Ebola Virus "beyond our control" in West Africa

25-06-2014 06:04PM

thankfully its not in Spain .

http://www.elperiodico.cat/ca/noticias/societat/aillat-pacient-valencia-davant-sospita-patir-ebola-3329006

The analyzes carried out on a patient at the Hospital La Fe in Valencia, which had been isolated for suspected Ebola suffer, they have ruled out the virus and the disease entered Spain, sources have advanced the Ministry of Health.

The patient was isolated at the Hospital La Fe in Valencia suspected of having Ebola virus, originally from Guinea and landed in Valencia from Morocco, is recovering well from a clinical standpoint.

GalwayGuy2 · 25-06-2014 06:15PM

@The One Who Knocks

You just knocked the fear out of me :pac:

The One Who Knocks · 25-06-2014 06:17PM

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

@The One Who Knocks

You just knocked the fear out of me :pac:

What I came to realise is that fear, that's the worst of it. That's the real enemy. So, get up, get out in the real world and you kick that b*stard as hard as you can right in the teeth.

Capt'n Midnight · 25-06-2014 06:42PM

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

This is not the first outbreak either. There have been 27 previously, 6 of which have occurred outside Africa with a total death toll of 0.

I could understand your concern if ebola was airborne or something, but it's just not dangerous over here in it's current state,.. the likes of swine flu was much worse.

Marburg is scary though, possibly airborne and has killed people outside Africa

The One Who Knocks · 25-06-2014 07:11PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Marburg is scary though, possibly airborne and has killed people outside Africa

That's true, but only 9 deaths outside Africa all of which originated from there, either through lab accidents, imported reservoir hosts or people who had recently visited Africa and returned to their country.

The fact that it may be airborne makes it worse, but thankfully we haven't any serious outbreaks. The incubation period with Marburg is much shorter though (8 days vs 21) so I'd say that's part of the reason it has only killed 249 people in 47 years.

old_aussie · 08-07-2014 01:23PM

Ebola set to go international?

Next it will be MERS.

Health authorities in Glasgow and organisers of the Commonwealth Games, which start in the city on July 23, said they were "monitoring the situation on a daily basis" because a team from Sierra Leone was coming to compete.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/guinea/10942598/Ebola-out-of-control-in-West-Africa-as-health-workers-rush-to-trace-1500-possible-victims.html

08-07-2014 08:30PM

Another one dies, an American visitor

http://www.citifmonline.com/2014/07/08/suspected-ebola-patient-dies/

wendell borton · 08-07-2014 08:40PM

Stories about outbreaks like this don't freak me as much since the last couple of pandemics have been so anticlimactic.

08-07-2014 08:53PM

Video below, released june 2014.
Monkey meat and Ebola outbreak in Liberia.

Warning parts of it are not for the squeamish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasTcDsDfMg

Stinicker · 08-07-2014 09:28PM

Bush meat and sexual relations between men and Chimpanzees are suspected to be source of HIV/AIDS which saw the virus transfer into the human race.

cerastes · 12-07-2014 07:14PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Bush meat and sexual relations between men and Chimpanzees are suspected to be source of HIV/AIDS which saw the virus transfer into the human race.

Really :eek::pac:;)
Im sure the bush meat part might hold some truth, but you might want to be mad for something wild in the sack for the other, sounds a bit implausible to me.

rockbeast · 12-07-2014 07:26PM

cerastes wrote: »

Really :eek::pac:;)
Im sure the bush meat part might hold some truth, but you might want to be mad for something wild in the sack for the other, sounds a bit implausible to me.

I hope it was a good looking Chimpanzee:eek:

Sulla Felix · 13-07-2014 04:22PM

cerastes wrote: »

Really :eek::pac:;)
Im sure the bush meat part might hold some truth, but you might want to be mad for something wild in the sack for the other, sounds a bit implausible to me.

Not at all. Look up "Pony" the orangutan who was rescued from a brothel in Borneo. There's some very fscked up people out there.

23-07-2014 09:08PM

The Chief Ebola Doctor in Sierra Leone now infected. Poor man.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28439941

Thrill · 24-07-2014 03:12PM

Reuters: state health ministry says a Liberian man in his 40s is being tested for the Ebola virus in Lagos in Nigeria

This would be the first recorded case of one of the world's deadliest diseases in Nigeria, Africa's biggest economy and most populous nation,

Lagos, described as a mega city, has a population of around 21 million (51,820/sq mi) (wiki)

The scale of an outbreak there would be unreal. Hope he tests negative.

EDIT:
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-liberian-man-in-nigerias-lagos-being-tested-for-ebola-2014-24

Drakares · 24-07-2014 03:47PM

OP wants to the world to die in waves of disease, famine and nuclear war....

Grayson · 24-07-2014 04:03PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Not at all. Look up "Pony" the orangutan who was rescued from a brothel in Borneo. There's some very fscked up people out there.

that is the most ****ed up think I have ever heard. It is all levels and types of ****ed up.

miss no stars · 26-09-2014 10:37PM

Did anyone see the documentary that was on C4 tonight about the ebola outbreak in Sierra Leone?

If you didn't, it's worth watching. I'm sure it'll be up on 4OD tomorrow.

It's just horrific. It's easy to know from an academic POV that ebola is horrific, but to see the people being brought away from their villages, sick and terrified, it's just awful. I don't actually know how to communicate the difference between reading the reports and then actually seeing - via TV - what's going on there. I feel like my eye's have been opened a bit, almost like someone shook me and woke me up. What's frightening is... That's only what's contained in a half hour TV programme.

Jesus. Heavy programming for a Friday evening.

blacklilly · 26-09-2014 10:49PM

I read an article just the other day about the outbreak (haven't read anything on it in a few weeks) and it was devastating to read. The human suffering being experienced is unimaginable and terrifying.

I know there are cultural and political issues at play with regards to containing the outbreak but it cannot be ignored that if this outbreak occurred in any developed country it would be treated by the international media a lot differently.

Unfortunately we still live in a whole where some people are treated as less important.

miss no stars · 26-09-2014 11:02PM

blacklilly wrote: »

I know there are cultural and political issues at play with regards to containing the outbreak but it cannot be ignored that if this outbreak occurred in any developed country it would be treated by the international media a lot differently.
.

I know. I was watching the documentary thinking this simply wouldn't happen in the west. This is only happening because black and brown lives are cheap. As soon as Americans got infected, suddenly there were emergency drug trials allowed and they recovered.

And then you think, sure no wonder the locals are suspicious.

And then you watch a young mother being brought away from her village, away from her husband and children to be quarantined. And it's only really when you see how terrifying the whole ordeal of being brought to quarantine is, on top of the terror of having Ebola... No wonder they're hiding at home.

Then they talk about victims vomiting, but it's pouring rain out and sure, there's no drains. And you can't help but feel that it's an impossible task, it can't be cured.

BMJD · 26-09-2014 11:03PM

that reminds me, 28 Days Later just started on Film 4 +1, thx

bb1234567 · 27-09-2014 12:22AM

blacklilly wrote: »

I read an article just the other day about the outbreak (haven't read anything on it in a few weeks) and it was devastating to read. The human suffering being experienced is unimaginable and terrifying.

I know there are cultural and political issues at play with regards to containing the outbreak but it cannot be ignored that if this outbreak occurred in any developed country it would be treated by the international media a lot differently.

Unfortunately we still live in a whole where some people are treated as less important.

Ebola was an incurable disease while it was killing Africans by the thousands but when two white americans contracted the disease suddenly a cure was found

blacklilly · 27-09-2014 06:40AM

In the most recent article I read on the issue. It explained how they don't admit anyone to quarantine during the night as it's too risky in terms of safety. When the doors are open in the morning they are always greeted by the corpse of at least one ebola victim who died while waiting over night.

Obviously even if they had have been permitted admission it's unlikely they would have survived, it just drives home the inhumanity of it all.

We complain daily about our health service, it has its problems but at least we have one. I don't believe anyone would be let die in agonising pain on the ground outside any hospital here. I'm not trying to use Africa as a benchmark but it really is nothing short of horrific the way in which our fellow humans are suffering there.

Fallschirmjager · 27-09-2014 08:28AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Ebola was an incurable disease while it was killing Africans by the thousands but when two white americans contracted the disease suddenly a cure was found

Seriously, let go of the anger. It's a drug that will be freely available when the FDA approve it. It's barely out of animal testing and then 2 guys showed up with Ebola, their own citizens. They literally had 2 to 4 doses and had to sign away any liability if it didn't work. They were so limited they asked one of the patients who should get it first. It's not a racist thing, it's a medical thing.

If you believe it's an American conspiracy, nothing stopping you getting your white coat and Bunsen burner out to develop your own solution to Ebola.

The reason America didn't offer it to Nigeria is simple. Suppose it causes death on a greater scale and before you rant they had 2 successes, almost killing one of them, that's not a large enough sample for approval. If it failed, Guess who gets blamed and sued and you will no doubt be here banging the drum saying the White Man is killing Africans. If you Don't believe me, this is what happened with potential aids vaccines. There is an agreed protocol for delivering medicine, it's there to avoid another Thalidomide disaster. So I guess the U.S. Government also wanted to kill their own? No doubt you have a conspiracy theory on that also.

Also nothing stopping Nigeria from developing there own drugs. One of the biggest oil reserves in Africa, other than there own political issues. So if you want to blame anyone how about, blame the governments in charge in Africa.

miss no stars · 27-09-2014 08:52AM

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

Seriously, let go of the anger. It's a drug that will be freely available when the FDA approve it. It's barely out of animal testing and then 2 guys showed up with Ebola, their own citizens. They literally had 2 to 4 doses and had to sign away any liability if it didn't work. They were so limited they asked one of the patients who should get it first. It's not a racist thing, it's a medical thing.

If you believe it's an American conspiracy, nothing stopping you getting your white coat and Bunsen burner out to develop your own solution to Ebola.

The reason America didn't offer it to Nigeria is simple. Suppose it causes death on a greater scale and before you rant they had 2 successes, almost killing one of them, that's not a large enough sample for approval. If it failed, Guess who gets blamed and sued and you will no doubt be here banging the drum saying the White Man is killing Africans. If you Don't believe me, this is what happened with potential aids vaccines. There is an agreed protocol for delivering medicine, it's there to avoid another Thalidomide disaster. So I guess the U.S. Government also wanted to kill their own? No doubt you have a conspiracy theory on that also.

Also nothing stopping Nigeria from developing there own drugs. One of the biggest oil reserves in Africa, other than there own political issues. So if you want to blame anyone how about, blame the governments in charge in Africa.

who said anything about Nigeria? Tbh, there IS a distrust of western medicine in the affected countries (Sierra Leone, Liberia) and the appearance of a cure as soon as westerners gef sick doesn't help that.

Mint Aero · 27-09-2014 09:09AM

No sh*t :rolleyes: I'm sorry but did anyone for even one second think "Africa" could handle this!?

Fallschirmjager · 27-09-2014 10:14AM

miss no stars wrote: »

who said anything about Nigeria? Tbh, there IS a distrust of western medicine in the affected countries (Sierra Leone, Liberia) and the appearance of a cure as soon as westerners gef sick doesn't help that.

Totally agree, but to clarify Nigeria asked for the drug after the success and the U.S. Govt denied it. Just to show you how rare this drug is

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/22/no-more-zmapp-ebola-treatment_n_5861142.html

Ebola Virus "beyond our control" in West Africa

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