about the affect SAF had in managing him and guiding him throughout his career. Becks never forget how SAF protected him and shielded him from the ire of the nation after the 98 Word Cup. He protected Ronaldo from the media frenzy, when he returned to England after the Rooney sending off. Of course there is no guarantee that Gazza would have turned out any different. But I think if he had of been under the guiding wing of SAF. He could have had a much more successful career and a healthier life.

homerjay2005 · 22-08-2014 08:54PM

LVG on the injury crisis at the club right now.

i have never experienced anything like this in my entire career. its too much

Ed The Equalizer · 22-08-2014 08:57PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

LVG on the injury crisis at the club right now.

Is that from the embargoed part of the press conference?

Rayne Wooney · 22-08-2014 08:58PM

It's only an injury crises because we've let so many defenders go and have our typical useless midfield options. A self inflicted injury crises

Di Maria to replace Welbeck would be amazing

twam2008 · 22-08-2014 08:59PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

LVG on the injury crisis at the club right now.

It's not too late to sign some emergency cover Louis!

redbaron_99 · 22-08-2014 09:01PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

LVG on the injury crisis at the club right now.

That's what I was saying earlier. It's too much for anyone to control. Too many fires to put out.

Moyes said something similar last year.
*runs away*

But there is the question: what would happen if another top club was in a
Position like this?

homerjay2005 · 22-08-2014 09:07PM

Taok wrote: »

Is that from the embargoed part of the press conference?

no, he has done a couple of more interviews tonight seperate from that. he said that there are 7 players injured, it was 9 last week. assuming Fellaini, Herrera and Jesse are 3 added to the list, i assume that means 5 of the players missing last week, are now available?

still injured -
Carrick
Shaw
Herrera
Fellaini
Jesse

who are the other 2, Welbeck and ???

ericzeking · 22-08-2014 09:10PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

no, he has done a couple of more interviews tonight seperate from that. he said that there are 7 players injured, it was 9 last week. assuming Fellaini, Herrera and Jesse are 3 added to the list, i assume that means 5 of the players missing last week, are now available?

still injured -
Carrick
Shaw
Herrera
Fellaini
Jesse

who are the other 2, Welbeck and ???

Herrera is injured now too? Ah for fock sake...

Maximus Alexander · 22-08-2014 09:10PM

Anyone else think someone saw Welbeck go into LVG's office and then invented a conversation that may have taken place?

redbaron_99 · 22-08-2014 09:12PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Always hard to say, but personally I think it could have. Giggsy has spoken many times about the affect SAF had in managing him and guiding him throughout his career. Becks never forget how SAF protected him and shielded him from the ire of the nation after the 98 Word Cup. He protected Ronaldo from the media frenzy, when he returned to England after the Rooney sending off. Of course there is no guarantee that Gazza would have turned out any different. But I think if he had of been under the guiding wing of SAF. He could have had a much more successful career and a healthier life.

Was watching this with my da. He was a spurs fan. Still remember he turned to me and said 'thank f*ck he didn't sign for yous'

http://youtu.be/GVMaIUSeRxA

twam2008 · 22-08-2014 09:13PM

The whole I was King last week and I'm the Devil this week, I don't get that, surely a very small percentage of people would have been critical of LVG, where does that come from?

Deiseboy01 · 22-08-2014 09:13PM

Peist2007 wrote: »

No, i think that Scholes is not eloquent and any time i have seen him interviewed he comes across as a man of few words. So to expect him to elucidate on the tactical ramifications of 3 centre halves to BT Sport viewers was unlikely to happen.

And i never said it worked that way. Of the various ex-player pundits around there are more that i do not think have a clue than those i do. But to have Scholes' views "disregarded" and then to give your own opinion as if it carries more weight is funny in my opinion. The very definition of internet football punditry.

So are we all in agreement that Pro F knows more about playing 3 at the back than Paul Scholes? :pac:

Way behind here but this is soooooo spot on I just had to thank it, read the original Pro F post and thought it one of the most arrogant posts I've ever seen on Boards.

Generally appreciate Pro F s posts so not a dig but Jesus the tone that post was off the scale me me me!!

kryogen · 22-08-2014 09:14PM

Taok wrote: »

Is that from the embargoed part of the press conference?

No it was part of a longer answer to a question he gave earlier

J. Marston · 22-08-2014 09:14PM

I'm injured too.

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