Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

tayto lover wrote: »

Cruelty has no bounds. The truth hurts obviously.

Ah come on your trolling over the last few pages has been of much better quality than that. Here I was hopeing you were gonna expand on your argument that the Isreali Government and this conflict are on a par with the Third Reich and WW2

Mojoloco wrote: »

I'm asking a question, what country are you from ?

Well its quite obvious that you are Israeli.

To answer your question that you have repeatedly asked,Gladly Britain didnt keep us Irish locked in a cage in the last 50 years where they decided what we eat,drink and when we had power and kept us down,so the IRA didnt have to launch 'welded pieces of pipe' at Britain.

With the Gazan's blockaded for the last 7 years,why should they not fight back.

Mojoloco wrote: »

I don't take sides in this conflict.

As the overall opinion here seems to be Hamas = Good, Israel = Bad

I'm asking what would be your opinion if the IRA were firing thousands of missiles into UK cities and from Irish civilian areas and using innocent women and children as cover ?

Who said Hamas was good? By misreading basically this entire thread, you are taking a side in this conflict. By painting it in such a binary way, you're portraying any criticism for Israel as support for Hamas. That is incredibly simplistic.

Saying Israel's actions are deplorable and disgusting and morally reprehensible is not the same as saying Hamas are good. Of course they're bad. Isn't that obvious? And asking for some sort of rational justification for Israel's actions is also not the same as being a supporter of those who fire rockets from within Palestine, and use human shields, and hide their munitions in civilian buildings. They're bad guys, we know this. But none of that justifies Israel's way-over-the-top actions.

I see a bunch of people here talking earlier about how there's no official policy of targeting civilians. It's like you're all reading straight from the Israeli PR handbook or something. If you aim something as big and explosive as a missile at the head of a guy with a rocket launcher, then you're also, by default, like it or not, aiming that missile at everything remotely near that guy. That includes children, buildings, goldfish, you name it. Saying "But but we warned them with bits of paper 60 seconds beforehand that we were going to destroy everything around them and tough luck if you happen to be on the toilet at the time" doesn't excuse the action when it results in civilian deaths. You're then just saying it was their own damn fault they didn't vacate the blast radius in time. Regrettable, but they had it coming. That's basically what all the supporters of the Israeli offensive are saying: Civilian caught in an explosion caused by a missile we decided to fire? Well, why were you standing in the way? Serves you right.

They surely don't have a policy of deliberately targetting civilians, but they surely do have a policy of shooting at that bad guy, and to hell with whatever he's standing behind. Human shields are not human to the Israelis. The evidence for that is in over a thousand deaths over the last little while.

As to your point about the IRA... my own opinion would be that unlike the Israeli army, just about any other army in the world would try to minimize casualties when taking out the bad guys. The Israelis are not showing any regard for human life. If someone happens to be standing anywhere remotely near a terrorist, they're dead. Doesn't matter who they are. That is not collateral damage, it's not unintentional, it's not accidental. The Israelis are the ones pulling the trigger, firing the missiles. When they do that, they're effectively putting the responsibility for a child's life in that child's hands, despite having just lobbed a great big missile at their heads.

But despite their apparently rotten aim, the Israelis are not idiots. Decades of experience has shown them that if they give a warning that they're going to bomb the **** out of a place, civilians are still going to die, children are going to die. So in choosing to pull the trigger, despite knowing from experience that a great many innocent civilians will still be in the way, they're showing a willful disregard for human life. They're making what might have been unintentional and accidental deaths, into fully intentional and deliberate killings. If you know people won't be able to get out of the way in time, and you still go ahead and pull that trigger, you're a murderer.

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Their shared MO, motivations, religious and political extremism.

They are both terrorist islamists who hate Israel, the West and even their own people.

that doesn't make them allies, so withdraw the claim that hamas and isis are allies, because its a lie

Mojoloco wrote: »

Sinn Fien / IRA beg to differ, and I'm Irish born and bred and lived through the worst of the toubles in NI. I didn't take sides then either, much to the alarm and abuse of the group think then as well.

Your poor spelling and grammar makes me question if you really are who you pretend to be:rolleyes: