Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Ed The Equalizer · 09-08-2014 10:50PM

thelad95 wrote: »

We're paper thin at the back and midfield is questionable. Woodward has said we have some mythical unlimited transfer budget yet here we are a week before the new season starts having essentially weakened not strengthened the overall squad since last season.

I'd argue that given our new manager, new signings in positions we were desperate for, 5 at the back giving more defensive solidity, Rooney and Mata playing in their best positions, and our greatly reduced schedule, we're in a MUCH stronger position than last season.

Rayne Wooney · 09-08-2014 10:53PM

The star were saying 20 million this morning, they are making it up

Ed The Equalizer · 09-08-2014 10:57PM

lordgoat wrote: »

If anyone is happy with the business so far you need to raise what you expect from a the club. Every team that finished above us has done better business bar Spurs and lets face it Spurs are a ****e.

Not concerned at all about what Everton, Liverpool and City have done.

Chelsea have done very well, and Arsenal second best.

On the other hand, all those teams will be worrying about us.

Regarding expectations, I think most people here need to raise their expectations of what the existing squad can do.

I expect a title challenge and nothing less, even with no signings.

aligator_am · 09-08-2014 11:00PM

Not really sure what to believe that's in the "papers", I'd imagine they'd run any story that will sell more papers or get them more clicks.

I'd assume the only way to know for sure is if the story appears on the official United site.

bmcc10 · 09-08-2014 11:00PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

The star were saying 20 million this morning, they are making it up

It really is lazy at this stage the tripe they print, Next week can't come quick enough get back to the real business.

Deank · 09-08-2014 11:04PM

duffman13 wrote: »

Don't let the door hit you on the way out

Explain, Hummels is a decent buy but not €30m worth, €20m ish is more realistic in this market.

bmcc10 · 09-08-2014 11:08PM

Deank wrote: »

Explain, Hummels is a decent buy but not €30m worth, €20m ish is more realistic in this market.

This in the day and age where David Luiz is sold for 50million.

Lucas Hood · 09-08-2014 11:08PM

Deank wrote: »

Explain, Hummels is a decent buy but not €30m worth, €20m ish is more realistic in this market.

If David Luiz is worth 50m, Hummels Is worth 100m.

20m is an insult to him.

duffman13 · 09-08-2014 11:09PM

Deank wrote: »

Explain, Hummels is a decent buy but not €30m worth, €20m ish is more realistic in this market.

Euros I thought you were talking pounds. Yeah no in a world were Luiz is £50m and Marquinhos is £30m and Lovren is what 15-20? Then yeah £30 million is an absolute bargain for Hummels.

IncognitoMan · 09-08-2014 11:09PM

Deank wrote: »

Explain, Hummels is a decent buy but not €30m worth, €20m ish is more realistic in this market.

In this market 40/50 is more realistic. Transfer fees have been very high lately. A far inferior defender in David Luiz went for 50m about 2 months ago

adox · 09-08-2014 11:13PM

Taok wrote: »

I expect a title challenge and nothing less, even with no signings.

Top 4 will be our title challenge if there aren't more signings.

Christy Browne · 09-08-2014 11:18PM

€20 million for Hummels is laughable to be honest, £16 million for one of the best centre backs in the world? Yeah right.
Could go for €40 million easily.

Cypher_sounds · 09-08-2014 11:21PM

adox wrote: »

Top 4 will be our title challenge if there aren't more signings.

There will be more signings. Believe!! Well i just can't phantom LVG comes into a huge club like united in July and not make at least two of his own signings.

I shall wait with patience for now..

Ed The Equalizer · 09-08-2014 11:21PM

adox wrote: »

Top 4 will be our title challenge if there aren't more signings.

You think the manager will be thinking that way?

eioneill · 09-08-2014 11:24PM

Marcos Rojo anyone?

Rayne Wooney · 09-08-2014 11:26PM

Deank wrote: »

Explain, Hummels is a decent buy but not €30m worth, €20m ish is more realistic in this market.

20 million for a World Cup winning defender when Lovren has just moved for 25 million?

Are you insane?

adox · 09-08-2014 11:28PM

Taok wrote: »

You think the manager will be thinking that way?

I'm thinking that way.

Ed The Equalizer · 09-08-2014 11:31PM

adox wrote: »

I'm thinking that way.

Well I'm glad you're not the manager so

Deank · 09-08-2014 11:33PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

20 million for a World Cup winning defender when Lovren has just moved for 25 million?

Are you insane?

Possibly, €30m is still a bit rich though.

Rayne Wooney · 09-08-2014 11:36PM

Deank wrote: »

Possibly, €30m is still a bit rich though.

No way, 30 million sterling is probably the least amount Dortmund would consider if he wanted out, and he would be worth that

Sure we almost paid that each for Shaw and Herrera

Cypher_sounds · 09-08-2014 11:37PM

Deank wrote: »

Possibly, €30m is still a bit rich though.

How would you rate Hummels as a defender? Have you seen him play much?
I'd rate him highly and in the same bracket as Thiago Silva and you know how much he cost.

Lucas Hood · 09-08-2014 11:41PM

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

How would you rate Hummels as a defender? Have you seen him play much?
I'd rate him highly and in the same bracket as Thiago Silva and you know how much he cost.

Silva didn't cost a whole lot more than Shaw.

Deank · 09-08-2014 11:41PM

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

How would you rate Hummels as a defender? Have you seen him play much?
I'd rate him highly and in the same bracket as Thiago Silva and you know how much he cost.

I'd rate him in the Vidic class, this has nothing to do with talent, more to do with stupid money and the over inflated prices paid for players.

Al Capwned · 09-08-2014 11:42PM

As much as I'd love to see Vidal signing, given the choice between him and Hummels (for arguments sake), it'd be the German chap all day long.
We really do need a CB badly. And it's probably more of a pressing concern than CM for me in the short term. And going by how weak our midfield is, that does say a lot about the lack of quality we have in central defence.

Still on the positivity couch, but signing both Vidal and Hummels is surely fantasy stuff.

Lucas Hood · 09-08-2014 11:43PM

Deank wrote: »

I'd rate him in the Vidic class, this has nothing to do with talent, more to do with stupid money and the over inflated prices paid for players.

Which Vidic class the one where he was one of the best in the world or at the level he is now?

homerjay2005 · 09-08-2014 11:48PM

I love Kate Upton.......

Deank · 09-08-2014 11:53PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Which Vidic class the one where he was one of the best in the world or at the level he is now?

Seriously?

Lucas Hood · 09-08-2014 11:56PM

Deank wrote: »

Seriously?

Yes? If you think Vidic is anywhere near as good as Hummels now you're wrong. If you think Hummels is as good as Vidic was at his best then you're probably right.

lordgoat · 09-08-2014 11:58PM

Taok wrote: »

Not concerned at all about what Everton, Liverpool and City have done.

Chelsea have done very well, and Arsenal second best.

On the other hand, all those teams will be worrying about us.

Regarding expectations, I think most people here need to raise their expectations of what the existing squad can do.

I expect a title challenge and nothing less, even with no signings.

I expect the same, but with signings I believe it might be easier. Don't let citys signings fool you, very solid squad players. Hoping they get a bastard of a CL group.

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

There will be more signings. Believe!! Well i just can't phantom LVG comes into a huge club like united in July and not make at least two of his own signings.

I shall wait with patience for now..

Adventure time, we need the jiggler to sort **** out.

TSC - I see where you're coming from I just don't agree with it. Plenty of players that fit into the roles we need.

Deank · 10-08-2014 12:00AM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Yes? If you think Vidic is anywhere near as good as Hummels now you're wrong. If you think Hummels is as good as Vidic was at his best then you're probably right.

We're both right so.

She's a cracking arse on her, no?

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

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