Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

redbaron_99 · 18-08-2014 10:55PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Do you think it's acceptable for a club like Swansea (12th) to come to Old Trafford and win?

It's football. One team can beat another. Is that not acceptable?

Larry Wildman · 18-08-2014 10:57PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

It's football. One team can beat another. Is that not acceptable?

It is completely unacceptable for small clubs to routinely pitch up at Old Trafford and win which is what we're becoming accustomed to seeing.

redbaron_99 · 18-08-2014 10:58PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Yes.

Evans has done well partnered with either Vidic or Ferdinand in the past but has yet to deliver when playing as the senior man in a United defence.

Mata was a panic buy who wasn't needed. He has done very little since joining and was someone that the best manager in the league was happy to see the back of.

Wellbeck is not good enough to be Manchester United's front man in my view. A decent player...nothing more.

Hernandez was exposed again on Saturday. Great finisher but poor all round play means that he's not good enough.

De Gea would walk into our rivals' teams. RVP would too. Rooney probably would. Beyond that, nobody else.

Not taking the piss or anything, but you have often talked about your mate in JP Morgan who deals with some of uniteds business. Could you ring him up and try to get some insider info for the boys on here?

Corvo · 18-08-2014 10:59PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

It is completely unacceptable for small clubs to routinely pitch up at Old Trafford and win which is what we're becoming accustomed to seeing.

Why? They won on merit?

redbaron_99 · 18-08-2014 11:00PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

It is completely unacceptable for small clubs to routinely pitch up at Old Trafford and win which is what we're becoming accustomed to seeing.

We're having a poor patch. It happens in football.
Stick around for a few years, you'll see that most clubs go up and down.

woysworld · 18-08-2014 11:03PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Do you think it's acceptable for a club like Swansea (12th) to come to Old Trafford and win?

correction:
Swansea (5th)

RobbingBandit · 18-08-2014 11:06PM

2moreMinutes wrote: »

He did? Who?

Cantona, Denis Irwin, Roy Keane, Andy Cole, Solskjaer, Sheringham, Mark Hughes, Peter Schmeichel, he made 99 total signings as manager, and believe me not all of them were Bebes.

Your Airbag · 18-08-2014 11:07PM

twam2008 wrote: »

LVG wasn't here last Summer Airbag, and we had a similar situation. I don't think it's a coincidence.

Last summer there were bids for Cesc, Coentrao, Kedhira and interest shown in Thiago. Moyes watched Kroos and apparently met his agent and this summer talk of Kroos getting a big pay packet to take him to UTD was rife.

LVG has ignored Cesc and Kroos this summer when both were open to a move.

We bid for Cesc last summer but Woodward suddenly dropped his interest this summer? Woodward didn't fancy Kroos either?

No, Woodward bids on the managers behalf for player the manager wants and you simply can't ignore some of the calls LVG has made this summer.

MisterAnarchy · 18-08-2014 11:11PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

LVG has ignored Cesc and Kroos this summer when both were open to a move.

Why would Kroos even entertain the idea of going to Utd when Real Madrid were sniffing around ?

twam2008 · 18-08-2014 11:14PM

We don't know what calls LVG has made and have no way of knowing, presumedly he has requested players and none have been signed. Given his CV I wouldn't doubt his experience in signing players, although he might not have realised how hard it would be at Manchester United.

kryogen · 18-08-2014 11:20PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Why would Kroos even entertain the idea of going to Utd when Real Madrid were sniffing around ?

The little boy inside of course

Your Airbag · 18-08-2014 11:23PM

twam2008 wrote: »

We don't know what calls LVG has made and have no way of knowing, presumedly he has requested players and none have been signed. Given his CV I wouldn't doubt his experience in signing players, although he might not have realised how hard it would be at Manchester United.

You could say the same for Woodward but people have no problem judging him. We do know Woodward bid for Cesc last summer and not this summer when Cesc was easier to get.

Thats purely an LVG call.

No one is arguing over LVGs CV. He is known to be a slow starter at the clubs he has managed. Still there is a time call him on his actions and he hasn't exactly been impressive this window.

Your Airbag · 18-08-2014 11:24PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Why would Kroos even entertain the idea of going to Utd when Real Madrid were sniffing around ?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

and wasn't he a boyhood fan of the club.

2moreMinutes · 18-08-2014 11:26PM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Cantona, Denis Irwin, Roy Keane, Andy Cole, Solskjaer, Sheringham, Mark Hughes, Peter Schmeichel, he made 99 total signings as manager, and believe me not all of them were Bebes.

Its quite telling the names that, I'm assuming, initially came to you would be very similar to the names that would also initially come to me and even more telling that they're all from roughly 15-20 years ago. I'd also doubt that a few of them would be classed as bargains in their day even if the money seems like peanuts now.

2moreMinutes · 18-08-2014 11:28PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Why would Kroos even entertain the idea of going to Utd when Real Madrid were sniffing around ?

The chance to tell his grandkids that he once played with Cleverley?

Whatsisname · 18-08-2014 11:30PM

United Report ‏@UtdReport 14s
Rojo: "It feels like a dream, to be a #mufc player. Leaving Sporting wasn't easy." [ARG Radio via @HEGS_com]

Reckon it'll be announced tomorrow.

RobertKK · 18-08-2014 11:31PM

Miguel Delaney on Off the ball said Van Gaal wants 4 players in:
2 in defense
1 in midfield and a wide player/Di Maria.

He said Van Gaal was livid over Woodward not getting Vermaelen in as he was led to believe it was going to happen while he was away at the world cup.

Meanwhile Franz Beckenbauer has said Reus could move to Bayern next year but if he doesn't it will be to Real Madrid or Man United.
I will put my neck out and say Reus will go to Madrid next year as a replacement for Ronaldo who moves to united again...only if we get CL, so Woodward and co better get the players in.

kippy · 18-08-2014 11:32PM

2moreMinutes wrote: »

Its quite telling the names that, I'm assuming, initially came to you would be very similar to the names that would also initially come to me and even more telling that they're all from roughly 15-20 years ago. I'd also doubt that a few of them would be classed as bargains in their day even if the money seems like peanuts now.

Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra come to mind of late however none in the last few years of his reign.

RobertKK · 18-08-2014 11:34PM

2moreMinutes wrote: »

Its quite telling the names that, I'm assuming, initially came to you would be very similar to the names that would also initially come to me and even more telling that they're all from roughly 15-20 years ago. I'd also doubt that a few of them would be classed as bargains in their day even if the money seems like peanuts now.

True, Roy Keane broke the British transfer record at £3.5 million.

I remember it well...

homerjay2005 · 18-08-2014 11:35PM

Rojo has apparently said he is a manchester united player now.

was due to travel to manchester tonight but didnt due to " unexpected delay" according to Duncan Castles.

The saga continues but it does look like this one is completed.

Montroseee · 18-08-2014 11:38PM

I think we all just need a signing at this stage, would be a bit reassuring to know that things are indeed happening.

twam2008 · 18-08-2014 11:38PM

Hopefully they're like buses, and there's another few announced tomorrow.

2moreMinutes · 18-08-2014 11:39PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Rojo has apparently said he is a manchester united player now.

was due to travel to manchester tonight but didnt due to " unexpected delay" according to Duncan Castles.

The saga continues but it does look like this one is completed.

Hopefully its not like Odemwingie where Rojo drives up to Old Trafford only to be told, ummmm, sorry Mr Rojo sir, Woody has forgot to submit the bid but relax, we're assured its fairly high up on his to-do list.

Your Airbag · 18-08-2014 11:40PM

Di Marzio on Benatia:

Roma will meet Benatia’s agent tomorrow. Bayern is the only interested club: here’s their possible offer
The future of Benatia is still uncertain. It emerged in the last minutes that the agent of the defender will meet Roma’s Sabatini tomorrow. They will discuss the potential extension and the pay raise. An important contractual offer could lead to a complete agreement between the parties. Or maybe there’ll be a delay or even a break up. The scenarios are not defined yet, meanwhile Bayern Munich are pursuing him. The German club is the only one that is really interested in Benatia, they are willing to offer €25M plus bonuses, to be paid in two years. The bid is too low compared to Roma’s price tag. Tomorrow could be the day of truth for Benatia.

Ancelloti uncertain over Di Maria's future:

I don't want to enter into this theme so I don't lose focus on tomorrow's game. Di Maria is available like all the others. He may or may not start the game and has opportunities, but like everyone else.
I don't know what Di Maria has decided. But I know that he's training and that he could help us in tomorrow's match. Until August 31 it will continue the same way and after that everything will be cleared up and things will return to normal."

Whatsisname · 18-08-2014 11:40PM

Argentine's at United are a bit hit and miss. It'll be interesting if he signs, which is looking fairly likely atm.

2moreMinutes · 18-08-2014 11:44PM

RobertKK wrote: »

True, Roy Keane broke the British transfer record at £3.5 million.

I remember it well...

I remember a fella at school telling me that he read on Aertel that we signed Roy Keane. I ran straight home after school to check the teletext to make sure he was bs'ing me. More innocent days.....

Backstreet Moyes · 18-08-2014 11:45PM

Looking at City and Chelsea they have pulled clear it's at least a two year project to get back to competing for the league imo. This season i would be delighted to get 4th and get rid of some of the deadwood. A Vidal or Hummels would be nice but i would be happy with Rojo, De Jong and two back up full backs.

I think the 3-5-2 can work with two proper wing backs and two capable midfielders. I can't understand the thinking behind last Saturday playing 3-5-2 with no fit wing backs. The team is only two or three signings away from being in good shape for the top 4. Shaw and Rafael will make a huge difference compared to Lingard and Young. Also a decent midfielder in beside Herrera would make a huge difference Fletcher is not good enough. Something like below would be good enough imo for the top 4.

DDG

Jones

Rojo

Evans

---Rafael

Shaw

De Jong

Herrera

Mata

Rooney

RVP

Christy Browne · 18-08-2014 11:54PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

I think the 3-5-2 can work with two proper wing backs and two capable midfielders. I can't understand the thinking behind last Saturday playing 3-5-2 with no fit wing backs. The team is only two or three signings away from being in good shape for the top 4. Shaw and Rafael will make a huge difference compared to Lingard and Young. Also a decent midfielder in beside Herrera would make a huge difference Fletcher is not good enough. Something like below would be good enough imo for the top 4.
DDG
Jones
Rojo
Evans

---Rafael
Shaw
De Jong
Herrera
Mata
Rooney
RVP

Rojo would be on the left side of the back three with Evans in the centre. We haven't really been linked by any reliable journalists with any top midfielders which is a worry. De Jong would be a good signing only if we got Strootman in in January I feel.

DrPhilG · 19-08-2014 12:07AM

DM-ICE wrote: »

I hate to bring it up, but United finished 7th last season and were still able to get a mega deal from Adidas.

A mega deal that includes clauses to punish us if we finish 7th again.

Whatsisname · 19-08-2014 12:09AM

Rojo just followed Cuadrado on Instagram.

CuadradON.

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