Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

markcahill1985 · 22-08-2014 12:12PM

I like and rate Welbeck however if seeling him meant James Wilson got promoted and would be given minutes this season then I would be all for it (big IF I know).

Mitch Connor · 22-08-2014 12:14PM

markcahill1985 wrote: »

I like and rate Welbeck however if seeling him meant James Wilson got promoted and would be given minutes this season then I would be all for it (big IF I know).

I'd sell Chico for that purpose. Wilson is closer in style to Chico than Welbeck imo. More of a traditional striker.

Vic Vinegar · 22-08-2014 12:15PM

Let's not forget it's only one paper that is reporting Welbeck can leave anyway, shouldn't take it as fact just yet.

markcahill1985 · 22-08-2014 12:15PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'd sell Chico for that purpose. Wilson is closer in style to Chico than Welbeck imo. More of a traditional striker.

yeah absolutely I would agree with you, I think tho that Welbeck wants to leave, they were rumours at end of last season that he asked for more and it wasnt changed by Moyes leaving.

Mantis Toboggan · 22-08-2014 12:17PM

Wilson should be loaned out to a championship club for the season where he would be guaranteed first team football.

JimsAlterEgo · 22-08-2014 12:17PM

Kagawa wrote: »

With all this stuff going around about players being told they can leave and no replacements coming in, I'm starting to wonder do utd realise that the window closes in less than 2 weeks! It makes no sense to be telling all theses players they can leave with so little time remaining.

with no CL we dont need massive numbers this season, just quality.

Kylo Ren · 22-08-2014 12:18PM

In my mind, the only reason he will be sold is if he asked to. There is no sense in selling him before Hernandez.

Maybe LVG told him he wouldn't play striker.

Adamocovic · 22-08-2014 12:18PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Let's not forget it's only one paper that is reporting Welbeck can leave anyway, shouldn't take it as fact just yet.

That is true, I think I heard a lot of the rumours started from teams being interested and him going in to have talks with the club about his position and contract, I wouldnt be too surprised if he signs a contract extension! :pac:

Lord TSC · 22-08-2014 12:20PM

Keno wrote: »

In my mind, the only reason he will be sold is if he asked to. There is no sense in selling him before Hernandez.

There's the possibility both are going as we go after DiMaria and Vidal.

Mitch Connor · 22-08-2014 12:22PM

Keno wrote: »

In my mind, the only reason he will be sold is if he asked to. There is no sense in selling him before Hernandez.

Maybe LVG told him he wouldn't play striker.

Agreed - though going a step further I would say it might be becuase he won't be a certain starter.

Welbeck suits the 433/352 formations very well - and he said in the summer playing wide in a 433 is different (and more enjoyable) to playing wide in a 442 (England vs United) so I don't think position is the problem - I have to assume it is the number of starts he is likely to get.

TheTownie · 22-08-2014 12:23PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Natalie Sawyer and Hayley Mcqueen just about to do the ice bucket over each other live now on SSN.

id pay the entire pot to pour it over Natalie.

*edit its recorded...doesnt take away from it though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KW0pbRvLZ8

Nalz · 22-08-2014 12:25PM

Sorry lads this there a United fans boards.ie fantasy league?

Lord TSC · 22-08-2014 12:25PM

I worry that next summer, we're going to have to look at a new striker. RVP and Rooney will be a year older, and I simply don't think Hernandez or Welbeck will ever be our #1 choices. Not sure how Wilson will do long term, but think we could be in a position where we need a 23-24 year old TOP level striker....

ericzeking · 22-08-2014 12:26PM

Welbeck is surely getting to a stage where he should be playing week in week out up front and scoring goals, he must surely look at someone like Sturridge and see how his star has risen.
He aint gonna usurp RVP and Rooney any time soon so it would make career sense for him to move on.

brinty · 22-08-2014 12:26PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Natalie Sawyer and Hayley Mcqueen just about to do the ice bucket over each other live now on SSN.

id pay the entire pot to pour it over Natalie.

*edit its recorded...doesnt take away from it though

Oh wow, now that would be a sight to see, link if ye can Homer

Kylo Ren · 22-08-2014 12:27PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Agreed - though going a step further I would say it might be becuase he won't be a certain starter.

Welbeck suits the 433/352 formations very well - and he said in the summer playing wide in a 433 is different (and more enjoyable) to playing wide in a 442 (England vs United) so I don't think position is the problem - I have to assume it is the number of starts he is likely to get.

No Champions League is going to cut down games for the 'fringe' players. Barring injuries, the starters are going to play a lot more league games this year. Welbeck would have been one of those players you'd play on a Sunday when you're playing mid week in Eastern Europe etc.

I hope it doesn't occur.

irishfeen · 22-08-2014 12:28PM

TheTownie wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KW0pbRvLZ8

Two fine old dolls ..

Mikeyt086 · 22-08-2014 12:28PM

bullvine wrote: »

Theo Walcott is far far better player than Welbeck will ever be.

You say that like Theo Walcott has ever done anything, ever.

Peist2007 · 22-08-2014 12:28PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I agree that spacial awareness is very important. But if you are looking down at the ball, or playing your way into tighter spots because you have miscontrolled it, or not making extra room for yourself with good control then you won't be able to look up and use your spacial awareness to pick out a pass.

But if you have good ball control you wont be "looking down at the ball". That's what poor players tnd to do. Your head will be up

SherlockWatson · 22-08-2014 12:29PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

You say that like Theo Walcott has ever done anything, ever.

He just, like, runs fast and stuff, no footballing brain at all.

Kylo Ren · 22-08-2014 12:32PM

TheTownie wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KW0pbRvLZ8

We need to start the 'White Top, No Bra Ice Bucket Challenge'

The Moldy Gowl · 22-08-2014 12:33PM

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I don't get why people still take rumors of Real Madrid players moving to United seriously. The don't sell to us. They never have and they never will. Its an unwritten rule at Madrid not to sell even unwanted leftovers to Manunited

Since when? What nonsense.

Will we forget when Madrid gave us a load of players on loan after the crash?

Pretty sure it was Munich?

Hank Scorpio · 22-08-2014 12:33PM

SherlockWatson wrote: »

He just, like, runs fast and stuff, no footballing brain at all.

Walcott is a brilliant player and has improved ten fold over the last 3 years, he does have a footballing brain and is a lethal finisher

He's streets ahead of Wellbeck and for anyone who thinks otherwise please remove the red tinted glasses

LostBoy101 · 22-08-2014 12:36PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Since when? What nonsense.

Will we forget when Madrid gave us a load of players on loan after the crash?

Pretty sure it was Munich?

Indeed and they even offered to loan us Di Stefano which we refused.

Maximus Alexander · 22-08-2014 12:36PM

nuxxx wrote: »

Walcott is a brilliant player and has improved ten fold over the last 3 years, he does have a footballing brain and is a lethal finisher

He's streets ahead of Wellbeck and for anyone who thinks otherwise please remove the red tinted glasses

Would Arsenal glasses not be red tinted too?

brinty · 22-08-2014 12:38PM

Keno wrote: »

We need to start the 'White Top, No Bra Ice Bucket Challenge'

Anna Kendrick did hers in a white dress:eek::p

Vic Vinegar · 22-08-2014 12:39PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Let's not forget it's only one paper that is reporting Welbeck can leave anyway, shouldn't take it as fact just yet.

Seems like 3 other papers are reporting it now, darn it.

TheTownie · 22-08-2014 12:41PM

Daniel Taylor thinks the Welbeck story is true.

Daniel Taylor ‏@DTguardian 3m
Heading to #MUFC press conf in a bit so will ask LVG about Danny Welbeck. But story is true. He can leave (albeit with conditions).

Daniel Taylor ‏@DTguardian 2m
Whether that means he will is another matter. #MUFC don't want to sell to top-six club. Welbeck doesn't want to drop further down.

Adamocovic · 22-08-2014 12:42PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Seems like 3 other papers are reporting it now, darn it.

Wont go solely by the papers though, if what the papers wrote was always true I'd be sitting here smiling with Hummels, Vidal, DiMaria, and half the dutch squad wearing United jerseys :P

Pro. F · 22-08-2014 12:44PM

Peist2007 wrote: »

But if you have good ball control you wont be "looking down at the ball". That's what poor players tnd to do. Your head will be up

The skills of first touch and close control are not binary conditions. Scholes' touch and control was miles better than the vast majority of players even at the biggest clubs.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

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