Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

5starpool wrote: »

I hate the term 'mind games'.

Just hope they can establish early who will not be joining due to lack of Champions League, and not waste time pursuing lost causes

Timmyctc wrote: »

I've always envisaged it to look like this

Moyes is looking to sign Keanu Reeves? :eek:

The question is, would you rather we play nice football and possibly get hammered or negative football and get hammered with the illusion of maybe getting a point.

Moyes has gone with the latter most of this season.

Timmyctc wrote: »

I've always envisaged it to look like this

"I'm not the first midfielder you tried to sign?"

"No, the term Centre Midfielder, is a systemic anomaly from an unforseen design oversight not captured in the other teams I built."

"The problem was Keane...."

"Yes, by time and logic dictated by the human brain this is the SXITH team I have built. The first by definition was flawless, perfect, a team designed to conquer and rule domestically and in Europe for decades to come. But it was rejected by the host, it was "too perfect".

By the forth iteration I'd designed a system by which centre midfielders were no longer an inherant requirement for success. By bolstering pacey wingers and bollox exploding strikers, I had completely compensated the hosts logical requirement for a centre midfielder".

"You mentioned there was others before me..."

"Yes, with each reiteration of the system, by nature stronger and more sophisticated by design then the last, there was a requirement based on human desire to have a anomoly for the host to lodge faith in. The One, the centre midfielder, was purposefully constructed at the end of every cycle to return to the system core within the stadium and would activate a reset. This would activate a selection programme, one goalkeeper, two centre backs, two wingers and a striker, and signal the start of a new "team". Ergo, the one while being the hope and beacon for humanity would also signal it's inevitable doom and recycle, restarting a new dominance in European football".

"To your right are two doors. Advance through the left and you will return to the Allianz Arena where you will inevitably become an all time Bundesliga legends, winning numerous titles with Bayern Munich and enjoy plentiful success with the German national team.

Advance through the door on the right, and you will sign for Manchester United. You will begin a tormentfull comparison with Keane and Scholes, for which the hosts have and forever will compare. Overcome their expectations and re-introduce a CM into the system, and you will become the most coveted footballer in the world, encounter countless glories and success and become the final part in my perfect system, ergo....vice vie.....my quadruple winning team."

In think the West Ham game is exactly how United will play. Sit back, counter attack.

I wouldn't be surprised if we had the same team too. I thought Kagawa, Mata and Rooney linked excellently on the break. I'm wondering if Welbeck will start ahead of Young though for his workrate and pace.

I would love if we beat them! Love it!

Mitch Connor wrote: »

City won't be as argicultural as West Ham were

As a farmer I take exception to the use of agricultural in this context.

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

getting destroyed by liverpool, citeh and indeed bayern is a necessary evil here

I don't get this at all, I really don't.

People saying it's all a distraction, masking the poorness and problems with Moyes.

So if the manager turns the teams fortunes around, and starts winning big games, therefore meeting the expectations of the fans, that is somehow a bad thing, in him performing the task he was hired to do.

There are people here literally saying they want the team to get stomped by big clubs, cause if we won, it would show Moyes doing a good job.

That's absolutely mental.

If there was a solid run to the end of the season that included a few big wins, that's not coating over a failing, that's showing signs of progress.

It's such a rubbish stance to take, hoping the team get battered so that the manager gets the sack. Where as the team wins, it's only a temporary thing. So he is damned if he does damned if he doesn't.

Alot of people just have their minds set, and that's fine. But hoping the team get pummeled in the process is absolute lunacy and I'm not buying it, it's a horrible viewpoint not befitting of a supporter.

I'd love to see this thread if Moyes did bring the team to a CL victory, or premier league crown next year. I really would. Would people hold their hands up and go" yea, you know what fair play, turned it around" Or would they continue to carry the " Doesn't deserve it, not up to the job, this is just delaying the inevitable".

People claiming Moyes still in control next year will result in a catastrophe and a degradation of the club is about as accurate as me saying next year Moyes next year will win the title and champions league.

Baseless rubbish with absolutely no REAL evidence to show for it.

You do realise, that if we put a run together for the end of the season, we could finish fifth. That's not a bad finish considering how well the top 4 have played and performed.

I wouldn't be disgruntled with 5th at all. At the start of the season I never envisaged us outside the top 4, but to finish 5th with hindsight seeing what happened, and how the top 4 played, I wouldn't be feeling disgraced at all.

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

good post there doc
only thing is Moyes has yet to win an important fixture
beating those greeks at home is small time
and united were lucky
could easily have conceded in the first half, and then its curtains

sure if they beat citeh and bayern, put a good few wins back to back over the closing weeks that'll show progress
but they havent a hope in hell of doing this
my worry is that an honourable performance against the germans gives Moyes a little more time, and this time is just wasted - heaven knows what he'd do with a transfer kitty in the summer. and united just cant afford to get another 2/3 transfers wrong
too many people painting over the cracks here, for whatever reason

In fairness the "form" book would have dictated we would have not got a result against Olympiakos at home. EVERYTHING pointed against it, recent form, struggling, the amount of times we scored three goals in a game.

Olympiakos were cannon fodder for United teams of the past for sure, but not this one that at the time was on it's knees coming of an awful set of results and a pummeling to Liverpool.

I fully appreciate the outlook by many that it's not a big deal, and people are making too much of it after Olympiakos. But I think it's back, to the start of the season, and expectations. And changing and re-aligning them, as the reality befits.

I think at times too little is made of that win. It's all well and good saying on paper we should destroy them, but the reality is we have said that most of the season and gone onto poor results against cannon fodder. We came up against the Greek champions who were on a mighty impressive campaign, regardless of their form in England. We had come of a long month or two of negativity and bad press, shattered confidence, to overturn a 2 goal deficit.

If things slump back into poorness in the run in then we know it was another false dawn. But if the team put in a good performance tomorrow and bag plenty of wins towards the end of the season things will look alot brighter.