Dublin Bus driver, "I'll run you over".

monument wrote: »

Dublin Bus and Luas must be looking for looking for trouble on a constant basis, they have even put cameras all around their buses / trams to capture it!!!

Exactly, the bus footage will show the unedited conversation they had, driver indicated in, cyclist sped up to be a hero, bus drivers noticed him and pulled back out, cyclists makes a song and dance about it to get attention, like all his other biased YouTube trash he puts up. He'll end up under a bus one day and I wont feel sorry for him

I would be willing to bet that the cyclist in question is probably reading this thread :pac: :pac: :pac:

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I would be willing to bet that the cyclist in question is probably reading this thread :pac: :pac: :pac:

F*ck him! :-D he's brave with his camera, I bet without it he's a complete pussy that wouldn't confront a thing without it

This thread is starting to turn into just plain ranting/name calling. If the discussion is finished, I'll be closing this.

billie1b wrote: »

Exactly, the bus footage will show the unedited conversation they had, driver indicated in, cyclist sped up to be a hero, bus drivers noticed him and pulled back out, cyclists makes a song and dance about it to get attention, like all his other biased YouTube trash he puts up. He'll end up under a bus one day and I wont feel sorry for him

ah sure he will probably leave behind a family maybe some kids but who gives a **** hes a bellend!

Darkglasses wrote: »

This thread is starting to turn into just plain ranting/name calling. If the discussion is finished, I'll be closing this.

You should. these rail crashes are nothing compared to 800 babies in a mass grave tbh.

Unknown Soldier wrote: »

Without reading that, I'd say that the comments are some muppetfest.
The Journal is pretty much as close as you would get to the toilet on the internet but irish.
They love their click bait though!

Ah but they don't pay Road tax!

Just for the non-Dub's out there, this is the cycle lane in question, a disaster of a road with an accident waiting to happen....the bus stop is just behind where that bin van/truck is parked..

billie1b wrote: »

Thats your interpretation, I have mine, the bus driver also waves to him to say sorry but 'The Cyclist' still goes at it, utter moron

Interpretation? Watch the video again. Cyclist is passing. THEN bus moves in on top of him. THEN he starts to indicate.

He was preparing to stop the bus and didn't check. He wasn't trying to dodge the other cyclists because they are moving across the lane to the right hand side, and even so a bus shouldn't be trying to duck and dodge around other traffic in town. They are too big and have too many blind spots. And like I said before, why would they be rushing?

ragazzo wrote: »

On this occasion it seems that the cyclist is looking for trouble. Sometimes a bit of cop on/commonsense is all that is needed.
No need to defend everyone just because they throw a leg over a bike now and again. That does not mean they are right.
This is a cycling thread so is pro cyclist but posters can also discuss the situation from different points of view without necessarily falling over themselves to pay homage to a rogue cyclist.

Someday he might make the George Hook half hour. They would be a nice couple!

I dont have to defend the driver either!!!

As someone who experiences this on my daily commute and my countless run ins with buses, taxis and white van drivers I tend to sympathise with him whether you view him as a hazard to mankind or not. all i see is the bus crossing that continuous white line and into the bike lane. Try outside the ifsc opposite busaras tomorrow and you will know what I mean.

Btw I dont know this lad. does the driver get 2 penalty points for crossing the continuous white line?!

morana wrote: »

does the driver get 2 penalty points for crossing the continuous white line?!

Should do:

(1) that was a cycle track delineated by a continuous white line that no vehicle should cross save in emergency or for access to a premises;
(2) the driver was in breach of the 'dangerous overtaking' penalty-point offence governed by SI No. 182 of 1997 (S. 10). A fine of €80 plus 2 penalty-points.

morana wrote: »

I dont have to defend the driver either!!!

As someone who experiences this on my daily commute and my countless run ins with buses, taxis and white van drivers I tend to sympathise with him whether you view him as a hazard to mankind or not. all i see is the bus crossing that continuous white line and into the bus lane. Try outside the ifsc opposite busaras tomorrow and you will know what I mean.

Any cyclist with half a brain knows to stay on the right of busses on that cycle lane , hell even when I'm driving I move to the right, there's a bus stop, a fairly tight bend, a pedestrian crossing and a tight left turn for the busses into busaras all in what maybe 30m? That's before you take into account the mayhem of traffic merging just before the bus stop and busses pulling out.

I'd say mr phelan would give himself a brain haemorrhage here with all the different situations to create and put on YouTube, hell he may even become a martyr.

cycleoin86 wrote: »

But the flip side of that is that cyclists should never be put in these situations. Bus should slow down until traffic to his left is clear and then pull in.

Totally. If the driver had slowed down until traffic to his left was clear there would have been no incident.

But I'm going to play devil's advocate, and perhaps project the scenario a bit into the future, and suggest that waiting for traffic to the left to clear could be a long wait, at least in a few years time when cycle traffic makes up 20% of all traffic in Dublin.:) If I were a passenger on a bus and the driver started pulling across to a stop and then stopped and braked to let a cyclist through - and then another one - and another one - and another one - and then the same thing happened again at the next stop and at the one after that - I would start to wonder whether it should really be legal for cyclists to undertake buses, or whether cyclists who are not confident overtaking buses (or don't have space to do so safely) shouldn't just hang behind them momentarily and let them get on with their job instead. At rush hour, you could easily get a non-stop stream of cyclists separating buses and stops on some routes.

In some cases, it may be possible to design infrastructure cleverly to minimize conflicts, but in general, I think people who want to use cycle infrastructure that runs between buses and bus stops, or between bus stop islands and the pavement, should be obliged to slow down or stop in order to let buses pull in or let passengers get off. All other cyclists can overtake buses instead of undertaking.

Here, I think it was perfectly legal for the cyclist in the video to undertake the bus. But I don't think it should be legal, in general, for a cyclist to undertake a bus that's about to pull in. (In the video, it seems that the driver doesn't start indicating until the cyclist is already well up on his inside, so I wouldn't expect the cyclist to have anticipated the bus stop and hung back, even if it was required of him - I wouldn't expect a cyclist to know exactly where all the bus stops are on every single road, never mind which buses stop at each.)