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Unpopular Alt/Indie Opinions

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  • 27-05-2014 9:55pm
    #1
    SilverScreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭


    Submarine is a better Whipping Boy album than Heartworm.

    Come at me bro :cool;


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    #2
    BrushyMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27 ✭BrushyMan


    Isn't Alt/Indie dead in the traditional sense?

    What was the last better than decent alt/indie record, The Postal Service's, 'Give Up'? (2003)


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    Rothko
    Registered Users Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Neon Bible is better than Funeral


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    #4
    SilverScreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    BrushyMan wrote: »
    Isn't Alt/Indie dead in the traditional sense?

    What was the last better than decent alt/indie record, The Postal Service's, 'Give Up'? (2003)
    The War on Drugs - Lost in the Dream. A couple of months ago.


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    Dandelion6
    Registered Users Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    Isn't Anything is better than Loveless


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    BrushyMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27 ✭BrushyMan


    SilverScreen wrote: »
    The War on Drugs - Lost in the Dream. A couple of months ago.

    Ah, come on! It's an OK record. Heaps of 'nothing new'. I'm not sold that it's a gamechanger tho.


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    seachto7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Slave Ambient is better imo. Still sailing too close to the 80s though, so not exactly ground breaking.


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    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,730 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    SilverScreen wrote: »
    Submarine is a better Whipping Boy album than Heartworm.

    Come at me bro :cool;

    I don't get Whipping Boy at all.

    I'm bewildered that it (HW) is consistently voted the best Irish album of all time - there's a reason it didn't do the business anywhere outside of Ireland.

    Furthermore Ireland's record of producing great indie bands is terrible compared to (say) Scotland:

    Primal Scream, Teenage Fanclub, Beta Band, Belle & Sebastian, Franz Ferdinand, JAMC, Django Django, Big Country - where are the Irish equivalents?

    Empty stadium rock & boybands - that's Ireland's musical legacy :(


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    The Wild Bunch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭The Wild Bunch


    Chicks in converse/flowers in their hair- does not make them 'indie'

    JJ72 were massively under-rated


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    Birneybau
    Registered Users Posts: 10,220 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    BrushyMan wrote: »
    Isn't Alt/Indie dead in the traditional sense?

    What was the last better than decent alt/indie record, The Postal Service's, 'Give Up'? (2003)

    That is crazy talk. Even regarding The Postal Service/Death Cab for Cutie as decent alt/indie is frankly shocking. There's been a heap of great albums in the last 11 years.


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    Birneybau
    Registered Users Posts: 10,220 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    I really don't agree with the hype surrounding Future Islands.

    Th Horrors should be huge, one stone cold masterpiece in "Primary Colours", one fantastic album in "Skying" and still too early to judge "Luminous" but I'm enjoying it.


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    karaokeman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭karaokeman


    Radiohead reached their artistic peak with Kid A.

    The Second Coming is a fantastic album, not as good as The Stone Roses' debut, but pretty close.


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    Hotale.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    The term "alternative" is in itself extremely pretentious, and the term "indie" has lost it's meaning for the most part.


    :)


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    daUbiq
    Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭daUbiq


    seachto7 wrote: »
    Slave Ambient is better imo. Still sailing too close to the 80s though, so not exactly ground breaking.

    What's wrong with the eighties?


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    daUbiq
    Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭daUbiq


    loyatemu wrote: »
    I don't get Whipping Boy at all.

    I'm bewildered that it (HW) is consistently voted the best Irish album of all time - there's a reason it didn't do the business anywhere outside of Ireland.

    Furthermore Ireland's record of producing great indie bands is terrible compared to (say) Scotland:

    Primal Scream, Teenage Fanclub, Beta Band, Belle & Sebastian, Franz Ferdinand, JAMC, Django Django, Big Country - where are the Irish equivalents?

    Empty stadium rock & boybands - that's Ireland's musical legacy :(

    Rollerskate Skinny were pretty good!


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    seachto7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    daUbiq wrote: »
    What's wrong with the eighties?

    Nothing, but to call War on Drugs ground breaking would be stretching it seeing as he/they tip their hat to the 80s.

    Still very good though.


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    seachto7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    loyatemu wrote: »
    I don't get Whipping Boy at all.

    I'm bewildered that it (HW) is consistently voted the best Irish album of all time - there's a reason it didn't do the business anywhere outside of Ireland.

    Well, they got on Jools Holland, which was a good platform. Who knows? Maybe there were label or management issues too that hindered them?

    Add in the fact the singer was nuts,and they fell out with each other in the band, how could this possibly work in terms of furthering their careers.

    While the album might not be as good as people say it is, it's still better than a lot of sh*te that did well around the world from the same time period.


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    The Wild Bunch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭The Wild Bunch


    Why does Glenn Hansard look so tormented, sad and desolate in every bloody picture of him?


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    #19
    fiachr_a
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fiachr_a


    The Wild Bunch wrote: »
    Why does Glenn Hansard look so tormented, sad and desolate in every bloody picture of him?
    Because he grew up in Finglas and got bullied at school?


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    Birneybau
    Registered Users Posts: 10,220 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    The Wild Bunch wrote: »
    Why does Glenn Hansard look so tormented, sad and desolate in every bloody picture of him?

    I'd be the same if I was Glen Hansard.


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    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Interpol's "Antics" is better than "Turn on The Bright Lights".


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    #22
    smokedeels
    Registered Users Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭smokedeels


    Breeders > Pixies
    Sebadoh > Dinosaur Jr


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    The Wild Bunch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭The Wild Bunch


    Arctic Monkeys are over rated


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    #24
    daUbiq
    Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭daUbiq


    seachto7 wrote: »
    Nothing, but to call War on Drugs ground breaking would be stretching it seeing as he/they tip their hat to the 80s.

    Still very good though.

    I quite like the new War on Drugs album, I find it quite uplifting... you're right though, it's not ground breaking, very little modern popular music is ground breaking!


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    SilverScreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    BrushyMan wrote: »
    Ah, come on! It's an OK record. Heaps of 'nothing new'. I'm not sold that it's a gamechanger tho.
    Never said it was a game-changer. I just gave it as a recent example of an album that I think is better than decent.


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    #26
    Morgans
    Registered Users Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Promenade by The Divine Comedy is the greatest Irish album of all time.


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    #27
    mosstin
    Registered Users Posts: 6,103 ✭✭✭mosstin


    Morgans wrote: »
    Promenade by The Divine Comedy is the greatest Irish album of all time.

    Viva Dead Ponies by Fatima Mansions is the greatest Irish album of all time. :D Cathal Coughlan is also the finest lyricist this country has produced.


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    #28
    Dandelion6
    Registered Users Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    Speaking of Cathal Coughlan here's a really unpopular opinion: Microdisney were boring.


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    #29
    mosstin
    Registered Users Posts: 6,103 ✭✭✭mosstin


    Dandelion6 wrote: »
    Speaking of Cathal Coughlan here's a really unpopular opinion: Microdisney were boring.

    Apart from a few great songs would not disagree.


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    #30
    iomega
    Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭iomega


    smokedeels wrote: »
    Breeders > Pixies

    Funny.


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    #31
    mosstin
    Registered Users Posts: 6,103 ✭✭✭mosstin


    The Irish music alternative music scene, such as it is, is almost uniformly dreadful. Too self-celebrating, po-faced and safe.


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