Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

The_Kew_Tour · 19-08-2014 01:29PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

I reckon this is the team Lvg wants
de Gea
Raf
Evans --benaita
shaw
Herrera
strootman
Cuadrado
mata
dimaria
Rvp or Rooney

If I see that team out this season for United I will make love to a sheep.:P

Mitch Connor · 19-08-2014 01:29PM

kryogen wrote: »

You haven't just handed over 750million yet, so that would be ok so far

Also, I would think you would be happy to see how the season goes, thinking with players like Rooney, RVP, Mata, Kagawa etc in the squad that jersey and merch sales will probably stay quite healthy and if the club don't reach the target of CL football you will not even have to spend the 75million a year to have your name on the stuff.

As long as there are a few big name stars they will be quite happy, star studded teams not necessary. The club will need to replenish good players anyway for its own sake

As far as I know, it would only drop after the second season out of the CL under their contract - so that is a few years away, worse case scenario. Also, I think it only drops by 20million - so it would still be a record fee they are paying us, regardless of CL. They will want some bang for their buck.

magnumbud · 19-08-2014 01:30PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

I reckon this is the team Lvg wants
de Gea
Raf
Evans --benaita
shaw
Herrera
strootman
Cuadrado
mata
dimaria
Rvp or Rooney

id say more this

de Gea

Raf

Evans --benaita

shaw

strootman

----Herrera

dimaria

mata

Rvp----Rooney

RasTa · 19-08-2014 01:30PM

Should the twitter links people are posting be embedded?

kryogen · 19-08-2014 01:35PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

As far as I know, it would only drop after the second season out of the CL under their contract - so that is a few years away, worse case scenario. Also, I think it only drops by 20million - so it would still be a record fee they are paying us, regardless of CL. They will want some bang for their buck.

Could have sworn I read some other drops if targets are not met but cant check right now. They will get bang for their buck unless total disaster happens I would be willing to bet, the shirt and merch sales are incredible each year and that would take a few years to peter down. You would hope the club will not let a slide into mediocrity occur.

If things look bad next summer I will start to worry, but can't say I am concerned right now. I have faith in LvG to succeed. I was willing to give Moyes time even though I am on record as never supporting the appointment, but this is a different feeling, one of faith in a managers ability to do it with a top club. I am relaxed right now.

Alf Veedersane · 19-08-2014 01:39PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

As far as I know, it would only drop after the second season out of the CL under their contract - so that is a few years away, worse case scenario. Also, I think it only drops by 20million - so it would still be a record fee they are paying us, regardless of CL. They will want some bang for their buck.

It drops by 30% if United fail to qualify for the CL for two consecutive seasons but even if United don't qualify this season, they still have the comfort of another season of mediocrity because the Adidias contract doesn't kick in until the start of next season. So once they finish in the top 4 by the end of the 2016/2017 season, they're fine.

The only other reduction is if they are relegated.

They'll get a £4 million bonus if they win the PL, FA Cup or CL.

shadowcomplex · 19-08-2014 01:39PM

magnumbud wrote: »

id say more this
de Gea
Raf
Evans --benaita
shaw
strootman
----Herrera
dimaria
mata
Rvp----Rooney

I think the forward 3 are too narrow and also lack pace , I suppose you could say dimaria could change positions on the break but a traditional 433 works best with one central striker and a pacey winger type striker on either side ala robben or Sanchez

KH25 · 19-08-2014 01:40PM

What I'd give for a signing now. I don't like this silence. I'm not counting Rojo.

Mitch Connor · 19-08-2014 01:42PM

kryogen wrote: »

Could have sworn I read some other drops if targets are not met but cant check right now. They will get bang for their buck unless total disaster happens I would be willing to bet, the shirt and merch sales are incredible each year and that would take a few years to peter down. You would hope the club will not let a slide into mediocrity occur.

If things look bad next summer I will start to worry, but can't say I am concerned right now. I have faith in LvG to succeed. I was willing to give Moyes time even though I am on record as never supporting the appointment, but this is a different feeling, one of faith in a managers ability to do it with a top club. I am relaxed right now.

I think LVG is a top manager, and a great appointment.

I don't think he is a miracle worker though - the squad is dogsh1te, and if it isn't improved we are going to be 6th or so again this season, imo.

He needs to add another centre back (assuming Rojo is a done deal) and a combative central midfielder, at the very least. Without those two signings, we are fooked.

I was told Woodward is trying to do a deal for one CM player at the moment - a player I don't really rate myself, and one LVG apparently doesn't want. So hopefully that is already dead in the water.

twam2008 · 19-08-2014 01:43PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I think LVG is a top manager, and a great appointment.

I don't think he is a miracle worker though - the squad is dogsh1te, and if it isn't improved we are going to be 6th or so again this season, imo.

He needs to add another centre back (assuming Rojo is a done deal) and a combative central midfielder, at the very least. Without those two signings, we are fooked.

I was told Woodward is trying to do a deal for one CM player at the moment - a player I don't really rate myself, and one LVG apparently doesn't want. So hopefully that is already dead in the water.

Who's that?

shadowcomplex · 19-08-2014 01:43PM

If Roma said give us the Ronaldo money and ye can have strootman and benatia what would ye guys say ? Yes or No

shadowcomplex · 19-08-2014 01:44PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I think LVG is a top manager, and a great appointment.

I don't think he is a miracle worker though - the squad is dogsh1te, and if it isn't improved we are going to be 6th or so again this season, imo.

He needs to add another centre back (assuming Rojo is a done deal) and a combative central midfielder, at the very least. Without those two signings, we are fooked.

I was told Woodward is trying to do a deal for one CM player at the moment - a player I don't really rate myself, and one LVG apparently doesn't want. So hopefully that is already dead in the water.

Let me guess guarin

Mitch Connor · 19-08-2014 01:45PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

If Roma said give us the Ronaldo money and ye can have strootman and benatia what would ye guys say ? Yes or No

Tough one.... I'd say a reluctant yes, cause it is 20million more than they are 'worth' imo - but when you've fecked up as badly as United have, that is arguably the punishment you pay.

Alf Veedersane · 19-08-2014 01:45PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

If Roma said give us the Ronaldo money and ye can have strootman and benatia what would ye guys say ? Yes or No

I'd say No.

But because Strootman won't be fit until too long after United need him.

Mitch Connor · 19-08-2014 01:46PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Let me guess guarin

I'm not going to name him, and I'll only say no to a player name once... its not Guarin. My mate might decide to run the story so it wouldn't be fair for me to blab it on here.

magnumbud · 19-08-2014 01:48PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

I think the forward 3 are too narrow and also lack pace , I suppose you could say dimaria could change positions on the break but a traditional 433 works best with one central striker and a pacey winger type striker on either side ala robben or Sanchez

yeah but im not suggesting a traditional 433 im suggesting a 442 diamond with the main width coming from the fullback with in pure what if di maria and herrera kinda drifting in and out. that is the kinda role di maria played for a lot of last season and did it very well.

i agree its narrow but if it works thats what i would go for if it doesnt its either mata out wide or dropping rvp or rooney (who likely wont get dropped as captain). this may not be a problem if rvp doesnt keep fit and it may be more januzaj playing wide and di maria playing wide. it gives us options and i would imagine it depends on the team we are playing against what exact formation is actually played

shadowcomplex · 19-08-2014 01:49PM

Does anyone else think even though Vidal is world class and probably the best midfielder in the world that a different type of player is suited to partnering Herrera in midfield , both like to go forward quite a bit so in thinking like strootman or carvalho , although strootman likes to surge forward too I think he's good at both roles ,Vidal and strootman as a central pair would be a dream

J. Marston · 19-08-2014 01:49PM

You know things are fúcked when there are net spend debates going on.

KH25 · 19-08-2014 01:51PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'm not going to name him, and I'll only say no to a player name once... its not Guarin. My mate might decide to run the story so it wouldn't be fair for me to blab it on here.

Would he be a big name player? If so would you say Woodward is chasing him only for the power of the name? Feel free not to answer if you don't think you should.

bangkok · 19-08-2014 01:51PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'm not going to name him, and I'll only say no to a player name once... its not Guarin. My mate might decide to run the story so it wouldn't be fair for me to blab it on here.

what bull

twam2008 · 19-08-2014 01:52PM

Reports emanating from Portugal claim Sporting Lisbon president Bruno de Carvalho has confirmed his interest in signing Manchester United winger Nani on loan as long as United pay his full wages. United are thought to be ready to offer Nani as part of the deal to sign Argentine defender Marcos Rojo

That's nice of them, isn't it?

Mitch Connor · 19-08-2014 01:52PM

bangkok wrote: »

what bull

ok.

RobbingBandit · 19-08-2014 01:53PM

J. Marston wrote: »

You know things are fúcked when there are net spend debates going on.

It's worse than you think, this time next week there will be a Man Utd vs MK Dons 2nd round conciliation cup thread here abouts, how low we have sunk.:P

bangkok · 19-08-2014 01:55PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

ok.

"my mate might decide to run the story"

come on, that is pure crap. Sure he could work for the sun or the mirror, just pick any random player like they do and say united are in for him.

if they are in for a player he would run the story, if not he wouldn't.

shadowcomplex · 19-08-2014 01:55PM

twam2008 wrote: »

Reports emanating from Portugal claim Sporting Lisbon president Bruno de Carvalho has confirmed his interest in signing Manchester United winger Nani on loan as long as United pay his full wages. United are thought to be ready to offer Nani as part of the deal to sign Argentine defender Marcos Rojo

That's nice of them, isn't it?

Got excited for a second when I read the words sporting and carvalho

Mitch Connor · 19-08-2014 01:55PM

KH25 wrote: »

Would he be a big name player? If so would you say Woodward is chasing him only for the power of the name? Feel free not to answer if you don't think you should.

No, I think Woodward is chasing him, if he is, cause he is a very gettable player. Should be an easy deal, even for Woodward.

Read, separately, on the RedIssue Sanc forum about the same story - but on the Sanc it appears Woodward said he could get X, and LVG was emphatic in his rejection of the notion.

So from reading the Sanc take on the same story (seemingly a few journos have spoken about it) it sounds like Woodward isn't actively pursuing it - it was more an easy option put forward.

twam2008 · 19-08-2014 01:56PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Got excited for a second when I read the words sporting and carvalho

I know, that's what drew me to it initially.

Mitch Connor · 19-08-2014 01:56PM

bangkok wrote: »

"my mate might decide to run the story"

come on, that is pure crap. Sure he could work for the sun or the mirror, just pick any random player like they do and say united are in for him.

if they are in for a player he would run the story, if not he wouldn't.

Yeah, there is no way anyone in here could work out who the mate i am talking about could be. NONE.

twam2008 · 19-08-2014 01:57PM

Would he go for a song?

advertsfox · 19-08-2014 01:58PM

This trio is coming

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

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