Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

MagicIRL · 20-08-2014 11:31AM

Reedsie wrote: »

So we missed out on Muller, Reus Vermaelen and possibly Fabregas. If reports are to be believed.

Missed out on implies we're a loss as a result. This place nearly ****ing melted when we bid for Vermaelen.

Manutd_4life · 20-08-2014 11:32AM

Kagawa wrote: »

@skysports_bryan: As Marcos Rojo has medical, we're told Man Utd have yet to make a formal offer for any other player. 12 days to go. #mufc

Christ almighty!

God knows what takes woodward so long to start doing business. Likes to leave it late doesn't he

Alf Veedersane · 20-08-2014 11:32AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

and wouldnt be their biggest fans after signing, said players.

Veron - a flop because he was a square peg in a round hole
Heinze - wanted to leave.
Tevez - caused him as much trouble as any other player in recent memory if you don't include the other players who caused more trouble.

You might be right.

Reedsie · 20-08-2014 11:33AM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Missed out on implies we're a loss as a result. This place nearly ****ing melted when we bid for Vermaelen.

And people assumed that our second choice would somehow be better. :rolleyes:

RobertKK · 20-08-2014 11:33AM

This is from the Guardian earlier this year for anyone who still doubts the Muller story.

Manchester United are set for disappointment over Bayern Munich’s Thomas Müller, one of their prime summer transfer targets, with the attacking midfielder not minded to leave the German champions and the club not wanting to sell him.
There has also been a rowing back of interest from United in Barcelona’s Cesc Fábregas, with Louis van Gaal also ending the club’s pursuit of Toni Kroos, Müller’s Bayern team-mate.

Jamie Jackson on the Guardian last May. One cannot argue that was not spot on.

RayCun · 20-08-2014 11:34AM

Reedsie wrote: »

And people assumed that our second choice would somehow be better. :rolleyes:

He's fit to play this weekend so he's already ahead of the game

bangkok · 20-08-2014 11:34AM

beno619 wrote: »

I think Fergie fecked that one up tbh, he had just spent big on Berba and probably couldn't justify the fee for Tevez.

I would have preferred we kept him but what's done is done.

how did fergie ferck that up? utd had already paid a 10m loan fee and city then signed tevez for a fee of 48m and all of that went to Kia Joorabchian!!

MagicIRL · 20-08-2014 11:34AM

Reedsie wrote: »

And people assumed that our second choice would somehow be better. :rolleyes:

Our second choice that's been in negotiations since the WC ended? Do you believe everything you read? Rolls eyes for good measure too. Christ Almighty.

Coat22 · 20-08-2014 11:35AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

and wouldnt be their biggest fans after signing, said players.

Veron - a flop
Heinze - wanted to leave for Liverpool.
Tevez - caused him as much trouble as any other player in recent memory.

Veron – was a flop once he came to United – was great at Lazio – hardly a flop because he was Argentinian
Heinze – was kinda f*cked over by Fergie and can’t blame him wanting to move to a club where he’d get a game.
Tevez – agree. Waster.

But this Argentinian crap – would we be saying the same if we bought Messi (or Di Maria or Aguero)??

RobertKK · 20-08-2014 11:36AM

Reedsie wrote: »

So we missed out on Muller, Reus, Vermaelen and possibly Fabregas. If reports are to be believed.

Muller, Reus and Vermaelen were targets, but Fabregas was not and neither was Kroos, both of whom LVG didn't want.

Reedsie · 20-08-2014 11:36AM

RayCun wrote: »

He's fit to play this weekend so he's already ahead of the game

lol

advertsfox · 20-08-2014 11:38AM

https://twitter.com/skysports_bryan/status/502052901179891712

beno619 · 20-08-2014 11:39AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Tevez - caused him as much trouble as any other player in recent memory.

I honestly cant rememberer any of this trouble he supposedly caused, I remember him being quite professional about being dropped for Berba and scored huge goals in his last season. He may have thrown his pram outta the bag when he realised Fergie wasnt going to make the transfer permanent which is fairly understandable.

beno619 · 20-08-2014 11:41AM

bangkok wrote: »

how did fergie ferck that up? utd had already paid a 10m loan fee and city then signed tevez for a fee of 48m and all of that went to Kia Joorabchian!!

He picked Tevez over Berba, this is all personal opinion but I would have preferred Tevez.

mufcboy1999 · 20-08-2014 11:41AM

is woodward untouchable by the media ? is he that hard to find and interview because he really needs to start telling us what's happening.. he's disappeared since the mutv interview last month.

kryogen · 20-08-2014 11:42AM

Manutd_4life wrote: »

God knows what takes woodward so long to start doing business. Likes to leave it late doesn't he

It is pretty clear that the Herrera deal had been mainly sorted out while the season was still ongoing last year, same with Shaw and Rojo said that negotiations began during the world cup.

There is surely enough sticks to beat him with without needing to make **** up isnt there?

Reedsie · 20-08-2014 11:42AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Muller, Reus and Vermaelen were targets, but Fabregas was not and neither was Kroos, both of whom LVG didn't want.

Depends on which reports you read. Some believe it was better for Man Utd to say they didn't want the player as opposed to the player didn't want us.
But yeah we might never know. I'm sure there are other players we know nothing about.

Shame to be missing out on the big names though. Tough summer for sure.

Mr.Prodston · 20-08-2014 11:42AM

advertsfox wrote: »

https://twitter.com/skysports_bryan/status/502052901179891712

Just because the media haven't been told about bids doesn't mean bids haven't been made.

It was RojOFF 30 minutes before it was RojON yesterday according to some.

MagicMarker · 20-08-2014 11:45AM

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

is he that hard to find and interview because he really needs to start telling us what's happening..

He doesn't NEED to tell us anything ffs.

Adamocovic · 20-08-2014 11:45AM

Don't buy into this idea that just because Rojo is an Argentine that he will turn out like other Argentines we've bought.
Bit of a silly argument in my view. Depends on the players attitude and work rate, not his nationality.

MagicIRL · 20-08-2014 11:45AM

The media haven't a notion. That's been shown time and time again and yet people will believe anything that's written it seems.

MagicMarker · 20-08-2014 11:47AM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I can't believe that people are questioning whether we've had bad experiences with Argentinian players...

- Veron...universally acclaimed as one of United's worst signings ever

- Heinze...tried to force a move to Liverpool and left under a cloud

- Tevez...left under a cloud and has caused trouble anywhere he's been

Replace Argentinian with Black and you'll realise how pointless and utterly stupid your post is.

Nemanrio · 20-08-2014 11:48AM

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/10606025_503256376444258_2138877568735335110_n.jpg?oh=fcbc00eda3e54fe25f5fc285af73b629&oe=5475B8A9

kryogen · 20-08-2014 11:48AM

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

is woodward untouchable by the media ? is he that hard to find and interview because he really needs to start telling us what's happening.. he's disappeared since the mutv interview last month.

lol, if anything Woodie should actually not be let anywhere near tv cameras!

He doesnt need to tell you anything.

Julez · 20-08-2014 11:49AM

Adamocovic wrote: »

Don't buy into this idea that just because Rojo is an Argentine that he will turn out like other Argentines we've bought.
Bit of a silly argument in my view. Depends on the players attitude and work rate, not his nationality.

He appears to have black hair, he may also be like all the other black haired players we had!

beno619 · 20-08-2014 11:50AM

I find it hilarious that weve been talking to Rojo since the World Cup and not a single story was written until last week after he followed United players.

The press don't have a clue, we could be talking to Vidal and a dozen other targets or not but nobody has a clue.

homerjay2005 · 20-08-2014 11:51AM

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

is woodward untouchable by the media ? is he that hard to find and interview because he really needs to start telling us what's happening.. he's disappeared since the mutv interview last month.

you mean, they cant get near him? most CEO's stay out of media...id struggle to be able to name more than 2 or 3 more CEOs in the PL and thats only because they are loopers.

if you mean they dont want to write about him, he is getting a serious amount of stick last few months. in fact, i doubt there is any man in the spotlight as much as him right now, who is not involved on the front line.

bucketybuck · 20-08-2014 11:56AM

beno619 wrote: »

I honestly cant rememberer any of this trouble he supposedly caused

Because there was none, the rumors about his future were surrounding Tevez right up until the last day of the season and he said nothing except how much he loved the club and the fans and he wanted to stay. People are conflating his actions after he left the club with his actions at the club, he was a model pro when he was a United player.

beno619 wrote: »

I find it hilarious that weve been talking to Rojo since the World Cup and not a single story was written until last week after he followed United players.

I find it hilarious that we were talking to a player who was clearly very keen to join us and it still took us a full month to actually submit a bid. Guess deals can't be done in 24 hours after all.

Nalz · 20-08-2014 11:57AM

Are Sporting covering any of Nani's wages?

Adamocovic · 20-08-2014 11:58AM

I'm not too confident of any other signings before the end of the week. I think we might get one more in before the end of the window, but will it be any of the big names people have been wanting? Hard to tell.

Hopefully we will have the likes of Evans, Rafael, RvP and Welbeck fit for the weekend.

Also did anyone else hear that Fellaini got injured today? Briefly heard on the radio he may have ankle problems and was spotted in crutches, ligaments is what was mentioned. Don't know how true it is but wouldn't be ideal to say the least!

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

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