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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Thomas Muller has confirmed he turned down a huge money move to United.


    http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/thomas-muller-why-i-turned-down-astronomical-offer-from-man-united-30523192.html

    He said the figures talked about were "astronomical" and he would have got a pay rise, but Bayern is his club and he didn't want to move.

    There is absolutely nothing in that article to suggest United were involved at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    Agree Benos post. Veron would be a brilliant player in today's game but football at that time involved a lot of atacks going back to front at pace which didn't suit him. Heinze was brilliant for us despite being a headcase at times. Tevez, despite whatever he did off the field was also brilliant and an important part of us winning a CL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    From the Metro....
    And speaking about United for the first time, Muller says he did have an offer to move to Old Trafford, but says he never seriously considered departing Bayern.
    ‘Of course,’ he told Bild when asked if United were close to signing him.

    ‘I was aware that I could earn more by making that transfer.

    ‘The amount that foreign clubs were offering me was astronomical. But Bayern are my club, a change was not an issue for me.’


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    I think we can discount alot of past experiences at the club since the main personality involved, Fergie, is no longer in charge.

    It's more relevent to look at Van Gaal's past experiences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,210 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Barcelona's transfer ban has been upheld. Can't sign players in the next two windows. MIght actually help us at some point.

    Upheld? Unless they are made to give back all the players they signed then upheld isn't the word I would use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Thomas Muller has confirmed he turned down a huge money move to United.


    http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/thomas-muller-why-i-turned-down-astronomical-offer-from-man-united-30523192.html

    He said the figures talked about were "astronomical" and he would have got a pay rise, but Bayern is his club and he didn't want to move.

    hmmmm, he didn't mention Utd at all in those quotes. Rentastory.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    I can't believe that people are questioning whether we've had bad experiences with Argentinian players...

    - Veron...universally acclaimed as one of United's worst signings ever

    - Heinze...tried to force a move to Liverpool and left under a cloud

    - Tevez...left under a cloud and has caused trouble anywhere he's been


    Heinze was an absolute beast for us. So what he wanted to go to Liverpool and what is it to you or me? It was step down for him as Liverpool were not challenging at the time. Maybe he liked the area, maybe he was guaranteed first team football, something that United were unwilling to do?

    As for Tevez, another great player who found himself out of favor. While he wore a United shirt, he again gave everything for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭beno619


    RobertKK wrote: »
    From the Metro....

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    I had very fond memories of Heinze. A tough battling left back that I just really liked. INjuries aside, thought he was a good player for us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    MagicIRL wrote: »
    I feel like I'm the only poster who hasn't a clue who Rojo is

    very few people know alot about Rojo, which is why i find it strange that some people are so happy with the deal. likewise its strange to see people completely writing him off.

    its very much a case of wait and see - its a signing that nobody would have predicted one month ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭Your Airbag


    So FIFA have rejected the appeal and officially banned Barca from transfers until 2016. The ban starts January 2015.

    Now watch Barca snap up eveybody in the next couple of weeks :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭beno619


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I had very fond memories of Heinze. A tough battling left back that I just really liked. INjuries aside, thought he was a good player for us

    Good is an understatement, he was an absolute beast its only that Evra went on to be the best Left Back in the world that his stock took a dip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    I can't believe that people are questioning whether we've had bad experiences with Argentinian players...

    - Veron...universally acclaimed as one of United's worst signings ever

    - Heinze...tried to force a move to Liverpool and left under a cloud

    - Tevez...left under a cloud and has caused trouble anywhere he's been

    I have to call you out on this. After reading this post it's clear you were not watching united play until recently.
    Veron was one of the best midfielders in the world. He didn't fit in uniteds team, but that happens from time to time. Not really anyone's fault.
    Heinze was a fantastic player for United!!
    Tevez gave 100% for United, but fergie wanted him gone - probably because the union man that he is didn't like the legal situation surrounding the player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,210 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I had very fond memories of Heinze. A tough battling left back that I just really liked. INjuries aside, thought he was a good player for us

    He was superb for us, really surprised that any United fan could think otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,845 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Heinze was also the club player of the year in his first season.

    The chants of Ar-gen-tina arount OT suggest that there's probably only 1 person who has an issue with United signing Argentinian players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Ah Tevez, with his bulldog like approach...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    There is absolutely nothing in that article to suggest United were involved at all.
    PaulieC wrote: »
    hmmmm, he didn't mention Utd at all in those quotes. Rentastory.
    beno619 wrote: »
    :rolleyes:


    From the Daily Mail
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2729682/Thomas-Muller-reveals-Manchester-United-bid-summer-insists-leaving-Bayern-Munich-never-option.html

    From Sky Sports
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11881/9431150/transfer-news-thomas-muller-rejected-approach-from-manchester-united

    From the Independent (UK)
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-united-transfer-news-louis-van-gaal-tried-and-failed-to-sign-german-stars-thomas-muller-and-marco-reus-this-summer-9680611.html

    I could go on, but I know what I am posting is fact, so stop doubting me, Thomas...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005



    The chants of Ar-gen-tina arount OT suggest that there's probably only 1 person who has an issue with United signing Argentinian players.

    Ferguson?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Heinze went downhill a lot in his last season, but I think he was voted Player of the Year the previous two? (IIRC the team was poor overall at that point)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,845 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Ferguson?

    The man who signed said Argentinians?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    very few people know alot about Rojo, which is why i find it strange that some people are so happy with the deal. likewise its strange to see people completely writing him off.

    its very much a case of wait and see - its a signing that nobody would have predicted one month ago.

    very similar in the way we signed Vida and Evra. Realistically they were not known to the masses and look how both turned out. Give the bloke a chance before writing him off ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,845 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    RayCun wrote: »
    Heinze went downhill a lot in his last season, but I think he was voted Player of the Year the previous two? (IIRC the team was poor overall at that point)

    The bad ankle injury that ruled him out for most of his second season left him with no pace at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭Ordinary man


    It's already looking like another hard season ahead after last week. A win was badly needed to get belief going again for both players and supporters. Even during the game the players looked nervous and afraid of making mistakes. They know they're under the microscope with the supporters and every mistake is magnified. Smalling, jones, blackett etc won't improve unless they play every week. But a lot of supporters have written them all off already.
    I believe confidence is a huge part of successful players, some have it naturally and some lose it easily. Some players just had that cocky way about them - cantona, keane, vidic , they lifted the team and the crowd as soon as they walked out. This is what united are missing now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    barca had already done most of their transfer business. Unreal corrupt club and in bed with FIFA. the whole messi/fifa situation is a joke as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭beno619


    Tevez gave 100% for United, but fergie wanted him gone - probably because the union man that he is didn't like the legal situation surrounding the player.

    I think Fergie fecked that one up tbh, he had just spent big on Berba and probably couldn't justify the fee for Tevez.

    I would have preferred we kept him but what's done is done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The quotes don't mention it, the ad-libbing makes it look like he's talking about United.


    They quoted Muller, saying how he answered a question about United making an offer for him.

    It was reported earlier in the summer that Muller had turned down Van Gaal who wanted him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭Kagawa


    @skysports_bryan: As Marcos Rojo has medical, we're told Man Utd have yet to make a formal offer for any other player. 12 days to go. #mufc

    Christ almighty!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    The man who signed said Argentinians?

    and wouldnt be their biggest fans after signing, said players.

    Veron - a flop
    Heinze - wanted to leave for Liverpool.
    Tevez - caused him as much trouble as any other player in recent memory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭Reedsie


    So we missed out on Muller, Reus, Vermaelen and possibly Fabregas. If reports are to be believed.


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