Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Scholes on Twitter!

https://twitter.com/PaulScholesUK

Aodhagan wrote: »

Ironically that's the one way you confirm a fake account

Liam O wrote: »

Last season so many games were won by one scrappy goal and a lot of luck was ridden. I'm not saying that it makes what's happened acceptable but I would definitely lay a lot of blame at Fergie's door. The tactics have been terrible for years, players not knowing where each other were going bar the odd combination. With an already aging squad given that extra year a drop off would have to be expected in some ways. The powers that be, Moyes, Fergie, Woodward and Gill were too complacent about the changeover. I think Moyes actually showed too much respect to Everton in the Summer, working right up to the end of his contract and the changeover jas clearly not impacted them too much.

Moyes also clearly hadn't seen much of United before he came. He went on a lot of Fergie's recommendations which may have been wrong because of his lack of training ground input in his later years. Anyone who's watched United the last few years could see how bad Valencia was, yet he persisted with him, and in big games. I think he also bought into a lot of the bullshìt rhetoric of the club such as you have to play with a 4-4-2 with wingers. I think he felt too pressured to appease the higher ups rather than impart his mentality on the team. I mean, a Moyes team that doesn't work hard is absolutely ridiculous to me, seeing Fellaini strolling around the other night was so shocking to see. I think a lot of the older players were already looking forward to their retirement or final payday and felt they'd already won all they wanted in their careers.

I don't know where he can go from here, the players that come in would have to work for him but the players there woukd have to buy into it too. There doesn't seem to be a danger to the players, they can put in the non interested performances week after week and still play. I said a few weeks ago that I'd prefer once the CL is gone to drop everyone and play the academy players and I'd still have that mentality. Moyes has to get the player's respect or attention somehow and he's running out of time to make a statement.

syngindub wrote: »

Can't remember ever dreading a next game.

monkey9 wrote: »

Are you not an Everton fan?