Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

RayCun · 05-08-2014 04:20PM

Coat22 wrote: »

There ain't a whole pile of world class CBs out there that are a) available and b) looking to join united

World class? Maybe not.
better than vermaelen? I think there's a few

Giggsy11 · 05-08-2014 04:24PM

RayCun wrote: »

I don't think Valencia has done enough to impress LVG in pre-season, I'd hope for/expect a replacement.
If we get a new CB and CM too - and they are improvements on what we have, not squad players like Vermaelen would be - ...

De Gea
Jones Evans New CB
Shaw/Young Rafael
Herrera New CM
Mata
Rooney RVP

I think he will stay. He also signed new contract.

Vic Vinegar · 05-08-2014 04:25PM

The thing with Fellaini is he probably just doesn't fit in with LvG's style of play, he's not quick on his feet, not a fast distributor of the ball, not a great passer and kind of clumsy, so that would rule him out of a position in the centre of midfield and he sure as sh!t won't get a game in what most would say is his best position either (off the front)

Vic Vinegar · 05-08-2014 04:26PM

Apparent quote from Chile manager Sampaoli

“I know that the main problem in Vidal’s $80m transfer to #MUFC is LVG’s doubt over the improvement of Vidal’s knee”

Giggsy11 · 05-08-2014 04:26PM

Augmerson wrote: »

What do you reckon Van Gaal will spend the winnings on lads?

Cheeky big for Ibra? Di Maria? Ronaldo? Messi?

Last min bid for Reus and Pogba before they sign for Liverpool.

Coat22 · 05-08-2014 04:26PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

What justifies your opinion to play Jones but sell Smalling. I don't exactly see what both players have done for you to come to that conclusion. That tackle last night shows how much Jones has to learn added in with his reckless tackles getting himself injured. Thought Smalling looked very good last night. Both deserve a proper chance at first team football to develop.

Also i think you are overrating Vermalen a bit here i would rate Evans above him for starters.

Relax man its just an opinion.

I think if you look at how they’ve performed over the last couple of seasons rather than in a couple of training matches then Jones would appear to offer more potential to develop into a better player than Smalling. I’m not even sure that will be as a centre back, maybe a defensive mid-fielder eventually, as you point out he does tend to concede stupid frees and penalties. Smalling for me does not look like a player that will get much better than he currently is and I don’t think that’s of United standard.

Vermaelen isn’t the entire answer either and maybe I am overrating him but I think he’s better than what we have for a start. We need 2 CBs. If we are extremely lucky we’ll sign someone of Hummels quality but even then we’ll need another and that’s where I see Vemaelen as fitting the bill of being a) available, b) probably open to joining united and c) already experienced in the premier league.

Either way I wouldn’t lose too much sleep about it – the way things are going we’ll sign nobody and sell maybe Hernandez unfortunately

Whatsisname · 05-08-2014 04:27PM

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Tom Coast - Sports Witness Journalist wrote:

Jorge Sampaoli has had a little bit of a chat with El Mercurio about many things surrounding the Chile NT, and one of the topics is Vidal. Sampaoli admits that the Vidal everybody saw at the World Cup was only “30-40%” of the Vidal everyone knows from Juventus. Sampaoli says how, by playing in the WC, Vidal sacrificed himself for the NT and could have potentially damaged his own personal objectives. Now, the most interesting part of all this is the next quote. Sampaoli mentions directly Vidal’s transfer to #MUFC. Sampaoli: “I know that the main problem in Vidal’s $80m transfer to #MUFC is LVG’s doubt over the improvement of Vidal’s knee”

Coat22 · 05-08-2014 04:28PM

RayCun wrote: »

World class? Maybe not.
better than vermaelen? I think there's a few

That are available?

RayCun · 05-08-2014 04:34PM

Coat22 wrote: »

That are available?

For the right money, sure.
It's not like we'd be getting a bargain with V.

Son Of A Vidic · 05-08-2014 04:51PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Here is the transfer news we all are waiting for.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Aug/manchester-united-finalise-deal-for-Vanja-Milinkovic.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

The ****, at this rate he will end up over 7 feet.

Predicting the future: Here he is on his 20th birthday warming up with De Gea..........

Rayne Wooney · 05-08-2014 04:53PM

Hopefully Vidal's recovery goes well in the next few weeks

You can understand the clubs' hesitancy at paying 60 million and 200k a week to someone who could be crocked

GSPfan · 05-08-2014 05:04PM

Best transfer news of the summer as Barcelona bid £10 million for Vermaalen. Yipee. Never before have i been happy Barcelona entered a transfer race for a player.

We dont need more injury prone defenders.

Larry Wildman · 05-08-2014 05:04PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

Fellaini is better than Fletcher, Cleverley, Anderson, Powell, Lingard and Kagawa.

Sorry man, but that's an insane comment.

MagicIRL · 05-08-2014 05:05PM

GSPfan wrote: »

Best transfer news of the summer as Barcelona bid £10 million for Vermaalen. Yipee. Never before have i been happy Barcelona entered a transfer race for a player.

We dont need more injury prone defenders.

Wait and see- IF they sign him you'll have posters in here moaning that we let it slip by.

GSPfan · 05-08-2014 05:16PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Wait and see- IF they sign him you'll have posters in here moaning that we let it slip by.

100%.

He could be fantastic for Barcelona and if they can keep him fit then good luck to them, but we could defo do without. I'd rather buy a solid defender with a good fitness record and give Blackett a chance.

TheMilkyPirate · 05-08-2014 05:37PM

Interesting quotes from the Chile manager, Think there tour ends the 23rd of August so hopefully we will finally have an end to this saga then.

Maybe the reason all the smoke is coming from foreign journos is because juve are more open about their transfer business than United are now. Would also explain why ducker etc claim to have heard nothing.

J. Marston · 05-08-2014 05:40PM

Rafael Hernández @RafaelH117

Zubizarreta knows Manchester United has offered Cuadrado substantially more wages than Barcelona, and that could obstruct the transfer.

By the way, that also means Manchester United is leading the race to sign Juan Cuadrado from Fiorentina.

Correction, Di Marzio reporting Manchester United's preparing a bid for Cuadrado, seems Barça's going to lose this one.

I know very little of him other than the fact that he's lethal in Fifa.

93 pace, 87 dribbling. Can't be stopped.

Lucas Hood · 05-08-2014 05:41PM

Cuadrado would be perfect for the right wing back role if we persist with 352.

Headshot · 05-08-2014 05:42PM

J. Marston wrote: »

I know very little of him other than the fact that he's lethal in Fifa.

93 pace, 87 dribbling. Can't be stopped.

I wouldnt be that keen on him. He's a good player but I dont think he will drastically improve us. A better option than Nani thou

FutureGuy · 05-08-2014 05:44PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

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That a pretty much exactly the situation I thought we were in. Good news.

thelad95 · 05-08-2014 05:56PM

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

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DARK-KNIGHT · 05-08-2014 06:00PM

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

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It's ok lads he is just taking a well deserved nap on his keyboard

Copper_pipe · 05-08-2014 06:05PM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

It's ok lads he is just taking a well deserved nap on his keyboard

He had a rough night celebrating the International champions cup win

Headshot · 05-08-2014 06:06PM

So I couldnt watch the match last night

Anyone give me a detailed account of how we played, were we deserved winners?

Whatsisname · 05-08-2014 06:15PM

Headshot wrote: »

So I couldnt watch the match last night

Anyone give me a detailed account of how we played, were we deserved winners?

First half was a very Moyes performance. Midfield and defence struggled with being pressed.

Second half Liverpool stopped pressing and we took advantage.

Overall we deserved it I think.

Young and Shaw were very impressive all night. Valencia came off after a few minutes for Shaw so Young went RWB.

Also, Herrera hates scousers.

RobertKK · 05-08-2014 06:15PM

Cuadrado to replace Valencia???

PhlegmyMoses · 05-08-2014 06:17PM

Cuadrado is a winger. Has he ever played in a wing-back role or any position with serious defensive responsibilities?

And he will cost a fortune relative to the gamble he'd be. Unless the 352 we've played all summer is going out the window, I can't see this being true

RobertKK · 05-08-2014 06:23PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Cuadrado is a winger. Has he ever played in a wing-back role or any position with serious defensive responsibilities?

And he will cost a fortune relative to the gamble he'd be. Unless the 352 we've played all summer is going out the window, I can't see this being true

Looking at Transfermarkt, he liked doing something the referee doesn't like.
Serie A, he played 121 games and 34 yellow cards, with those yellows leading to two sending offs.

Maybe he tackles like Scholes, I don't know

ician · 05-08-2014 06:54PM

where has shaw been playing in the preseason in the 352?

MagicMarker · 05-08-2014 06:55PM

ician wrote: »

where has shaw been playing in the preseason in the 352?

In goal.

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