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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭twam2008


    If the level of player isn't available then surely you drop down to the next level.

    If Vidal isn't available, go for someone below him.

    I totally agree with you there. Might be happening. Can only hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,210 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Headshot wrote: »
    Personally if I only saw Di Maria as the last signing this transfer window, ill be ****ing delighted tbh. He's a game winner and utd have missed this for some time. If you can get a player of Di Maria quality, you cant turn it down

    Could easily have said this about Mata in January.

    Style doesn't work without substance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    I am really shocked we havent signed De Jong, I cant think of a single reason why he wouldnt be a good fit for the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭onemorechance


    bullvine wrote: »
    I am really shocked we havent signed De Jong, I cant think of a single reason why he wouldnt be a good fit for the team.

    Because there is still more than an hour left in the transfer window! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭beno619



    They could well afford him, but the figures don't back up the myth of Jersey sales recouping major costs. It would require sponsor deals that would surprise me, as well as an argument the over a million people that would not have bought the kit, ended up buying it just because of the one purchase.

    I bought the myth apparently.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Relax, people....

    https://twitter.com/ManUtdChannel/statuses/502538421575770113

    We've got TC23 and we're giving him more wages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭twam2008


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Relax, people....

    https://twitter.com/ManUtdChannel/statuses/502538421575770113

    We've got TC23 and we're giving him more wages.

    Could we send him out on a permanent loan? One that doesn't involve paying his wages.


  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If LVG is persisting with a 3-5-2 then Di Maria is a waste, plain and simple. Kagawa already covers a WC player in Di Maria's position in it. Another RWB/RB like Cuadrado and a CM, ANY CM is what should close out the window, not spunking money for the sake of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭Rubber_Soul


    Liam O wrote: »
    If LVG is persisting with a 3-5-2 then Di Maria is a waste, plain and simple. Kagawa already covers a WC player in Di Maria's position in it. Another RWB/RB like Cuadrado and a CM, ANY CM is what should close out the window, not spunking money for the sake of it.

    He's already said he's only playing 352 because he doesn't have the players he needs for his favoured 433.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭Kagawa


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Relax, people....

    https://twitter.com/ManUtdChannel/statuses/502538421575770113

    We've got TC23 and we're giving him more wages.

    F**king Jesus Christ wept!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Cringe ^^^^^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Cleverley is 1 year away from being a free transfer isnt he? Well it makes sense to get him on a new contract. Nani did it and still got no games and went on loan. Chill. Doesn't mean Vidal isn't coming.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    If the level of player isn't available then surely you drop down to the next level.

    If Vidal isn't available, go for someone below him.

    Honestly, for all people want to make out we have a bunch of Sunday leaguers in our midfield, I would think we have plenty down on that level. What we need is significant improvement, not another settle job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭beno619


    Lads talk of this contract has been bandied about since the end of last season.

    It should come as no shock, hopefully a bit of cop on is shown by posters here when it's official, we have bigger issues right now without the TC23 hate posts.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Honestly, for all people want to make out we have a bunch of Sunday leaguers in our midfield, I would think we have plenty down on that level. What we need is significant improvement, not another settle job.

    Schneiderlen IMO would improve the United midfield and I'm sure would jump at the chance to move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭twam2008


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Honestly, for all people want to make out we have a bunch of Sunday leaguers in our midfield, I would think we have plenty down on that level. What we need is significant improvement, not another settle job.

    The other side of that is we shouldn't be spending summers chasing high profile signings, only to say they're not available, they don't want to come to Manchester etc. and ignore all the players out there who could improve our midfield. It hasn't worked for years now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Schneiderlen IMO would improve the United midfield and I'm sure would jump at the chance to move.

    Southampton have completely blocked him from leaving. Its a no go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,610 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    billyhead wrote: »
    Everyone knows he would not be the 1st choice player we should go after, but if Vidal is not available their are not many options out their apart from Strootman in January.

    There are dozens of midfielders that would improve the squad ,I don't see why people think it has to be Vidal or Strootman.

    I would love to see those players signed and Di Maria but there are plenty of players available that will improve United.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Schneiderlen IMO would improve the United midfield and I'm sure would jump at the chance to move.

    This the same player Southampton are pretty much refusing to sell right now? (which goes back to what I said earlier about players not being available). Its likely that we did ask and got the same reply other clubs have ("**** off", basically).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,000 ✭✭✭secman


    yabadabado wrote: »
    There are dozens of midfielders that would improve the squad ,I don't see why people think it has to be Vidal or Strootman.

    I would love to see those players signed and Di Maria but there are plenty of players available that will improve United.

    Name the dozens, curious as who they are, and if available.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭twam2008


    yabadabado wrote: »
    There are dozens of midfielders that would improve the squad ,I don't see why people think it has to be Vidal or Strootman.

    I would love to see those players signed and Di Maria but there are plenty of players available that will improve United.

    I also don't see why Strootman is easily available to us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    twam2008 wrote: »
    I also don't see why Strootman is easily available to us.

    That post doesn't say that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,259 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    twam2008 wrote: »
    I also don't see why Strootman is easily available to us.

    The chance to work under LVG at club level. United are obviously a much bigger club and not to mention a massive jump in wages. There are lots of reasons why he would like to join us. He could go on a strike/hissy fit to force a move like Rojo and submit a transfer request. Remember the players have lots of power nowadays and contracts are meaningless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭twam2008


    GSPfan wrote: »
    That post doesn't say that.

    No, but there seems to be a general consensus that Strootman will just stroll in January. It seems that Schneiderlin wants out and a serious offer should do it, worked with Rojo and all were fine with it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    This the same player Southampton are pretty much refusing to sell right now? (which goes back to what I said earlier about players not being available). Its likely that we did ask and got the same reply other clubs have ("**** off", basically).

    They were refusing to sell Lovren too, if a player wants the move he can get it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,610 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    secman wrote: »
    Name the dozens, curious as who they are, and if available.
    Do you not think there are dozens of CM's who would improve the squad if they were signed?
    My point is United shouldn't be just targeting Vidal and Strootman and their are plenty of players a level below who could do a good job.

    DeJong,Khedira,Lars/Swen Bender,Illarimendi,Song,Sandro,Schneiderlen,
    Carvalho,Veretti ,xhada are just a handful of players who would improve the squad.I.m not going to name 20+ players but I have seen plenty of all the players mentioned I would have no doubt they are an upgrade.

    EDIT:There was actually a list here last summer ,I think Mikey did it up, of players who could join United .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,930 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    He's already said he's only playing 352 because he doesn't have the players he needs for his favoured 433.

    I don't think di Maria really opens us up to other formations. We still wouldn't have the central midfield players.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭glued


    Not sure why we'd buy Di Maria without buying a top CM before the window shuts. Doesn't seem like we're going to get anymore players in anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    I haven't read the last page or 2 so have no idea where conversation has drifted off too but an observation I have is that the team is severely lacking in pace, making quick transitions and counter attacks less prevalent/ and or successful.

    I'd love if both Di Maria and Cuadrado were brought in. Just my hope not suggesting it likely, as well as a midfielder. Another CB wouldn't go amiss either but lets not lose the run of ourselves entirely :pac: How you accommodate the players is another story but the team needs pace and a bit of bite/nous in midfield. We have the players to unlock the doors and to score the goals but we need to add to that. I'm stating the obvious with all of the above I know.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,426 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Reedsie wrote: »
    Hindsight is wonderful. At the time most fans were happy to see him go for the money received.

    Any fan that was happy to see him go was an idiot. Best player bar none i've seen play.
    secman wrote: »
    Name the dozens, curious as who they are, and if available.

    There are easily dozens listed. Pick prety much any top 4-6 club in England, Spain, Germany, Italy, look at who starts in midfield. Will they improve our midfield. Yes.
    I haven't read the last page or 2 so have no idea where conversation has drifted off too but an observation I have is that the team is severely lacking in pace, making quick transitions and counter attacks less prevalent/ and or successful.

    I'd love if both Di Maria and Cuadrado were brought in. Just my hope not suggesting it likely, as well as a midfielder. Another CB wouldn't go amiss either but lets not lose the run of ourselves entirely :pac: How you accommodate the players is another story but the team needs pace and a bit of bite/nous in midfield. We have the players to unlock the doors and to score the goals but we need to add to that. I'm stating the obvious with all of the above I know.

    I'd be pissed off if they both came in. Still no midfielder or CB bought. Disaster if we don't get a CB and a CM this window.


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