Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

MagicIRL · 22-08-2014 12:45PM

brinty wrote: »

Anna Kendrick did hers in a white dress:eek::p

WHAT.

PM ME.

Vertigo100 · 22-08-2014 12:46PM

TheTownie wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KW0pbRvLZ8

Would have been better if they kissed afterwards

TheTownie · 22-08-2014 12:48PM

Vertigo100 wrote: »

Would have been better if they kissed afterwards

how about before, during and after.

MagicIRL · 22-08-2014 12:49PM

:-)

Maximus Alexander · 22-08-2014 12:50PM

Vertigo100 wrote: »

Would have been better if they kissed afterwards

The worst part is you know that after the camera stopped rolling they would have needed to cuddle to warm up.

22-08-2014 12:51PM

Pro. F wrote: »

Any change in the market value of a player is not a direct indicator of a change in their quality. If a great player is given a new contract with huge wages then his market value will go down even if he is still preforming the same. This is because buying clubs know they will have to pay more wages. Players' market value tends to go down as they get into their late twenties and early, even when they are performing well. That reflects resale value, not what they are contributing on the pitch.

If you were discussing our squad's resale value then deciphering changes in market value of the players would be useful. Using changes in market value to judge the quality we put on the pitch is an extremely poor guide.

And that's where we agree to disagree. 75% of our squad are not worth snot because there underperforming on the pitch, taking players wages into account is vague reasoning there are plenty of big clubs willing to take big player wages if they feel the player is good enough to invest in.

Also would like to know your opinion on this;

Have Man Utd collectively as a team being performing to the 'standard' we should expect in the Last 3 Years in your opinion?

Kylo Ren · 22-08-2014 01:03PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

:-)

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

mufc1993 · 22-08-2014 01:07PM

Would be pretty sickened to see Welbeck leave. Not a bad sub to have but if he's not happy to warm the bench then it's hard to see what else can happen. Had a good record up front last season 6 in 6 or something like that?!

Coat22 · 22-08-2014 01:10PM

What time is the press conference today?

Will the press be allowed ask questions about transfers?

DM_7 · 22-08-2014 01:10PM

United squad is far too big. Needs more quality than numbers. 4 strikers is too many. Interested to hear what Van Gaal says today.

Edit: four that need to play regularly considering age etc

Adamcp898 · 22-08-2014 01:15PM

Portugeese paper Record have linked us with Gaitan again. Wouldn't spend his £36 million buyout clause to get him which is apparently what it would take.

Pro. F · 22-08-2014 01:15PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

And that's where we agree to disagree. 75% of our squad are not worth snot because there underperforming on the pitch, taking players wages into account is vague reasoning there are plenty of big clubs willing to take big player wages if they feel the player is good enough to invest in.

Also would like to know your opinion on this;

Have Man Utd collectively as a team being performing to the 'standard' we should expect in the Last 3 Years in your opinion?

The idea of agreeing to disagree is that you don't continue the argument.

Big clubs are willing to pay high wages. The higher the wages they have to pay, the less they have to spend on the initial purchase. Wage negotiations stall transfers all the time.

In the 13/14 season the performance wasn't good enough. Moyes was sacked for it as he should have been.

In the 12/13 season the performance was more than acceptable.

The early exit from Europe was disappointing in 11/12, but shít happens. Finishing a close second in the league is well within reasonable expectations.

Sure there have been things I have wanted changed at different times over the last few years, but the resale value of the players in the squad is at the bottom of the list.

Coat22 · 22-08-2014 01:16PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

United squad is far too big. Needs more quality than numbers. 4 strikers is too many. Interested to hear what Van Gaal says today.

Edit: four that need to play regularly considering age etc

Given that RVP will spend half the season injured and Rooney at least 10 games then I would say

Rooney
RVP
Chico
Januzaj
Wilson

should be enough to manage 50 odd games

magnumbud · 22-08-2014 01:16PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

United squad is far too big. Needs more quality than numbers. 4 strikers is too many. Interested to hear what Van Gaal says today.

Edit: four that need to play regularly considering age etc

without europe this season we may only need 3 strikers but think most top teams who are gonna play 2 up top need 4.

if the rumours of welbeck are true and (not expecting it) hernandez was required in a deal for vidal then i would imagine and hope another striker was brought in with wilson covering as the 4th

MagicMarker · 22-08-2014 01:16PM

Selling Welbeck would make absolutely no sense. Rooney and RVP will not stay fit for the season. Unless we're bringing someone in I just can't see why we'd do it, unless LVG wants to give the likes of Wilson a shot, but that's hugely risky considering the state of the team overall.

Nalz · 22-08-2014 01:16PM

Coat22 wrote: »

What time is the press conference today?

3:30PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Selling Welbeck would make absolutely no sense. Rooney and RVP will not stay fit for the season. Unless we're bringing someone in I just can't see why we'd do it, unless LVG wants to give the likes of Wilson a shot, but that's hugely risky considering the state of the team overall.

Welbeck wont be sold lads

TheTownie · 22-08-2014 01:17PM

Cadena COPE saying Di Maria has been left out of the squad for tonight Super Cup 2nd leg.

EDIT: May not be totally accurate by COPE.

Sport Witness ‏@Sport_Witness 2m
Real Madrid said earlier that Di Maria is in the 22 for tonight, so Cope may mean not in 11 or a sub. We'll see.

kstand · 22-08-2014 01:18PM

In fairness to Welbeck, why would he want to go to a club that were not top 6? He has a league winners medal and has played in the CL, itd be a bit of a climb down for him. Have a feeling though he has requested to leave? Otherwise how could such conditions be imposed?

FutureGuy · 22-08-2014 01:19PM

kstand wrote: »

In fairness to Welbeck, why would he want to go to a club that were not top 6? He has a league winners medal and has played in the CL, itd be a bit of a climb down for him. Have a feeling though he has requested to leave? Otherwise how could such conditions be imposed?

Off to PSG I reckon.

Lord TSC · 22-08-2014 01:20PM

Maybe Juvi will take him in part exchange for Vidal.

Screw it. Welbeck, Hernandez, Anderson and a pack of crisps, and we take Pogba and Vidal.

Leroy42 · 22-08-2014 01:20PM

FutureGuy wrote: »

Off to PSG I reckon.

We get Di Maria and let them have Wellback? Sounds like a plan

Mitch Connor · 22-08-2014 01:21PM

FutureGuy wrote: »

Off to PSG I reckon.

I would say it is likely that is where he will end up, but I'd be a little surprised if PSG are that close to doing it right now that he would be removed from the squad tonight - nothing to suggest they have made a move in the last few days and all reports indicate they need to sell one of their bigger name players to free up the cash to buy him.

That said, clubs like PSG tend to move very quickly when they do decide to move, so a deal could be announced with them before the press even get wind of a bid.

MagicIRL · 22-08-2014 01:22PM

So that's both Benita and Di maria left out of squads... wonder were they'll both end up. United is where Di Maria should play, not even as a fan, but for the quality of the league. PSG, despite stupid money, is in a circus.

Coat22 · 22-08-2014 01:30PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

So that's both Benita and Di maria left out of squads... wonder were they'll both end up. United is where Di Maria should play, not even as a fan, but for the quality of the league. PSG, despite stupid money, is in a circus.

Di Maria would be savage in the PL

Thinking back to the CL Final its actually mad that Madrid are letting him go

Montroseee · 22-08-2014 01:34PM

Well the bright side of Welbeck and Chico leaving is that Kagawa will finally get regular game time in his preferred spot.

Mitch Connor · 22-08-2014 01:34PM

If Unied did sign Di Maria (and I dont think we will) - anyone think LVG could have him pegged as a potential forward, similar to Robben's role at the WC (and a role I think Januzaj) could do well in. Could explain Welbeck leaving, Di Maria would be another option (ahead of Welbeck, maybe) up top if Rooney or RVP are injured.

MagicIRL · 22-08-2014 01:35PM

Montroseee wrote: »

Well the bright side of Welbeck and Chico leaving is that Kagawa will finally get regular game time in his preferred spot.

Kagawa is not a striker or winger, nor are either Chico or Welbz a #10?

Adamocovic · 22-08-2014 01:36PM

Just saw Moyes doing the ice bucket challenge, was hoping he'd nominated Woodward or VG :P

homerjay2005 · 22-08-2014 01:36PM

Keno wrote: »

We need to start the 'White Top, No Bra Ice Bucket Challenge'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBl3cL_Q3xc

Montroseee · 22-08-2014 01:38PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Kagawa is not a striker or winger, nor are either Chico or Welbz a #10?

It's not as simple as saying that. There will be less forwards so he will get more game time and has potential far greater than Chico and Danny.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

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