Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Rayne Wooney · 05-08-2014 07:56PM

Wait until a bid goes in before going apeshít

Could have done himself some damage playing through injury at the World Cup

Larry Wildman · 05-08-2014 07:56PM

merlinsmerryman wrote: »

??

http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/chile-boss-says-arturo-vidal-to-manchester-united-is-done-for-45m

adox · 05-08-2014 07:57PM

Time to say my goodbyes for a month?

Doubtful.

How Soon Is Now · 05-08-2014 07:57PM

I'd be very very very happy if we signed him but how many times have we heard good news about him this summer and turned out to be nothing. Prove me wrong please! Ha.

Saucy McKetchup · 05-08-2014 08:00PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Arturo Vidal...heading Northwest to the Theatre of Dreams

Did your buddy who works in J.P Morgan tell you that?

Vic Vinegar · 05-08-2014 08:01PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I'd be very very very happy if we signed him but how many times have we heard good news about him this summer and turned out to be nothing. Prove me wrong please! Ha.

I think it's different this time though Ted.

dahat · 05-08-2014 08:02PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Those quotes from the Chilean manager earlier have been verified. He spoke with such decisiveness that he couldn't be talking out of his arse. That means we are in for Vidal, and have it all agreed, but LVG wants assurances of his fitness. Why hasn't this place gone into a gif-frenzy?

We have been on the beer and spent the night impressing a girl,all going well now as she is in the taxi with you bit you must not get too carried away as you still need to impress her more to get her knickers off in 30/40 mins time.......

We are now at this very important stage....

Larry Wildman · 05-08-2014 08:07PM

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

Did your buddy who works in J.P Morgan tell you that?

Nope, he just told me that we'd sign him.

rebeve · 05-08-2014 08:11PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Can't bate a rave in the woods :pac:

If you had a babe you could

Will I Amnt · 05-08-2014 08:12PM

rebeve wrote: »

If you had a babe you could

There's always babes at raves...always...

Lord TSC · 05-08-2014 08:18PM

J. Marston · 05-08-2014 08:18PM

Does the United thread have a fantasy football league? Does anyone have the code to join?

LostBoy101 · 05-08-2014 08:19PM

Every transfer saga.

Jimmy Iovine · 05-08-2014 08:25PM

Don't know if this has been posted already. It gets better every time I watch it.

A Super Bowl winner and Hall of Famer getting this excited about an autograph. Makes me feel normal about when I get autographs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcA-7F1dgAY

How Soon Is Now · 05-08-2014 08:25PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

I think it's different this time though Ted.

Ha ha

MagicIRL · 05-08-2014 08:28PM

We may gain Vidal, but we've lost Bébé. Show some respect.

billyhead · 05-08-2014 08:33PM

DDG
Jones Smalling Evans
Rafael Vidal Herrera Shaw
Mata
RVP Rooney

Oh my God

Pro. F · 05-08-2014 08:34PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Those quotes from the Chilean manager earlier have been verified. He spoke with such decisiveness that he couldn't be talking out of his arse. That means we are in for Vidal, and have it all agreed, but LVG wants assurances of his fitness. Why hasn't this place gone into a gif-frenzy?

Vinz Mesrine · 05-08-2014 08:34PM

billyhead wrote: »

DDG
Jones Smalling Evans
Rafael Vidal Herrera Shaw
Mata
RVP Rooney

Oh my God

Would you(and others) be happy with that defence for a full season?

ShoulderChip · 05-08-2014 08:36PM

Hi sorry to burst your bubble but Vidal is now 3.5 to one to join United.
He was less than evens.
If you believe these rumours then go bet, if you don't the market has a lot less confidence in it happening so its looking less likely.

Rayne Wooney · 05-08-2014 08:37PM

billyhead wrote: »

DDG
Jones Smalling Evans
Rafael Vidal Herrera Shaw
Mata
RVP Rooney

I can't see that midfield working, if we sign Vidal it will probably be Carrick and Vidal with Mata ahead and Ander being used as a squad player

TheTownie · 05-08-2014 08:37PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

We may gain Vidal, but we've lost Bébé. Show some respect.

Stop reminding me!

Pro. F · 05-08-2014 08:37PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Probably should add a lot of this was in zones Liverpool were happy to let us have it

Yes, very true.

Vinz Mesrine · 05-08-2014 08:38PM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Hi sorry to burst your bubble but Vidal is now 3.5 to one to join United.
He was less than evens.
If you believe these rumours then go bet, if you don't the market has a lot less confidence in it happening so its looking less likely.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/09/1373605/leading-bookmaker-slashes-odds-on-franck-ribery-joining

Larry Wildman · 05-08-2014 08:38PM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Hi sorry to burst your bubble but Vidal is now 3.5 to one to join United.
He was less than evens.
If you believe these rumours then go bet, if you don't the market has a lot less confidence in it happening so its looking less likely.

When he was odds on, the naysayers were claiming that it was meaningless.

Now that he's odds against, the naysayers are claiming that it means something.

You can't have it both ways.

MagicIRL · 05-08-2014 08:38PM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Hi sorry to burst your bubble but Vidal is now 3.5 to one to join United.
He was less than evens.
If you believe these rumours then go bet, if you don't the market has a lot less confidence in it happening so its looking less likely.

Looks like somebody needs an education on how bookies work.

ShoulderChip · 05-08-2014 08:40PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Looks like somebody needs an education on how bookies work.

Please educate me!
I am fully aware that they often underprice the odds to make a frenzy or a false appearance of something happening, the fact that the highest available odds have lengthened so much is certainly indicative of information in the market to the contrary of him signing.

If you were to follow the tone of this thread where people are starting to believe that it is likely then the given odds are very generous that is my point.
I am not saying it is not going to happen I am just saying that there is value in the market currently if you are of the belief that it is likely to occur.

MagicIRL · 05-08-2014 08:43PM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Please educate me!
I am fully aware that they often underprice the odds to make a frenzy or a false appearance of something happening, the fact that the highest available odds have lengthened so much is certainly indicative of information in the market to the contrary of him signing.

If you were to follow the tone of this thread where people are starting to believe that it is likely then the given odds are very generous that is my point.
I am not saying it is not going to happen I am just saying that there is value in the market currently if you are of the belief that it is likely to occur.

Rumour emerges that Vidal is wanted by United. Punters start betting on Vidal to United. Bookies cut odds for Vidal to move so they don't lose money.

Rumour emerges that Vidal is happy at Juve. Punters bet on Vidal staying at Juve. Bookies up the odds on Vidal to United and lower odds on him staying so they don't lose money.

This goes back and fourth, back and fourth until Paddy Power and his buddies have made a rake of cash on fools with the Daily Mail in hand.

Lord TSC · 05-08-2014 08:43PM

I don't listen to odds...but odds checker shows 3/4 of bookies offering odds on him to United are well below evens (1/10, 1/4 and 1/5). Only one has 7/2 and don't know why there is a massive divergence there.

https://m.oddschecker.com/t/football/football-specials/arturo-vidal/club-after-summer-transfer-window

ShoulderChip · 05-08-2014 08:50PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Rumour emerges that Vidal is wanted by United. Punters start betting on Vidal to United. Bookies cut odds for Vidal to move so they don't lose money.

Rumour emerges that Vidal is happy at Juve. Punters bet on Vidal staying at Juve. Bookies up the odds on Vidal to United and lower odds on him staying so they don't lose money.

This goes back and fourth, back and fourth until Paddy Power and his buddies have made a rake of cash on fools with the Daily Mail in hand.

Ah, yes you make a good point,
My gut still tells me that the huge swing by the three bookies on oddschecker is noteworthy i.e. more than them just covering their book, they would have had to take very large bets on Juve to not be able to cover them in the interbookie market etc. but maybe they did just screw themselves.

Thanks for your input though , here I thought I knew how everything worked, smacked down to earth!

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

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