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Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

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  • #3062
    Vic Vinegar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    kildare75 wrote: »
    Evening all....is mata not cup tied for Europe?

    Whaaaaaaaaaa?


  • #3063
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    To be honest you can't really put Rooney up front. The shift he puts in helping the midfield out as the number 10 can't be replicated by anyone else on the team.

    We would be better off putting Danny or Chicha up front and hope he has a good game on the night.

    I don't think there's anything we can do to beat Bayern even with RVP anyway.


  • #3064
    kildare75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭kildare75


    Bombleswizzum wrote: »
    Whaaaaaaaaaa?

    Im pretty sure he is ........


  • #3065
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,060 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Wouldn't be surprised to see Rooney up front on his own with a midfield trio of Fletcher Fellaini and Carrick.


  • #3066
    bren2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,858 ✭✭✭bren2001


    BloodBath wrote: »
    To be honest you can't really put Rooney up front. The shift he puts in helping the midfield out as the number 10 can't be replicated by anyone else on the team.

    We would be better off putting Danny or Chicha up front and hope he has a good game on the night.

    I don't think there's anything we can do to beat Bayern even with RVP anyway.

    I completely agree. Rooney offers far too much defensively to stick him as the striker. The more I think about it, the more I would line up as so:
    Dea Gea

    Smalling
    Vidic
    Evans
    Rafael

    Fellaini
    Giggs
    Carrick

    Valencia
    Rooney
    Welbeck

    Can defend as 4-5-1 and counter as 4-3-3.

    Would not be surprised if Fellani was left up top, long balls up to him, he holds it up, not what I would like to see but it is Moyes.


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  • #3067
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    adox wrote: »
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Rooney up front on his own with a midfield trio of Fletcher Fellaini and Carrick.

    That would be a disaster. 3 mediocre players who are all slow and have no decent long range passing ability.

    I'd put Giggs in there ahead of Fletcher any day.


  • #3068
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,060 ✭✭✭✭adox


    BloodBath wrote: »
    That would be a disaster. 3 mediocre players who are all slow and have no decent long range passing ability.

    I'd put Giggs in there ahead of Fletcher any day.

    It's what I expect Moyes to go with. Carrick certainly has long range passing ability as does Fletcher to a lesser extent. I find it bizarre that you would call the three of them slow and then pick Giggs.

    Fletcher and Fellaini are in no way slow. Carrick may not be the quickest but is a certainty to start, whatever the team.

    Giggs playing against Munich would be a huge mistake. I really hope he's nowhere near the starting line up.


  • #3069
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I think it will be (based on who is currently fit)...
    De Gea
    Raf - Vidic - Evans - Butner
    Valencia
    Young
    Carrick
    Giggs
    Rooney










    Welbeck

    10 men behind the ball, and constant balls being sent up the pitch for Welbeck to chase.


  • #3070
    v3ttel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    spiralism wrote: »
    This. Some of the delusion here is ridiculous and the sort of craic we'd have laughed at Liverpool fans for in bygone years.

    It's Bayern Munich. Them of the 0 league defeats since 2012. A team that put 7 past Barcelona not a year ago. A team that scored 5 goals in 19 minutes 2 weeks back. A team who bossed City and Arsenal around their own grounds this year already.

    Jesus, we only beat Olympiakos and the delusion brigade is out saying we'll keep it close. No we ****ing wont, we hung on at the end at home to a side approximately as good as Celtic like it was Barcelona 2008. Buttner will be marking Robben in one leg and the respite will be Evra marking him in Munich even though Evra struggled with his man's pace on wednesday. They'll have 70% + possession over the course of the tie, we'll be seeing the likes Kroos, Robben, Ribery, Gotze and Muller bearing down on us all night both games, Rooney will be chasing shadows all night, RVP won't get 10 touches between two legs and we'll be made a ****ing holy show of.

    There'll be at least 6 clear goals in this, take it to the bank.

    What prompted this rant about "delusion"? Has anybody actually said they expect we'll go through? Skimming through the last number of pages, there is post after post after post saying that Bayern will go through.


  • #3071
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    I think it will be (based on who is currently fit)...
    De Gea
    Raf - Vidic - Evans - Butner
    Valencia
    Young
    Carrick
    Giggs
    Rooney










    Welbeck

    10 men behind the ball, and constant balls being sent up the pitch for Welbeck to chase.


    It's the only way we're going to get a result against west ham


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  • #3072
    squadro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭squadro


    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    It's the only way we're going to get a result against west ham
    out tictac them.


  • #3073
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    adox wrote: »
    It's what I expect Moyes to go with. Carrick certainly has long range passing ability as does Fletcher to a lesser extent. I find it bizarre that you would call the three of them slow and then pick Giggs.

    Fletcher and Fellaini are in no way slow. Carrick may not be the quickest but is a certainty to start, whatever the team.

    Giggs playing against Munich would be a huge mistake. I really hope he's nowhere near the starting line up.

    Carrick does not have long range passing ability. Executing 1 in 5 attempts perfectly is not long range passing ability. He spent the majority of his career playing beside Scholes so he never had to do it.

    He doesn't even attempt it half of the time as his failure rate is high.

    You're delusional if you don't think Fletcher and Fellaini are slow as well.

    Giggs would be chosen for his passing ability over Fletcher. Fletches career at united is practically over anyway. He can't be relied upon with the illness he has.


  • #3074
    Blue giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Blue giant


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Carrick does not have long range passing ability. Executing 1 in 5 attempts perfectly is not long range passing ability. He spent the majority of his career playing beside Scholes so he never had to do it.

    He doesn't even attempt it half of the time as his failure rate is high.

    You're delusional if you don't think Fletcher and Fellaini are slow as well.

    Giggs would be chosen for his passing ability over Fletcher. Fletches career at united is practically over anyway. He can't be relied upon with the illness he has.

    While Fletcher might not be particularly fast I don't see anyone else in the squad bar Rooney who will run and chase down the ball all day. He might not have the passing range of a Scholes(who does) but he offers as much and probably more than any other midfielder in the current squad. He might also be able to add.a bit of bite to the midfield something it is sorely lacking atm.


  • #3075
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Maybe but you're at a whim based on his energy levels which are up and down. The man has a severe illness.


  • #3076
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Maybe but you're at a whim based on his energy levels which are up and down. The man has a severe illness.

    When he plays you never see any problem with his energy levels. The issue is with the frequency at which he starts.


  • #3077
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    That's my point. You can't plan in advance for when he's going to play because of the illness.


  • #3078
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    BloodBath wrote: »
    That's my point. You can't plan in advance for when he's going to play because of the illness.

    Well we don't know that tbh. Apparently the surgery last year improved things immensely. Maybe his forms just dropped as of late.


  • #3079
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Would go with the following again Bayern

    De Gea

    Raf Small Vidic Evans

    Fellani Carrick Jones

    Wellbeck Rooney Kagawa.

    Think he will try and play 3 defensive midfielders / holding players. Personally I would have Evans ahead of Evra and Buttner at full back


  • #3080
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Match thread here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89570315#post89570315


  • #3081
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    zerks wrote: »
    Match thread here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89570315#post89570315

    Haha For some reason I thought that would be the Bayern thread. Had a good chuckle to meself there. Then realised how alone I am ...




    :pac:


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  • #3082
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    It just strange watching United game with nothing on offer.

    EVENFLOW



  • #3083
    n32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭n32


    For Bayern I d like to see;

    De Gea

    Rafael
    Vidic
    Evans
    Smalling/Buttner

    Jones
    Carrick
    Fellaini

    Welbeck
    Rooney

    Hernandez

    Giggs was good passing the ball on Wednesday but i think if he plays against Bayern we are going to be filleted. He is just too slow and not able to react quick enough to a player going past him. Bayerns midfield will run rings around him and we wont have enough time on the ball for him to play the type of passes he did the other night. Lets face it, Giggs and Carrick were destroyed by Barca 3 years ago and he hasnt got any younger or faster in the meantime. If we go with the 2 of them together in midfield it will be mental. To repeat a tactic that failed miserably would be pure insanity (not that we havent persisted with the same crap tactics all season!)

    Jones should play in midfield and do what he did in the Bernabeu last year. I think we have to go after them in Old Trafford. If we sit back and try and contain them then we are dead before the game kicks off. You cant hope to stifle a world class team for 180 minutes. Arsenal went for it in the early stages of their 1st leg and it nearly paid off. If Ozil had scored the penalty it could have been a very different tie. Playing Rooney/Welbeck/Chico might look risky but at least those 3 offer a threat. Picking the likes of Young/Cleverley/Giggs/FLetcher is pointless. I d prefer to see us have a go and lose instead of trying to play safe. Welbeck will be very important for us. On wednesday he was fantastic. He isnt the most polished player but he chases everything and works his arse off


  • #3084
    n32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭n32


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Haha For some reason I thought that would be the Bayern thread. Had a good chuckle to meself there. Then realised how alone I am ...




    :pac:

    You re not alone , I made the same mistake!:o


  • #3085
    Eight Ball
    Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Whatever about United's chances in this fixture, I hope to fuck the players don't step out on the pitch with this attitude.

    United simply do not have the players to go out and attack Munich and win and now with RVP out I just can't see where the goals will come from even if they decided to adopt that policy. Park the bus and pray like f uck.


  • #3086
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,930 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    My team for Bayern:
    DDG
    FB----Vidic----Jones---FB
    Carrick
    Fellaini---Giggs
    Valencia
    Welbeck
    Rooney

    Welbeck, Rooney and Giggs will be somewhat interchangible if we got enough of the ball. Full back is an issue. Raf or Evans at left back, then Raf or Smalling at right back. Don't think Buttner will start.

    Carrick will simply look to protect, Fellaini look to disrupt and Giggs to get on the ball and release Valencia/Welbeck/Rooney where possible. Cleverley in for Giggs, for more running is an option but I think Giggs is the safer option.

    Would like to see Kagawa play, off Rooney, but I think we will go with 3 central midfielders rather than 2 and a support player. We'll need the pace of Welbeck and Valencia on the counter.

    Actually kind of think RVP being out helps with selecting the right system - had he been fit Rooney and him would have started, and I don't think the shape and balance of the side with those two starting would have been right. One up top, with support players, is the way I feel we have to go. Think RVP would have been the better option up top than Rooney - better first touch and ball control - a better out ball than rooney. Also feel Rooney is more likely drop into midfield and help/look to get involved while RVP would remain further up top and offer a target/out ball.


  • #3087
    2moreMinutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭2moreMinutes


    Given the level of depression itt since the draw was made, I'm figuring the Samaritans better be on speed dial on a lot of peoples phones as it gets closer to the game.


  • #3088
    2moreMinutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭2moreMinutes


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    It just strange watching United game with nothing on offer.
    Until theres mathematically nothing on offer, theres always something on offer.

    I'm not delusional enough to think we can actually get 4th barring an exceptional turnaround in a lot of teams fortunes but, until the sums says its gone, its not gone.


  • #3089
    onemorechance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭onemorechance


    2moreMinutes wrote: »
    Until theres mathematically nothing on offer, theres always something on offer.

    I'm not delusional enough to think we can actually get 4th barring an exceptional turnaround in a lot of teams fortunes but, until the sums says its gone, its not gone.

    Assuming that City will pick up at least 3 points in their two games in hand, there are 9 games / 27 points available to crawl back 14 points on Arsenal or Liverpool.

    Even after being paired with Bayern, United have a better chance of winning the CL than getting 4th spot, although the bookies slightly favour them for 4th @25/1 and 33/1 for CL! :pac:


  • #3090
    Al Capwned
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Haha For some reason I thought that would be the Bayern thread. Had a good chuckle to meself there. Then realised how alone I am ...

    :pac:

    Done the same..... :D


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  • #3091
    Dublin Red Devil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭Dublin Red Devil


    Hire this man
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