Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

twam2008 · 19-08-2014 06:42PM

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Fernandez? If he's gone to Swansea as reported it will be interesting to see how he adapts to the league. They are getting him for cheap but if we signed him i bet another couple of million would be added to his price.

You can be sure of it.

Adamocovic · 19-08-2014 06:42PM

I expect Rafael to be selected this week, did VG not say he was fit last week? Maybe just didn't want to rush him back.

The_Kew_Tour · 19-08-2014 06:42PM

Very meheish about whole thing.

Nani was not a player I wanted to see gone even if on loan.

Lucas Hood · 19-08-2014 06:43PM

I doubt we'll ever see Nani in a United shirt again. It's very rare for a player of his age/stature to go out on loan and then come back and make a contribution to the team.

GSPfan · 19-08-2014 06:45PM

I'm not sayin a word about Rojo till we see him play. Seems like a lot of players regress when they join United. Only the few true superstars seem to do well.

Look at Jaime Jacksons twitter. He is getting murdered. Its so funny. I hope this is yet another lesson for everyone that these guys are gossip columnists.

Lucas Hood · 19-08-2014 06:45PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

He broke this Rojo deal iirc or was very close to being the first to report it. I think it's anything he's posted about on Twitter has actually gone through.

I think you're getting mixed up Benatia. Just checked his twitter and I can't see him mentioning Rojo at all.

Kylo Ren · 19-08-2014 06:46PM

My reaction to all of this.

DM_7 · 19-08-2014 06:46PM

adox wrote: »

But we haven't sold a winger. We given him to another club as a present for a year. Free of charge.

I think United have plenty of cash going by Woodwards bravado, so they should not need to sell Nani to raise funds to buy more players.

If Van Gaal wants a smaller squad this season and United don't need money then its probably no harm loaning him out.

Nani wouldn't be on loan on Van Gaal had any intention of using him on a regular basis. I like Nani, a lot, but he has not played regularly for a long time and I actually think he needs to go and play ball somewhere like Sporting.

If United do what they should in the league this season Nani can be brought back when he would get more game time and on the back of playing regular football or sold on for a good fee.

The_Kew_Tour · 19-08-2014 06:47PM

What did Jackson say?

beno619 · 19-08-2014 06:47PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Yeah he is fat..

http://instagram.com/p/r487jQwBrc/

Ando fat jokes are about as funny as John Terry party crashing pics.

cdb · 19-08-2014 06:47PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

He broke this Rojo deal iirc or was very close to being the first to report it. I think it's anything he's posted about on Twitter has actually gone through.

He was on the money with Rojo alright so might be something in it.
Check Sky Sports transfer centre at 18:50. Not much else at the minute.

http://www1.skysports.com/common/ajax/mobileScribbleContent/47088

J. Marston · 19-08-2014 06:48PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Very meheish about whole thing.

Nani was not a player I wanted to see gone even if on loan.

I feel the same. Rojo seems like another body to throw to the front lines rather than the tank or fighter jet we needed.

I'm not good with analogies so just consider Vidal to be a tank and Di Maria to be a fighter jet.

GSPfan · 19-08-2014 06:48PM

Someone please set up a Sporting Superthread and bring the Nani debates over there. It'll reach 10,000 posts faster than most other team threads.

Chagan · 19-08-2014 06:49PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Yeah he is fat..

http://instagram.com/p/r487jQwBrc/

He nominated Fergie

I'm still waiting for someone to call out Van Gaal.

tupac_healy wrote: »

The only reasoning I could come up with would be that there may have been a club interested in him, a lot of Juve talk at the time and him tied to a longer contract may have strengthened our postion when thrashing out a deal???

Other thatmb that HIGHLY UNLIKELY scenario, I can't for the life of me fathom a reason.....

So we'll give him massive wages for the next 5 years? Juve were probably only interested in him because he would have been a cheap, low risk option. Extend it for another 1/2 years by all means if we were looking to sell.

Giggsy11 · 19-08-2014 06:51PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What did Jackson say?

Posted this after Sporting confirmed the deal.

jamie jackson @JamieJackson___ · 47m

Have just spoken with #mufc re Rojo from Sporting Lisbon who are clear the deal is still not done, though "inching closer".

30 mins later.
Manchester United @ManUtd · 12m

#mufc has reached agreement with Sporting Lisbon to sign defender Marcos Rojo, subject to a medical and personal terms.

Nolars · 19-08-2014 06:51PM

GSPfan wrote: »

Someone please set up a Sporting Superthread and bring the Nani debates over there. It'll reach 10,000 posts faster than most other team threads.

A new defender and no Nani talk for the season yes.

Adamocovic · 19-08-2014 06:51PM

I know all I've seen of Rojo is with Argentina but if he's good enough to make the World Cup squad and play in every game including the final, surely he has to be a good inclusion to the team.

Lovely Bloke · 19-08-2014 06:52PM

are the CLQR second legs next week?

Maybe there's a player or two playing in these games waiting to see if his team goes through or not before deciding himself if he wants to transfer.

brinty · 19-08-2014 06:55PM

Looked it's good to see a signing in a position we need
But there's plenty more required
Still need a midfield general and another CB

I'll be saving the Upton/Johannesen/Lawrence/Kendrick gifs for the time being

19-08-2014 06:58PM

Nolars wrote: »

A new defender and no Nani talk for the season yes.

Oh don't worry, there will be PLENTY of Nani talk.

billyhead · 19-08-2014 07:00PM

J. Marston wrote: »

I feel the same. Rojo seems like another body to throw to the front lines rather than the tank or fighter jet we needed.

I'm not good with analogies so just consider Vidal to be a tank and Di Maria to be a fighter jet.

I saw all of the Argies game sin the WC and hes a decent defender nothing spectacular. Hs left footed so can play either left back or left center back and therefore can play on the left of LVGs preferred back 3. Hes a good passer and is not afraid to put the tackles in and can also is not afraid to shoot as he scored a goal in one of their games. I would not be convinced that its a good signing however. He could be a complete flop. TBH I doubt he would start for the likes of Chelsea, Real, Barca or Bayern or any other big club.

Headshot · 19-08-2014 07:01PM

Im very mixed about Rojo signing. I would be still worried about our defence

Al Capwned · 19-08-2014 07:01PM

Liam O wrote: »

Oh don't worry, there will be PLENTY of Nani talk.

Wait till he scores a worldie and sets up three in his first game.....
Have faith.

DM_7 · 19-08-2014 07:06PM

Jackson is probably on the tell him nothing useful list after his move into ****ty opinion pieces yesterday.

kryogen · 19-08-2014 07:09PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

He broke this Rojo deal iirc or was very close to being the first to report it. I think it's anything he's posted about on Twitter has actually gone through.

Wouldn't be so sure, he also broke Benatia to United on twitter, flying in the other night he was

IrishIrish · 19-08-2014 07:09PM

billyhead wrote: »

I saw all of the Argies game sin the WC and hes a decent defender nothing spectacular. Hs left footed so can play either left back or left center back and therefore can play on the left of LVGs preferred back 3. Hes a good passer and is not afraid to put the tackles in and can also is not afraid to shoot as he scored a goal in one of their games. I would not be convinced that its a good signing however. He could be a complete flop. TBH I doubt he would start for the likes of Chelsea, Real, Barca or Bayern or any other big club.

If the WC games are all you've seen of him then you know nothing about him. It's not as if you watched the games paying a particular focus to Rojo so you could get a much better idea about him. His goal in the WC came from a corner (possibly a freekick, can't remember) so shows very little about whether he likes a shot or not.

Also.... IF Chelsea, Real, Barca or Bayern had announced the signing of a 24 year old CB who can also play LB and LWB and already played in a WC Final and only cost €20m, half this board would be going crazy that united had missed out 'AGAIN!!'

The Moldy Gowl · 19-08-2014 07:13PM

MisterAnarchy · 19-08-2014 07:16PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

I know all I've seen of Rojo is with Argentina but if he's good enough to make the World Cup squad and play in every game including the final, surely he has to be a good inclusion to the team.

Argentina did play with two holding midfielders during the World cup ,Mascherano was almost a third centre back providing alot of cover so not sure was Rojo really tested.

I know Eamon Dunphy wasn't overly impressed by Rojo ,said he was good going forward but couldn't defend to save his life .
Then again Eamon did say that apart from Messi the rest of the Argentinian team were useless.

twam2008 · 19-08-2014 07:18PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Argentina did play with two holding midfielders during the World cup ,Mascherano was almost a third centre back providing alot of cover so not sure was Rojo really tested.

I know Eamon Dunphy wasn't overly impressed by Rojo ,said he was good going forward but couldn't defend to save his life .

Surely if Dunphy doesn't like him that's a good sign.

ShoulderChip · 19-08-2014 07:18PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

I know all I've seen of Rojo is with Argentina but if he's good enough to make the World Cup squad and play in every game including the final, surely he has to be a good inclusion to the team.

Exactly! It worked for Kleberson:P

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

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