Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

Hoki wrote: »

Are you going to pay his wages? Thats a weird argument you're putting forward for not signing an excellent attacking left back who would slot in perfectly with us.

I think there are better we could get for the outlay, has not really impressed me the last two years

viper006 wrote: »

I worry however though that if we have another poor window with dragged out transfers it could be very hard to repeat last season. I rather have shaw for 27m to be honest than Lallana for 22m being touted.

In fairness we are probably not in a position to blow near 30M on a full-back. It may be a better use of the resources available to spend 20M of that money on a quality attacking player and still have 10M left over to use somewhere else.

If money wasn't an object I'd say sure, fire in a big bid for Shaw no problem.

See Swansea have released Ngog - just three appearances and no goals. Never really saw anything in his at any stage of his career that indicated he could be good but I suppose that's the kind of bargain bin signing we were reduced to under Hicks and Gillett.

Even in the clubs position of balancing the books, I would imagine it's not too much to ask for an outlay of £50m plus sales now that we are in the CL?

Far be it from me to tell Rodgers what to do, but Lallana, Williams, Caulker seem like players we could have attracted without CL football.

All I hope is that we're really using this new position to our advantage.

Maybe Muller and Martinez are fairy-tale signings but I do hope we are in for the type of player that really adds a lot of quality to the squad.

With Borini, Wisdom, Suso back from loan, Enrique (hopefully) back from injury, we could arguably have part of the squad depth issues sorted next year.

It's not like we have to sign 8 players just because we're in Europe next year - I would hope the types of punts we took on Aspas and Alberto in the summer are not the type of transfer we are considering this summer, because we don't need to stretch even our somewhat modest budget too much. We have plenty of players.

With maybe £60m to spend, if a really big player becomes available I would hope we would be enquiring at least.

For now, that Kono lad looks like he could be at the level which was possibly just out of our reach last season with Costa, Micky and Willian.

All I'm hoping for is that we really take full advantage of our CL status. In the end I trust Rodgers, he overall has a good record and I don't watch near enough football to really suggest what he does, but the potential signing of Lallana for £20m-plus reminds me a bit of the type of signings and the type of overpaying we would be doing under Dalglish.

For example, would the likes of Rakitic not be similar but better? Surely for a similar price he would be available? A lot of talk of Kroos to United, but why, theoretically, could we not be in the discussion?

While competing for established World Class stars might be a step too far, surely we can be one of the first in line for the best players in Europe waiting to make the step up (Rakitic, Kono, Griezmann, who else is on this list?).


Lallana, Williams, Caulker - I'm just not quite sure they fit into this category, and we could have gotten them had we finished 7th. That's what was probably the most exciting thing, and most important thing about qualifying for the CL - not just the money, but the access to a higher bracket of player.

MR NINE wrote: »

The fact we are operating on a limited budget is exactly the reason I am suggesting approaching him, or possibly sagna whos contract is expiring. Our defence needs to improve significantly next season. I think the majority of our efforts this summer should be focused towards improving our defense. We cant afford to spend silly money on shaw/coleman so I think signing a good experienced full back for two years in a deal costing rougly 10m pounds is a viable option. He would help provide leadership, which we are sorely lacking, and he would buy time for wisdom and flanagan, possibly even mclaughlin to continue developing so that we can assess them in a couple years when they might be more capable of adopting a regular first team starting position.

I think Johnson should be shipped as his performances dont justify his wages, cole/sagna I believe have more good seasons in them and would justify their wages for a couple seasons and we can then address the position when we will hopefully have established ourselves as top four regulars and will have a healthier budget to operate with. We are gonna play 50+ games next season, we need more than an injured enrique and an out of position prospect to cover left back. Any other approach is likely gonna result in a >10m transfer fee and wages to boot, an outlay we probably cant afford right now considering 5 or 6 additions are required

Do we need 5 or 6 signings? I would've thought maybe 4 first-team signings could be enough.

I think we could probably afford to pay for a left-back. We could possibly need a right-back too.

If my rough guess at £50m plus sales (lets say maybe £10m for Aspas, Assaidi and whatever other dross is lying about) is correct then we could potentially spend it this way:

1. Kono or similar - £20m
2. Centre-mid -£20m
3. Left back - £10m
4. Another defender depending what happens with sales, maybe a CB or RB - £10m

These type of fantasy situations never go to plan but there's my rough attempt.

We have some very decent players coming back from loan capable of providing a lot of the cover we need to compete on more fronts next year.

Vanolder wrote: »

What ever happened to Yesil???

Did his cruciate again in October. He's ****ed I'd say.

Morzadec wrote: »

Do we need 5 or 6 signings? I would've thought maybe 4 first-team signings could be enough.

I think we could probably afford to pay for a left-back. We could possibly need a right-back too.

If my rough guess at £50m plus sales (lets say maybe £10m for Aspas, Assaidi and whatever other dross is lying about) is correct then we could potentially spend it this way:

1. Kono or similar - £20m
2. Centre-mid -£20m
3. Left back - £10m
4. Another defender depending what happens with sales, maybe a CB or RB - £10m

These type of fantasy situations never go to plan but there's my rough attempt.

We have some very decent players coming back from loan capable of providing a lot of the cover we need to compete on more fronts next year.

As you say, these fantasy football situations never come close to materialising, but to illustrate my point ill give it a shot.

I dont necessarily think these departures will happen but what i think we should do this summer is:

Ditch johnson-two years of bad form is long enough for me to think it is no longer form
Ditch Lucas - hasnt been the same since his injuries, isnt suited to our high energy counter attacking style of football at all

Sign a first team quality left back and right back, players who are good enough to slot straight into the first eleven. Use Wisdom Flanagan and Enrique as back up.

Sign a holding midfielder who can deputise for Gerrard and provide competetition for other midfielders and offer us the option of an alternative system with a 2-1 midfield rather than a 1-2 when necessary. Basically an upgrade on lucas, preferably someone who is more mobile and energetic. Gerrard will not be capable of starting 50 games imo so we will need a high quality deputy and partner available.

Sign another attacking option. This is likely gonna be lallana, or possibly kono. Suarez sturridge coutinho sterling borini suso henderson allen ibe and a quality first teamer should give us enough options and depth for the season.

The two final issues are centre back and a back up keeper. If reina is staying we will be alright for gk but i dont think he will be staying. Im not comfortable with Jones as our back up keeper as I dont think he is near good enough to be called upon should mignolet miss any period of games.

Centre back i dont really know what should be done but ill feel very uneasy if we stand pat. Dont really know who should be sold or what should be done, but if anyone does depart theyll need to be replaced and id like to see it be a high quality replacement. Granted sakho was a big money signing last summer but just hoping hes gonna get better next year feels a bit too hopeful.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/05/liverpool-earn-premier-league-high-99m-201314/

The Reds received £22.8m for finishing second in the Premier League, and a further £77m from TV revenue.

The total amount received is £1m more than Premier League winners Manchester City, due to Liverpool’s share of the TV revenue being higher as they were shown live more than times than City.
Numerous reports recently have indicated that Brendan Rodgers will be given £60m to spend this summer, plus any money raised by sales of players.

If Lallana was playing in Spain or Italy or France there wouldn't be half as much opposition to his signing for 20M. People's attitudes are seriously out of whack

Costa off to chelsea by by the looks, need to get our deals done early.