Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

thelad95 wrote: »

It's completely unclassy and equally as pathetic as that buffoon shouting at Moyes from the stands. I'm saying this as someone firmly in the Moyes-out camp.

But I don't get how that's "unclassy".
There's nothing personal in the banner, there's nothing offensive. Is it any worse than "The Chosen One".

I mean, I get "cringe worth". I just don't get "unclassy" and "embarrassment".

Timmyctc wrote: »

I would go as far as saying its worse than the T-shirt debacle over at Liverpool.

Worse than showing support for someone who had racially abused another player :eek:

Again, how?

Timmyctc wrote: »

Similarly, here there is an alternative method to achieve the goal in mind without looking like a bunch of twats. Protesting in the stadium with traditional signage, Chants (Surely given the number of people that claim to want him out this wont be an issue) Protest prior to and after games at OT. The plane is clearly a ridiculous method to achieve their goal and makes the club look like a joke to be frank.

Signage in the stadium on any grand scale would likely be taken away.

A protest outside the stadium, to me, is no different than the plane idea, and I don't get how one is "unclassy and embarrassing" while the other is grand. Furthermore, protests outside the stadium could likely break out into a situation police could have to deal with and get out of hand, leading to a dangerous situation; a plane with a banner doesn't have that same dangerous potential.

I've already addressed the chanting aspect of things; such chants would be very difficult to start up, and the hardcore element would likely drown them out.

The plane thing doesn't cause any dangerous situations, gets the message across loud and clear and is a sign that will show there's unrest with the fans, something that Moyes has tried to deny over the last few weeks. The message isn't personal or abusive; it's clear and concise, and is garnering the attention that the Anti-Moyes side wants.

As Mitch (I think) stated earlier, the Stretford End Flags crowd could have prevented this weeks ago in a civil and PR friendly manner, and chose not to. Worse, they pretty much goaded this sort of stunt out of people with their "We won't start it, if you want to protest with a banner, why don't ye" stance.

If Moyes wants to make the banner look like a joke, then win the game, and start making the club winners again.

I dunno will it though, because some fecking eejits are going to fly a message of support afterwards and it's probably just going to make some matchgoers chant support. This could ironically saddle us with him til next year and then we're looking at 200 million wasted and a second season out of europe - severe damage to the club in other words.

From what I've read, this will happen in the first 10 minutes of the match; what way the crowd reacts will be decided over 90 minutes, not 10. If Moyes doesn't get 3 points, I think the press, and as a result more and more fans of the club, will use the plane in the right manner.

Honestly though, I think the Bayern Munich matches will be what decides his fate though, not a banner in the first 10 minutes of a Villa game. All this will do though is show that not everyone supports him.

Blatter wrote: »

Given the negative reaction to the plane, I think they should abort the idea.

I think the message will do the moyes out want far more damage than good. People will support him and look passed/get distracted from the results and get him through to summer because it's such a tragic protest.

Glaziers completely ignored protests about their takeover and won't be influenced by it (against Moyes) imo