Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

Agueroooo · 13-05-2014 10:35AM

Devilman40k wrote: »

They contact you once it has arrived at the store. There's a tracking code in the confirmation email they sent when you purchased...

I got a screen receipt when I competed the transaction which I have printed off, but come to think of it I never got an email.

Grayditch · 13-05-2014 10:35AM

I bet they grip the bag tight when you're taking it from their hands, and whisper "You might think you won, but you didn't".

But, you did, yeah.

Unless they mean the league. In which case, knock over the the sock rack and leggit.

K-9 · 13-05-2014 10:42AM

Looks like there'll be some hell of a load of tantrums when Santa doesn't deliver, that is above and beyond the normal transfer muppetry levels which is pretty special as it is. I just don't see the point in having a meltdown over stuff that has very little chance of happening in reality.

£50 Million + Sales, say £65 Million would be FSG's biggest transfer spend in a single window by a distance. £20 Million or so on Lallana leaves enough to get a LB, RB and a CM at a minimum. A lot depends on the outs, Reina is a cert and I'd say one of Agger/Skrtel and Johnson likely. There isn't a lot of dead wood to replace so we are in a much better position than we've been for 5 years or so.

Lallana shows the signs of a player who is consistently improving each season. There's a snobbery because he's English and came up through the leagues, that policy stood the club well in the past before the likes of super star Kono, who tears up the Ukranian league, became must buys.

Morzadec · 13-05-2014 10:51AM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

We know that Coates made the Uraguay squad, did Suarez make it?

I've been looking at the players leaving Swansea, and there is one name that jumps out at me (not N'gog) who I think would make a excellent addition for us. De Guzman's loan spell is up, and Swansea are going to try re-new it for next season. I reckon we should vulture in and snap him up.

Has been in a team for 2 years with similar playing style.
Has Prem League experience.
Can take a free kick.
Has Champions League experience.
Has some international caps for Holland.

Certainly a signing I could get on board with as further CM backup, assuming he wouldn't be too pricy? Between 5-10m?

He has a huge amount of experience at a good level for someone of his age and I've always been quite impressed with him whenever I've seen him.

I also like your invented verb 'to vulture in'

Morzadec · 13-05-2014 10:56AM

K-9 wrote: »

Looks like there'll be some hell of a load of tantrums when Santa doesn't deliver, that is above and beyond the normal transfer muppetry levels which is pretty special as it is. I just don't see the point in having a meltdown over stuff that has very little chance of happening in reality.

£50 Million + Sales, say £65 Million would be FSG's biggest transfer spend in a single window by a distance. £20 Million or so on Lallana leaves enough to get a LB, RB and a CM at a minimum. A lot depends on the outs, Reina is a cert and I'd say one of Agger/Skrtel and Johnson likely. There isn't a lot of dead wood to replace so we are in a much better position than we've been for 5 years or so.

Lallana shows the signs of a player who is consistently improving each season. There's a snobbery because he's English and came up through the leagues, that policy stood the club well in the past before the likes of super star Kono, who tears up the Ukranian league, became must buys.

Some of my reservations about Lallana are pretty similar to the reservations I expressed about Aspas who is Spanish - it has nothing to so with the fact he's English, it is based on his record alone

If he had the same record in Spain or Italy or Germany I would think it was an awfully high fee too, and a bit of an uninspiring 'number 1 target' (as he is being quoted in the Echo) given the fact that we are now a hugely attractive proposition for attacking players all accross Europe

13-05-2014 10:59AM

googled eyes wrote: »

While I agree that with Gerrard in his new role they do compliment each other. He has a point.

Until Gerrard got injured I always felt Hendo was a bit awestruck to have Gerrard beside him in midfield. He would look to pass rather than try something himself.
Gerrard being out definitely spured Hendo on to realise his potential

Henderson was very good in 2012/13 2nd half of the season. He just improved another level again this season.

Next captain in waiting imo

redzerdrog · 13-05-2014 11:05AM

K-9 wrote: »

Looks like there'll be some hell of a load of tantrums when Santa doesn't deliver, that is above and beyond the normal transfer muppetry levels which is pretty special as it is. I just don't see the point in having a meltdown over stuff that has very little chance of happening in reality.

£50 Million + Sales, say £65 Million would be FSG's biggest transfer spend in a single window by a distance. £20 Million or so on Lallana leaves enough to get a LB, RB and a CM at a minimum. A lot depends on the outs, Reina is a cert and I'd say one of Agger/Skrtel and Johnson likely. There isn't a lot of dead wood to replace so we are in a much better position than we've been for 5 years or so.

Lallana shows the signs of a player who is consistently improving each season. There's a snobbery because he's English and came up through the leagues, that policy stood the club well in the past before the likes of super star Kono, who tears up the Ukranian league, became must buys.

You make a good point regarding Lallana and I have been a fan of his for a number of years but my worry is that he is not the type of player I think we need at the moment. He is best played in the AM position which is also Coutinho's best position and I don't think there is a lot of difference in the quality of the two players but Coutinho's has more improvement in him I feel, add that to the fact Sterling has also flourished in the AM role I don't think it is and area we need improvement in compared with the rest of the team.

Id prefer we went for an attacking wide player who can also play centrally rather than an attacking central player who can do a job out wide if you get what I mean?

Agueroooo · 13-05-2014 11:06AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Henderson was very good in 2012/13 2nd half of the season. He just improved another level again this season.

Next captain in waiting imo

Im expecting a big World Cup from Henderson.

Dickerty · 13-05-2014 11:07AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Henderson was very good in 2012/13 2nd half of the season. He just improved another level again this season.

Next captain in waiting imo

Yep, was thinking the same thing. Very steady-eddy character, says all the right things, and is now one of only 6 names always on the team sheet (along with Migs, Stevie and the SSS). Losing Stevie from that list, he's the best option...

murpho999 · 13-05-2014 11:09AM

K-9 wrote: »

Looks like there'll be some hell of a load of tantrums when Santa doesn't deliver, that is above and beyond the normal transfer muppetry levels which is pretty special as it is. I just don't see the point in having a meltdown over stuff that has very little chance of happening in reality.

£50 Million + Sales, say £65 Million would be FSG's biggest transfer spend in a single window by a distance. £20 Million or so on Lallana leaves enough to get a LB, RB and a CM at a minimum. A lot depends on the outs, Reina is a cert and I'd say one of Agger/Skrtel and Johnson likely. There isn't a lot of dead wood to replace so we are in a much better position than we've been for 5 years or so.

Lallana shows the signs of a player who is consistently improving each season. There's a snobbery because he's English and came up through the leagues, that policy stood the club well in the past before the likes of super star Kono, who tears up the Ukranian league, became must buys.

How much did we spend in 2011 when we bought Henderson and Downing etc? That must have been close to £50m?

dubdamo · 13-05-2014 11:11AM

Catalan Daily Sport reporting that Mascherano wants to return to Anfield, could add a bit of steel to the midfield ?

Agueroooo · 13-05-2014 11:12AM

dubdamo wrote: »

Catalan Daily Sport reporting that Mascherano wants to return to Anfield, could add a bit of steel to the midfield ?

question shouldn't even be asked..get him!

aint he at the end of his current contract?

mike65 · 13-05-2014 11:14AM

Does anyone think Michu would be a mad punt? Sure he's old and spent most of the season injured scoring just two league goals but that also means his price will have collapsed when compared to 12 month ago - sell Aspas back to La Liga.

PropJoe10 · 13-05-2014 11:15AM

dubdamo wrote: »

Catalan Daily Sport reporting that Mascherano wants to return to Anfield, could add a bit of steel to the midfield ?

I wouldnt have thought he would really fit into our current style of play but he's very experienced, a winner, and can play DM and CB. If we could get him very cheap/on a free, then I'd be all for it. Wasnt a fan of the way he left the club but I forgave him when he dedicated his Champions League win against United to the Liverpool fans.

Grayditch · 13-05-2014 11:15AM

Did he break up with his wife? Wasn't one of the reason he gave, that she wanted to be closer to her family?

It'd be REALLY nice to not ship loads of goals.

EDIT: Nevermind, he claims Liverpool said that, which seems to have annoyed him.

Chucky the tree · 13-05-2014 11:17AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Henderson was very good in 2012/13 2nd half of the season. He just improved another level again this season.

Next captain in waiting imo

Considering most agree the guy shrinks a bit because he plays alongside Gerrard why would you want him as captain? Also he seemed to struggle with the price tag/step up from Sunderland. To me he just doesn't have the un-wavering mental strength I'd want from my a captain.

mike65 · 13-05-2014 11:18AM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Ugh, serious? Considering most agree the guy shrinks a bit because he plays alongside Gerrard why would you want him as captain? Also he seemed to struggle with the price tag/step up from Sunderland. To me he just doesn't have the un-wavering mental strength I'd want from my a captain.

Do you think he is the same player as the one of 12 months ago, never mind two year ago?

Dickerty · 13-05-2014 11:26AM

Agueroooo wrote: »

question shouldn't even be asked..get him!

aint he at the end of his current contract?

Looks like he has 2 years left, but at 29, you could probably get him for £8M or so, which would be money very well spent. We desperately need cover in front of the back 4, even if that back 4 is improved. If we are to continue playing attacking FBs, that holding player needs to be more naturally defensive than Stevie is. And Stevie is probably only starting for one more season, so we have to look beyond that - Masc would be a good buy for 3/4 seasons still...

SuperTortoise · 13-05-2014 11:26AM

To be honest i don't think anyone is arguing over Lalanna's ability, we'd all pretty much agree he would be a good addition to the team, what some are saying and myself included is 25m is too much for him, i feel his true value is somewhere in the 15m park and we'd be paying another 5-10m just because he's English and coming for an English team.

I'd rather we sort out a RB, LB, and CB that can slot straight into the team, after that i'd address getting another keeper in, that may not be a popular view but i have no confidence in Mignolet, sure he is a good shot stopper but he's a keeper, he'd want to be!
He is'nt a leader at the back, he is'nt particulary good in the air and he's prone to the odd blunder.
I'd love us to have a go at Lloris, but i fear we would have to pay silly money for him seeing as he'd be going to their direct competition, in any case what do you think he could be got for?

klose · 13-05-2014 11:28AM

15-20 mill is the kind of money we need to be spending on players in the summer if we are to push on. 5-10 million players gets you aspas/alberto and punts that may work out.

Chucky the tree · 13-05-2014 11:29AM

mike65 wrote: »

Do you think he is the same player as the one of 12 months ago, never mind two year ago?

No he's improved a lot. I don't think he's mentally what I want from a captain though. I've never seen him rallying the other players on the pitch, never seen him organising things and never seen him stamp his authority over a game. What has he shown that would make him a great captain?

K-9 · 13-05-2014 11:38AM

Morzadec wrote: »

Some of my reservations about Lallana are pretty similar to the reservations I expressed about Aspas who is Spanish - it has nothing to so with the fact he's English, it is based on his record alone

If he had the same record in Spain or Italy or Germany I would think it was an awfully high fee too, and a bit of an uninspiring 'number 1 target' (as he is being quoted in the Echo) given the fact that we are now a hugely attractive proposition for attacking players all accross Europe

It seems on the high side but maybe the club doesn't want more protracted sagas and is prepared to offer a few million more to get him. The other thing is he seems to want to come to us for football reasons, (remember Siggurdson) wages aren't that high and less chance of getting vultured.

Tbh his track record is very consistent, stand out player in League 1, then Championship, a season to establish himself in the PL and then a stand out season. He looks like a player who would suit us as well. It's a bit over priced but its a better track record than Henderson when we paid similar type money.

Its all early days yet.

K-9 · 13-05-2014 11:45AM

murpho999 wrote: »

How much did we spend in 2011 when we bought Henderson and Downing etc? That must have been close to £50m?

Adam and nearly forgot about Enrique, about £50 Million all right, Meireles left.

klose wrote: »

15-20 mill is the kind of money we need to be spending on players in the summer if we are to push on. 5-10 million players gets you aspas/alberto and punts that may work out.

An attacking player and CM is going to be 15 up anyway. Full backs and reserve goalkeepers should be in the 5-12 Million range I'd have thought.

googled eyes · 13-05-2014 11:53AM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

No he's improved a lot. I don't think he's mentally what I want from a captain though. I've never seen him rallying the other players on the pitch, never seen him organising things and never seen him stamp his authority over a game. What has he shown that would make him a great captain?

While I don't see him getting the Captaincy with Stevie and Suarez at the club he could do it in the future.

Remember Hendo was the under England 21s captain.

Who do you think could do the job ?

Chucky the tree · 13-05-2014 11:59AM

googled eyes wrote: »

While I don't see him getting the Captaincy with Stevie and Suarez at the club he could do it in the future.

Remember Hendo was the under England 21s captain.

Who do you think could do the job ?

Maybe Sakho, hard to know how much the language barrier has held him back this year. I know he's captained PSG a good few times already despite being very young. Outside of that there isn't anyone in the current squad who I think would be very good.

What do people think Henderson would make a good captain?

jcsoulinger · 13-05-2014 12:04PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

No he's improved a lot. I don't think he's mentally what I want from a captain though. I've never seen him rallying the other players on the pitch, never seen him organising things and never seen him stamp his authority over a game. What has he shown that would make him a great captain?

When he was suspended for those three games, Rodgers spoke very highly of his character in the dressing room.

That suspension coinsided with one win in three.

When he was being forced out of the club he stood his ground and proved everyone wrong.

The boy is still very young could be a very good leader when given that responsibility.

13-05-2014 12:04PM

Tim Sherwood has got the boot from Spurs. No surprise really.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/spurs-part-with-sherwood-630411.html

LuckyLloyd · 13-05-2014 12:05PM

Battle lines getting drawn for the summer already. I'm ready for a fight anyway.

asdfgh86 · 13-05-2014 12:05PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

RE: Future Captain
Maybe Sakho

I don't think Sakho is, or will be, good enough for our first 11, let alone captain. But I know a lot of people will disagree with me.

googled eyes · 13-05-2014 12:06PM

Keep forgetting Sakho was PSG captain. Once he sorts out the language he could do it also.

I don't know why people think Hendo could do it. Its just a feeling I get about the fella.

Great to have these options.

Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

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