Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

Agueroooo · 29-05-2014 08:31AM

Dickerty wrote: »

One that has been overlooked somewhat (with all the clamour about Rossiter, McLoughlin and Teix), I see that Lloyd Jones has started the last 2 England U19 games, along with Ibe. Jones played for Wales a U17, so they only his clearance to switch, and he is in the side.

He's a monster of a kid, 6'3" at 18 years of age and already filled out more than the likes of Kelly was at that age. He has been a mainstay of the U21s, made 20 starts last season, usually alongside Paez. We did concede a few last season, but out midfield isn't very good at protecting the two big CBs. He could save us a lot of money in a couple of years...

very true.

I want to see him and Paez partner up more, as I think they could be big players for the future in a dept that we have suffered with for years now.

Francie Barrett · 29-05-2014 08:45AM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Has anyone been watching him much on loan in Spain? If he leaves could it be a decision that the club may be left ruing down the line?

Watched about half the games. The big problem for Suso was that the quality of football played at Almeria was really low. Other than the Barcelona loanee, link up between Almeria players in the final third was awful, and often it was up to Suso to single-handedly pull some magic out of the bag to put a pass or cross in for an attacker. It meant Suso spent large parts of the game either defending or trying high-risk dribbles/passes because the nearest player to him could have been 30-40 yards away. In fairness though, he never gave up and his goals/assists tally is decent considering the difficulties he faced.

For me, there are other players less suited to the club that we should be offloading (Aspas, Luis Alberto, I'd also probably even have Borini in there).

Sappy404 · 29-05-2014 08:46AM

Dickerty wrote: »

But in really, they won't start on an equal footing. And every time Migs makes an error, there will be a clambour to replace him. I don't know if it improves us. It worked at United with Lindegard and De Gea, the latter picked up his game in the face of competition, but he was a young keeper and had some maturing to do anyway...

Lindegaard was signed before De Gea IIRC. Personally I think ~£5m for Vorm is good business. I can't think of a better keeper for that price.

Dickerty · 29-05-2014 08:49AM

Some of our youths need new photos taken!

Sheyi Ojo - "Mom, I got in another fight in school - but is wanna my fault!!"

Kristof Polgar - "Is this the line for the One Direction tribute band auditions??"

Ron Vlaar - "Hi, I'm young Ron Vlaar..."

Dharius Waldron - "Tyroil Smoochie Wallace - University of Miami..."

Dickerty · 29-05-2014 08:54AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

Lindegaard was signed before De Gea IIRC. Personally I think ~£5m for Vorm is good business. I can't think of a better keeper for that price.

If we could get him for that, I could live with it! But he's put his place in the Dutch squad at risk is not playing...

I think Lindergaard was there under VDS, but De Gea was signing as a starter. When Lindergaard was brought in, it certainly kicked De Gea up the Bishop Brennan and once he got back in, his level was much improved...

Francie Barrett · 29-05-2014 08:58AM

I do not want to mess with Dharius Waldron....

mike65 · 29-05-2014 09:03AM

Dickerty wrote: »

One that has been overlooked somewhat (with all the clamour about Rossiter, McLoughlin and Teix), I see that Lloyd Jones has started the last 2 England U19 games, along with Ibe. Jones played for Wales a U17, so they only got his clearance to switch, and he is in the side.

He's a monster of a kid, 6'3" at 18 years of age and already filled out more than the likes of Kelly was at that age. He has been a mainstay of the U21s, made 20 starts last season, usually alongside Paez. We did concede a few last season, but our midfield isn't very good at protecting the two big CBs. He could save us a lot of money in a couple of years...

Some one of us had already noted Jones elevation to the England U19s! That squad overall looks rather better than the U21s/Toulon crowd right now.

Francie Barrett · 29-05-2014 09:06AM

MrBoywunder @MrBoywunder

#LFC are on the verge of poaching another youngster from Valencia, Fran Villalba, leaving them up in arms with the Anfield outfit. (Marca)

mike65 · 29-05-2014 09:08AM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

MrBoywunder @MrBoywunder

#LFC are on the verge of poaching another youngster from Valencia, Fran Villalba, leaving them up in arms with the Anfield outfit. (Marca)

Ah now, this child trafficing has to stop!

Further to the above - Dani Parejo is also linked from Valencia but the bad blood over Chirivella and now Villalba is not going to help according to this

http://www.footballdirectnews.com/liverpool-fc-transfer-news/50546-valencia-will-not-sell-parejo-to-liverpool.php

Knex* · 29-05-2014 09:09AM

Dickerty wrote: »

Dharius Waldron - "Tyroil Smoochie Wallace - University of Miami..."

The U!

Had forgotten about that skit, actually. Quality.

Dickerty · 29-05-2014 09:10AM

mike65 wrote: »

Some one of us had already noted Jones elevation to the England U19s! That squad overall looks rather better than the U21s/Toulon crowd right now.

I had noticed, but after Ibe scored a hat trick in the first game, all the focus was naturally on him.

Agree on the U20 side, there is a lot of fillers in there. But they are not just putting out the best/most experienced team, as Butland, McEachran and Berahino were all on the bench. And Sterling, Shaw and Barkley all with the senior side...

Turtyturd · 29-05-2014 09:13AM

mike65 wrote: »

Ah now, this child trafficing has to stop!

A couple of Dharius' growth hormones and he'll be in the starting line up by Christmas.

Dickerty · 29-05-2014 09:16AM

To be fair, he looks like this more recently -

Francisco+J+Villalba+U16+International+England1-220x300.jpg

SlickRic · 29-05-2014 09:44AM

well would you believe it...

Manchester United legend Paul Scholes has urged England boss Roy Hodgson to emulate Liverpool's attacking style of play at the World Cup in Brazil.

Scholes said Liverpool's "swagger" this season, in which they fell just short of a first league title since 1990, reminded him of "United at their best".

"It would be refreshing for England to adopt Liverpool's attacking mentality," said Scholes.

"That means four - and possibly five - Liverpool players in the starting XI."

Liverpool, rejuvenated under manager Brendan Rodgers, scored 101 goals in the league this season as they finished just two points adrift of champions Manchester City.

They topped the table with three matches to go but faltered to let City claim their second title in three years.

Nevertheless, Liverpool's performances impressed Scholes.

"The thing I admired most was the swagger of their play and how they terrorised opponents, which reminded me of United at their best," he wrote in a blog for bookmakers Paddy Power.

At the heart of Liverpool's rise were captain Steven Gerrard, Daniel Sturridge, Raheem Sterling, Jordan Henderson and Glen Johnson, who are all in Hodgson's 23-man squad.

"I'd definitely start with Gerrard, Sturridge, Henderson and Sterling," said Scholes. "The question mark is Johnson at right-back."

a smart man is Scholes.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27617201

Sappy404 · 29-05-2014 09:46AM

Dickerty wrote: »

To be fair, he looks like this more recently -

So is he the next Xavi, the Spanish Messi, just really good to sign in Football Manager?

mike65 · 29-05-2014 09:47AM

**** tackler though!

"The question mark is Johnson at right-back."

Not wrong about this however, maybe playing in a slightly different environment will give him a boost.

OH Real after Aguero according to the Star (yeah yeah), hopefully there is a shred of truth in it.

Knex* · 29-05-2014 09:48AM

Johnson barely deserves to be at the WC, let alone start.

Turtyturd · 29-05-2014 09:51AM

Sappy404 wrote: »

So is he the next Xavi, the Spanish Messi, just really good to sign in Football Manager?

The Spanish Joe Allen.

skywalker · 29-05-2014 10:00AM

SlickRic wrote: »

well would you believe it...

a smart man is Scholes.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27617201

I actually quite enjoyed seeing him as a pundit a few weeks back (cant remember the game) He came across as knowledgeable, honest & unbiased. Wouldnt mind hearing more from him in that role.

Dickerty · 29-05-2014 10:01AM

Turtyturd wrote: »

The Spanish Joe Allen.

Who is, in turn, the Welsh Charlie Adam...

Nerdlingr · 29-05-2014 10:10AM

skywalker wrote: »

I actually quite enjoyed seeing him as a pundit a few weeks back (cant remember the game) He came across as knowledgeable, honest & unbiased. Wouldnt mind hearing more from him in that role.

Think it was the Manchester Derby he did that time. I'd pretty much agree with everything he seems to have said recently (wilshere, moyes, rooney, arsenal having no leaders etc). He very understated in what he says and doesnt constantly go for the soundbite like Keane.

Agueroooo · 29-05-2014 10:10AM

...................and Chelsea have entered the Moreno race.

not like them to let another club do all the donkey work first.

Dickerty · 29-05-2014 10:12AM

Agueroooo wrote: »

...................and Chelsea have entered the Moreno race.

not like them to let another club do all the donkey work first.

In case they don't get Shaw?

mike65 · 29-05-2014 10:14AM

They have been linked along with Man Utd, Arsenal for a while. Chelsea can throw them a better player than Suso - could it be the difference? On the other hand if they want Luke Shaw it would be overkill even by their standards.

brevity · 29-05-2014 10:32AM

@Liddellpool: #LFC have made bids for Adam Lallana, Xherdan Shaqiri, Emre Can and Dejan Lovren http://t.co/KJGG6f5fU9

Dickerty · 29-05-2014 10:41AM

mike65 wrote: »

They have been linked along with Man Utd, Arsenal for a while. Chelsea can throw them a better player than Suso - could it be the difference? On the other hand if they want Luke Shaw it would be overkill even by their standards.

Maybe someone like Atsu, or Thorgen Hazard? Certainly they can offer more in that regard, but who is to say he'll want to go there and fight for his place with Az?

Dickerty · 29-05-2014 10:43AM

brevity wrote: »

@Liddellpool: #LFC have made bids for Adam Lallana, Xherdan Shaqiri, Emre Can and Dejan Lovren http://t.co/KJGG6f5fU9

That's actually a decent account, not just chasing hits.
I wouldn't be surprised if all were true, doesn't mean we will get any of them though.

Rodgers said a while back that we would sign a few defenders, so maybe add Moreno to that list?

djPSB · 29-05-2014 10:46AM

Back 4 below would be very decent.

Flanagan-Lovren-Sakho-Moreno

shamrock55 · 29-05-2014 10:47AM

Real madrid are looking to sign aguero for 60m lets hope this is true, although it came from ssn:rolleyes:, also that chelsea willing to let go of hazard for 60m to psg

Mickalus · 29-05-2014 10:51AM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Real madrid are looking to sign aguero for 60m lets hope this is true, although it came from ssn:rolleyes:, also that chelsea willing to let go of hazard for 60m to psg

If Real did buy Aguero, next step for City is a bid for Suarez...
Chelsea would be nuts to sell Hazard.

Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

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