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Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

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  • #7742
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Headshot wrote: »
    Just saw I'm among the top 10 post count users on boards. ****ing hell, over 44 thousand posts of hate and pessimistim. That takes some doing. The hate is strong with me

    You joined 5 years before me, so in 5 years, you accumulated 42k more posts than I have in my entire career. That's terrifying.


  • #7743
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Match thread here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89772017#post89772017


  • #7744
    Ernest Oreo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭Ernest Oreo


    Kerrydude1981 wrote: »
    Wonder what kind of team will start against Newcastle?

    Will the likes of Rooney be risked and could we be see Nani make an appearance?

    we should consider bringing zaha, powell and ando back from loan
    if we beat bayern then we should be wrapping the first 11/12/13 in cotton wool


  • #7745
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    It's taken me 15 years to hit 10k so might have 40k by the time I'm 60.


  • #7746
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    MagicIRL wrote: »
    You joined 5 years before me, so in 5 years, you accumulated 42k more posts than I have in my entire career. That's terrifying.

    You should be afraid, be very afraid.


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  • #7747
    redbaron_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    Ernest Oreo wrote: »
    we should consider bringing zaha, powell and ando back from loan
    if we beat bayern then we should be wrapping the first 11/12/13 in cotton wool

    Yeah, if we did manage to get through, we couldn't be risking the likes of Rooney, DeGea, Carrick.


  • #7748
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,930 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    redbaron_99 wrote: »
    Yeah, if we did manage to get through, we couldn't be risking the likes of Rooney, DeGea, Carrick.
    We can't recall any of them from loan as far as I know.


  • #7749
    Hococop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Hococop


    i wonder how people will feel if he starts a strong team the weekend


  • #7750
    Crimson King
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Crimson King


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    We can't recall any of them from loan as far as I know.

    I heard this too.

    Always wanted to know this but is there a fee for loanees? Or is it just the club taking the player pays the players wages whilst also blooding the player in a first team environment.

    I heard rumours that the Romelu Lukaka loan cost Everton £6M which I find amazing if true. Then again Chelsea bought the player for £10M and he has essentially been on loan for 2 of the 3 years he has been with them so maybe the fee is just to cover his wages?


  • #7751
    KH25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,209 ✭✭✭KH25


    Just found out that I won't be able to watch the Bayern game because I'll be working and in a meeting. :(


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  • #7752
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,930 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Crimson King wrote: »
    I heard this too.

    Always wanted to know this but is there a fee for loanees? Or is it just the club taking the player pays the players wages whilst also blooding the player in a first team environment.

    I heard rumours that the Romelu Lukaka loan cost Everton £6M which I find amazing if true. Then again Chelsea bought the player for £10M and he has essentially been on loan for 2 of the 3 years he has been with them so maybe the fee is just to cover his wages?

    All depends on the clubs, and the players involved.

    I would say there is basically no fee (maybe wages) paid by lower league clubs when loaning a youth players. When you have more established players, loan fees (and paying part/all of the wages) wouldn't be uncommon. I think Hulk, for example, was being shopped around last summer for loan, for 10million!


  • #7753
    Ernest Oreo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭Ernest Oreo


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    All depends on the clubs, and the players involved.

    I would say there is basically no fee (maybe wages) paid by lower league clubs when loaning a youth players. When you have more established players, loan fees (and paying part/all of the wages) wouldn't be uncommon. I think Hulk, for example, was being shopped around last summer for loan, for 10million!

    The Hulk and Little Pea would be an interesting partnership.
    Little Pea looks like he will leave this summer.
    Hard to blame him, and he will be a loss to the United squad.
    They should be securing 7/8m for him.


  • #7754
    IamtheWalrus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    KH25 wrote: »
    Just found out that I won't be able to watch the Bayern game because I'll be working and in a meeting. :(

    What sort of Stalinite does that?


  • #7755
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    hard to know what team will face Newcastle....maybe somewhere along the lines of...


    De Gea


    Jones
    vidic
    evans
    evra


    Januzaj
    Cleverly
    Carrick
    Kagawa

    Mata
    Wazza/chico


  • #7756
    IamtheWalrus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    Is the league over for Utd, i.e. is it only pride to play for now and if so, shouldn't Utd field a reserve side against Newcastle?


  • #7757
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    KH25 wrote: »
    Just found out that I won't be able to watch the Bayern game because I'll be working and in a meeting. :(

    You'll be sick that day.

    You still have time. Start throwing in a few coughs today. Towards the end of the day, mention how your throat is feeling rough and be seen to be drinking a lot of water. Come Monday, blow your nose loudly and cough dramatically. Clear your throat a few times and then, on Tuesday, call in sick.

    It's all about the groundwork!


  • #7758
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,930 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    IamtheWalrus wrote: »
    Is the league over for Utd, i.e. is it only pride to play for now and if so, shouldn't Utd field a reserve side against Newcastle?

    I don't think we can afford to consciously allow the league form/performances/results to be any worse than they have been already. There is pride, reputation and a sign that United can get back to where they 'belong' to play for.

    I do think there will be some rotation this weekend, but it will remain a strong team (as much as we can play).


  • #7759
    Ernest Oreo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭Ernest Oreo


    unless Buttner is injured he should be playing every game between now and May


  • #7760
    MagicIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    I don't think we can afford to consciously allow the league form/performances/results to be any worse than they have been already. There is pride, reputation and a sign that United can get back to where they 'belong' to play for.

    I do think there will be some rotation this weekend, but it will remain a strong team (as much as we can play).

    Some key players will be rested due to injuries and having no back-ups in those positions. Vidic, Rio, Carrick, Buttner and Jones won't play.

    I expect we'll still see De Gea, Rooney, Rafael, Fellaini, Mata and maybe even Kagawa.


  • #7761
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,930 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    MagicIRL wrote: »
    Some key players will be rested due to injuries and having no back-ups in those positions. Vidic, Rio, Carrick, Buttner and Jones won't play.

    I expect we'll still see De Gea, Rooney, Rafael, Fellaini, Mata and maybe even Kagawa.

    Rafael missed the game during the week with injury, so could be held back (if fit) to ensure he is available vs Bayern. Partly as a result of that I can't see Jones, Rio and Vidic all being rested.

    Also, as I said above, I can't see too many being rested/protected - Moyes can't afford more poor results really, not when the result can be blamed on him picking the wrong 11.


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  • #7762
    onemorechance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭onemorechance


    bangkok wrote: »
    hard to know what team will face Newcastle....maybe somewhere along the lines of...


    De Gea


    Jones
    vidic
    evans
    evra


    Januzaj
    Cleverly
    Carrick
    Kagawa

    Mata
    Wazza/chico

    Fellaini instead of Carrick. Carrick could benefit from a rest. Jones might be a better option than Fellaini in CM against Bayern if he's not needed in defence.

    Rafael might be available for RB against Toon, might be good to give his some game time before Bayern.

    Vidic might be best off rested.

    Kagawa will likely benefit more from playing against Newcastle than resting, as he has had lots of rest already!

    David de Gea also might be worth resting, purely to avoid risk of injury; he's our MVP! Wazza maybe rested too, purely to avoid injury.


  • #7763
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I agree with Mitch. I can see Moyes fielding a strong 11 not because he thinks we still can do anything in the league, but because he'll feel he can't afford to lose more games between now and summer. As it stands, while some will say they don't care about 7th or 8th, we're already way adrift of other teams in the league, and he won't want to be even further back when he's arguing to keep his job.

    We've already lost once to Newcastle, so he won't want another "Lose both times we played them" stat. He'll likely not want to lose momentum heading over to Germany either.


  • #7764
    ericzeking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    onemorechance wrote: »
    David de Gea also might be worth resting, purely to avoid risk of injury; he's our MVP! Wazza maybe rested too, purely to avoid injury.

    I wasn't posting at the time but could someone enlighten me as to the general feeling on the board towards De Gea in is 'difficult' start?

    I used to lurk a bit on Red Cafe and there were plenty who wanted shot of him...they look pretty stooopid now


  • #7765
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Looking at it....a weak team losing to Newcastle, a loss to Bayern midweek and then Everton next weekend....

    He really can't afford to give major rests to anyone over this week. A bad result to Everton (and given our inability to win against "top" teams, you've got to presume that's likely), and the pressure will be back on him mighty quick.


  • #7766
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    We might see Nani starting.

    Hernandez up top, Clev, Young, Mata.

    Not sure if we can rest anyone in defence


  • #7767
    NTMK
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭NTMK


    ericzeking wrote: »
    I wasn't posting at the time but could someone enlighten me as to the general feeling on the board towards De Gea in is 'difficult' start?

    I used to lurk a bit on Red Cafe and there were plenty who wanted shot of him...they look pretty stooopid now

    Quite a few wanted shot of him at the start but most people here knew we had an excellent keeper on our hands but needed work


  • #7768
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,930 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    ericzeking wrote: »
    I wasn't posting at the time but could someone enlighten me as to the general feeling on the board towards De Gea in is 'difficult' start?

    I used to lurk a bit on Red Cafe and there were plenty who wanted shot of him...they look pretty stooopid now

    was mixed.

    Some (myself included) were massively behind him - predicting he would become one of the very best in the world if given time and not messed about.

    Others (Sean....) felt he cost us the league and should have been replaced with Shay Given.

    I think most people basically supported him and felt he would come good. He was certainly the subject of a lot of discussion though.


  • #7769
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,045 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    ericzeking wrote: »
    I wasn't posting at the time but could someone enlighten me as to the general feeling on the board towards De Gea in is 'difficult' start?

    I used to lurk a bit on Red Cafe and there were plenty who wanted shot of him...they look pretty stooopid now

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73816191&postcount=9372


  • #7770
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Very surprised that Reina is going to be picked for the WC squad ahead of him.

    Casillas too.


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  • #7771
    onemorechance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭onemorechance


    RasTa wrote: »
    Very surprised that Reina is going to be picked for the WC squad ahead of him.

    Casillas too.

    If they bring 3 keepers, surely he'll be picked now that Valdes is out injured.


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