Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

RobertKK · 05-08-2014 06:56PM

ician wrote: »

where has shaw been playing in the preseason in the 352?

Left wing back.

FutureGuy · 05-08-2014 06:57PM

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

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Nope. We are not signing Vidal.

Good thinking though.

FutureGuy · 05-08-2014 06:59PM

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

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David
Don't concede
Don't concede
Clean sheet

Pro. F · 05-08-2014 07:00PM

Headshot wrote: »

So I couldnt watch the match last night

Anyone give me a detailed account of how we played, were we deserved winners?

In the first half Liverpool pressed and all three United centre-backs and Fletcher were shockingly bad on the ball. Even when they weren't being pressed sometimes they just misplaced passes. Hererra was okay, but he was misplacing some passes too. DDG was excellent on the ball and Young and Shaw did well.

But even with all the problems the team dominated possession for long stretches.

It was better in the second half, partly because Liverpool couldn't keep up the pressing. Young just got better and better, especially for keeping possession and linking up.

Blackett came on in the second half and he looked really good with and without possession.

The back line got zero protection for most of the game and if Liverpool had had a working CF they probably would have scored a hat-full.

Hererra started looking very tired and committing a lot of fouls as the game wore on. Rooney played well, but was knackered towards the end too.

Blatter · 05-08-2014 07:05PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Cuadrado is a winger. Has he ever played in a wing-back role or any position with serious defensive responsibilities?

And he will cost a fortune relative to the gamble he'd be. Unless the 352 we've played all summer is going out the window, I can't see this being true

He has played right wingback in a 3-5-2 for Fiorentina before. How well he defends, I'm not so sure. He seems to have played all over the place, looks very versatile.

Whatsisname · 05-08-2014 07:08PM

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Atletico Madrid have offered €31.5m for Shinji Kagawa & Chicharito. [via @diegocora_ESPN]

Larry Wildman · 05-08-2014 07:11PM

Surely Kagawa is not surplus to requirements?

If anything happens to Mata, Kagawa can slot straight in at 10 behind Rooney and Van Persie.

Donnielighto · 05-08-2014 07:14PM

Just bought a kagawa jersey. Pricks.

J. Marston · 05-08-2014 07:15PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

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£25 million for Chich and Kagawa.

Funny joke.

Deiseboy01 · 05-08-2014 07:18PM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

It's ok lads he is just taking a well deserved nap on his keyboard

Deisebaby01 got her little fat hands on my phone! Makes more sense than me though I'll have to admit!

Pro. F · 05-08-2014 07:21PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Surely Kagawa is not surplus to requirements?

If anything happens to Mata, Kagawa can slot straight in at 10 behind Rooney and Van Persie.

We need to make room for Januzaj to come through imo. Having him as back-up to Mata and while also getting the odd game as a striker would look like a good plan to me. Kagawa needing games would get in the way of that.

RobertKK · 05-08-2014 07:22PM

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

Deisebaby01 got her little fat hands on my phone! Makes more sense than me though I'll have to admit!

She is clever, FutureGuy deciphered some of it, she is De Gea fan obviously.
cx is catch cross.

Larry Wildman · 05-08-2014 07:23PM

J. Marston wrote: »

£25 million for Chich and Kagawa.

Funny joke.

Is that not about right?

Both are disgruntled...both appear to be surplus to requirements (I don't believe Kagawa is)...Kagawa hasn't really been a success at United and Chicharito doesn't get his game for either club or country.

We can't apply crazy David Luiz pricing to every scenario.

Lord TSC · 05-08-2014 07:23PM

J. Marston wrote: »

£25 million for Chich and Kagawa.

Funny joke.

About right imo. 12.5m each is about right sadly.

Would be following At Madrid closely next season if true.

Blatter · 05-08-2014 07:23PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Surely Kagawa is not surplus to requirements?

If anything happens to Mata, Kagawa can slot straight in at 10 behind Rooney and Van Persie.

Realistically, Kagawa should be first choice somewhere else. I'm not sure how effective he would be coming in and out of the side, IMO he seems like the type of player that needs to be playing regularly.

Januzaj would be perfect back up to Mata in a season of no European football, with Rooney/Herrera also being able to fill in there.

DM_7 · 05-08-2014 07:26PM

Pro. F wrote: »

We need to make room for Januzaj to come through imo. Having him as back-up to Mata and while also getting the odd game as a striker would look like a good plan to me. Kagawa needing games would get in the way of that.

Sadly to give him a chance it will have to happen that way and Kagawa isn't going to get games somewhere else to keep him sufficiently involved.

I think Van Gaal and his system require committed players who are working hard and to keep them doing that they need to feel they are getting reward for the work they put in. Its unlikely that Kagawa or someone like Hernandez will stay happy or rewarded if they don't play regularly.

Its unfortunate that they may have to go and an extra punishment for not getting to the Champions League. It would be good if we could keep one of them till January though

Larry Wildman · 05-08-2014 07:26PM

Pro. F wrote: »

We need to make room for Januzaj to come through imo. Having him as back-up to Mata and while also getting the odd game as a striker would look like a good plan to me. Kagawa needing games would get in the way of that.

Yeah, maybe. I'll be crucified for saying it, but I'm not convinced by Januzaj. He's a good prospect in my view, but nothing more at this stage. Way too much hype for a couple of goals and a couple of (admittedly) good performances. I'd be wary of relying on him to be our backup at 10.

That's not to say that he won't "make it", but on the "spectrum of seemingly great talent, where Ryan Giggs is at one end and Frederico Macheda is at the other, I'd have Januzaj just past the middle (towards Giggsy).

Vic Vinegar · 05-08-2014 07:26PM

Sky Italia reporting that Vidal wants to leave (according to sources!)

Rayne Wooney · 05-08-2014 07:27PM

Pro. F wrote: »

But even with all the problems the team dominated possession for long stretches.
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Probably should add a lot of this was in zones Liverpool were happy to let us have it

J. Marston wrote: »

£25 million for Chich and Kagawa.

Funny joke.

It's probably near enough the going rate considering form over the past few seasons, £30-35m maybe

Kagawa is one of those players who will go for cheap but become priceless for the team he goes to, Chico will do very well if played with another striker but if Atleti want him to lead the line I don't think it will work out very well unless they tailor the play completely to his main strength, instinctive finishing in the box

Lord TSC · 05-08-2014 07:31PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Sky Italia reporting that Vidal wants to leave (according to sources!)

#autorON

Mikeyt086 · 05-08-2014 07:32PM

Those quotes from the Chilean manager earlier have been verified. He spoke with such decisiveness that he couldn't be talking out of his arse. That means we are in for Vidal, and have it all agreed, but LVG wants assurances of his fitness. Why hasn't this place gone into a gif-frenzy?

Vic Vinegar · 05-08-2014 07:32PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

#autorON

It's on like Donkey Kong.

Rayne Wooney · 05-08-2014 07:33PM

Actually at 12.5 million I would be surprised if Dortmund don't go in for him, he is 25 and was a success over two seasons at Dortmund

taking him back for less than they let him go for would be a no brainer IMO

aperture_nuig · 05-08-2014 07:36PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Those quotes from the Chilean manager earlier have been verified. He spoke with such decisiveness that he couldn't be talking out of his arse. That means we are in for Vidal, and have it all agreed, but LVG wants assurances of his fitness. Why hasn't this place gone into a gif-frenzy?

Sick from reading about it all summer I guess. It'd be a fantastic signing, don't get me wrong, but I'm finding it hard to be too excited that's been as drawn out as this has.

RobertKK · 05-08-2014 07:37PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Those quotes from the Chilean manager earlier have been verified. He spoke with such decisiveness that he couldn't be talking out of his arse. That means we are in for Vidal, and have it all agreed, but LVG wants assurances of his fitness. Why hasn't this place gone into a gif-frenzy?

We don't want it to end with that knee causing pain...so we wait...and keep things measured.

ElChe32 · 05-08-2014 07:37PM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Those quotes from the Chilean manager earlier have been verified. He spoke with such decisiveness that he couldn't be talking out of his arse. That means we are in for Vidal, and have it all agreed, but LVG wants assurances of his fitness. Why hasn't this place gone into a gif-frenzy?

DID SOMEONE SAY GIF FRENZY!?

Will I Amnt · 05-08-2014 07:51PM

ElChe32 wrote: »

DID SOMEONE SAY GIF FRENZY!?

Can't bate a rave in the woods :pac:

Larry Wildman · 05-08-2014 07:52PM

Arturo Vidal...heading Northwest to the Theatre of Dreams

merlinsmerryman · 05-08-2014 07:54PM

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Arturo Vidal...heading Northwest to the Theatre of Dreams

??

TheTownie · 05-08-2014 07:54PM

Apart from the obvious upsides to signing Vidal, I'd like it to happen to see the reaction of Adam Digby. His head would explode I'd say

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