Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

GSPfan · 19-08-2014 11:26PM

I would love to see DiMaria and Vidal or whoever coming in but ultimately we will need to let go of players and Kagawa and Hernandez are sore thumbs.

This is my fantasy line up at the moment. Evans sneaks in with no other real option.

DeGea
Raf Jones Evans Shaw
Herrera Mata Vidal
Adnan Rooney DiMaria

homerjay2005 · 19-08-2014 11:29PM

GSPfan wrote: »

I would love to see DiMaria and Vidal or whoever coming in but ultimately we will need to let go of players and Kagawa and Hernandez are sore thumbs.

This is my fantasy line up at the moment. Evans sneaks in with no other real option.

DeGea
Raf Jones Evans Shaw
Herrera Mata Vidal
Adnan Rooney DiMaria

so you dont rate Rojo then?

and what about RVP?

Maximus Alexander · 19-08-2014 11:31PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so you dont rate Rojo then?

and what about RVP?

Nothing there to say he doesn't rate Rojo, just that he rates Evans and Shaw higher. Or, like plenty of us, doesn't know a whole lot about Rojo outside of a handful of WC matches where he wasn't being paid special attention.

Insect Overlord · 19-08-2014 11:35PM

I forgot to subscribe to this thread after the previous one was locked. Ain't nobody got time to read ~1,600 new posts.

Who wants to summarise all the news I've missed since Sunday night? :P

Montroseee · 19-08-2014 11:35PM

Does Rojo have a child? 24 is very young...

Copper_pipe · 19-08-2014 11:36PM

Late night medical?
https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/501871511469580289

Rayne Wooney · 19-08-2014 11:38PM

An File wrote: »

I forgot to subscribe to this thread after the previous one was locked. Ain't nobody got time to read ~1,600 new posts.

Who wants to summarise all the news I've missed since Sunday night? :P

We signed a Russian wonderkid Dimitry Arturonoff

Chagan · 19-08-2014 11:39PM

GSPfan wrote: »

I would love to see DiMaria and Vidal or whoever coming in but ultimately we will need to let go of players and Kagawa and Hernandez are sore thumbs.

This is my fantasy line up at the moment. Evans sneaks in with no other real option.

DeGea
Raf Jones Evans Shaw
Herrera Mata Vidal
Adnan Rooney DiMaria

That would be a great XI but I love that your "fantasy" line up includes Evans because of a lack of options.

Fantasy Woodward might be better than the real one, but he isn't a miracle worker :pac:

GSPfan · 19-08-2014 11:57PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so you dont rate Rojo then?

and what about RVP?

Yeah honestly don't have a clue about him like most people.

RvP will get games beside Rooney in the 3 4 3 system or whatever variation of that you wanna call it but in a typical 4 3 3 with two pacey wide men either side of a front man I would go with Rooney to start. He is captain after all.

The RvP Rooney dilemma will work itself out with both picking up regular knocks and strains anyway.

GSPfan · 20-08-2014 12:00AM

Chagan wrote: »

That would be a great XI but I love that your "fantasy" line up includes Evans because of a lack of options.

Fantasy Woodward might be better than the real one, but he isn't a miracle worker :pac:

Ha yeah i know. It is a fantasy team but based on current transfer rumours. The centre back options seem to have dried up.

kryogen · 20-08-2014 12:00AM

GSPfan wrote: »

I would love to see DiMaria and Vidal or whoever coming in but ultimately we will need to let go of players and Kagawa and Hernandez are sore thumbs.

This is my fantasy line up at the moment. Evans sneaks in with no other real option.

DeGea
Raf Jones Evans Shaw
Herrera Mata Vidal
Adnan Rooney DiMaria

I like it, with the likes of Smalling, RVP, Kagawa, Welbeck etc to rotate in and out.

Don't understand why people get hung up on "dropping" people like Rooney/Mata/RVP or whoever, its not like there isn't going to be enough games to go around, there will be injuries/suspensions and stuff like that too so having good options in the squad is hardly ever a bad thing.

GSPfan · 20-08-2014 12:07AM

kryogen wrote: »

I like it, with the likes of Smalling, RVP, Kagawa, Welbeck etc to rotate in and out.

Don't understand why people get hung up on "dropping" people like Rooney/Mata/RVP or whoever, its not like there isn't going to be enough games to go around, there will be injuries/suspensions and stuff like that too so having good options in the squad is hardly ever a bad thing.

100% agreed. We get stuck multiple times a year with no centre backs and Welbeck leading the line up front due to injuries so the idea of being dropped just doesn't become an issue as much as people would think.

I think Kagawa could go though. I just don't see him ever being any better than he is now for United. I'd keep Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverley(i know) for back up for the midfield 3. Fellaini unfortunately would probably be gone in this fantasy too.

TheTownie · 20-08-2014 12:29AM

Welcome to the new show...

kryogen · 20-08-2014 01:01AM

Could be very good for Nani, familiar club, home country, he will be the main man you would think, should light up the league with his ability and generate some good interest in him from other clubs or even force his way back into the reckoning at United as unlikely as that will be

Pro. F · 20-08-2014 01:24AM

I don't agree with the idea that there's enough games to go round and that that solves the problems of benching players. The way I see it, there's a few significant problems.

- If RvP and Rooney shared the games between them then you would only get half a season out of each. That's a poor return for the money being spent on them.

- If you want to get the best out of a player then you play them most games and you show faith in them. Competition is good and they'll need to be rested at times, but playing the position by committee isn't going to conducive to building the best form.

- (Biggest issue imo) You do still have to chose which player is the first choice, and that becomes immediately apparent when you play the big games. Even though it would be nice to have a world class player as a back-up, most world class players won't accept being anything other than first choice. They don't need to.

Fergie was great for managing to keep four strikers happy a lot of the time, but he nearly always used lads who had something to prove as the back-ups. Neither of Rooney or RvP are in that position. So they'll just get pissed off, rather than fired up, when sitting on the bench.

Rayne Wooney · 20-08-2014 01:26AM

I don't think it was mentioned in here, but the Atletico president let slip that Reus turned down a big money move to us

That story that he was píssed after Barca signed Suarez because he turned down a move to us already is probably true

I'd say he's off the Bayern next summer, unless we win the league which is fairly unlikely at the moment

KombuchaMshroom · 20-08-2014 01:54AM

It's very hard to be happy about Nani leaving when Valencia and Young are still at the club

J. Marston · 20-08-2014 01:59AM

TheTownie wrote: »

Welcome to the new show...

What a sweet deal for Nani. Guaranteed first team football with his home club, who are playing in the Champions League and it's not a permanent move so he doesn't have to take a pay cut and even though he's been crap for us for God knows how long, he's still probably good enough to tear up the Portuguese League.

basillarkin · 20-08-2014 03:40AM

Not a UTD fan but if ye are going to play one up top surely it has to be RVP. A better player than rooney, had a better wc and he would be my choice to lead the line

Hank Scorpio · 20-08-2014 04:09AM

Surprised Nani went the other way, reeks of desperation for me. Still need 3 more signings but knows (cb,cm,wing)

Coat22 · 20-08-2014 06:15AM

Delighted Nani has moved on - VG starting to move on the dead wood.

Hopefully Cleverly and Anderson not too far behind.

20-08-2014 06:17AM

Never thought Nani was deadwood. He'll do well at Sporting.
Definitely other players that should be moved on ahead of him anyway.

beno619 · 20-08-2014 06:58AM

basillarkin wrote: »

Not a UTD fan but if ye are going to play one up top surely it has to be RVP. A better player than rooney, had a better wc and he would be my choice to lead the line

Last season he was far superior to RVP.
He is club captain and had a pre season, as things stand he's very much first choice.

Larry Wildman · 20-08-2014 07:00AM

Montroseee wrote: »

Does Rojo have a child? 24 is very young...

Not really...my understanding is that Raheem Sterling has three...with different women!

8-10 · 20-08-2014 07:13AM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Not really...my understanding is that Raheem Sterling has three...with different women!

Your understanding would be wrong, he just has a daughter

buckfasterer · 20-08-2014 07:16AM

Don't understand the Nani love here. The lad is inconsistent at very best and been stealing a living for years, even Fergie seen that at the end of his tenure.

Alf Veedersane · 20-08-2014 07:18AM

buckfasterer wrote: »

Don't understand the Nani love here. The lad is inconsistent at very best and been stealing a living for years, even Fergie seen that at the end of his tenure.

It's not so much a Nani love-in but an acknowledgement of the fact that there are a few players that are of less value as a player to United that are still in the ranks.

secman · 20-08-2014 07:20AM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It's not so much a Nani love-in but an acknowledgement of the fact that there are a few players that are of less value as a player to United that are still in the ranks.

Apparently we can't get rid of them all together so it will by piece meal, unfortunately we have a lot of players who are not good enough.

Lord TSC · 20-08-2014 07:21AM

Whil i do want Young and Val off too, I think the problem could be that both are seen as being capable of covering defensive positions; Valencia has played right back often and Young was LB on preseason. Nani couldn't do that; his secondary position was ones we are overstocked in already.

Would hope that if, for instance, we got Cuadardo, Valencia would be moved on. young will likely stay at least this season to provide backup cover at the wing backs.

Alf Veedersane · 20-08-2014 07:24AM

secman wrote: »

Apparently we can't get rid of them all together so it will by piece meal, unfortunately we have a lot of players who are not good enough.

Oh I know and it doesn't work out that you get rid of players in order of how bad they are.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

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