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Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    Wouldn't like Martinez either. Really don't like him. Huge whinger too.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    There's zero reason to appoint Martinez. It would be the exact same situation again.

    If we're looking for a new manager, it should be someone who is a top class manager, not a promotion from a lower PL team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    There's zero reason to appoint Martinez. It would be the exact same situation again.

    If we're looking for a new manager, it should be someone who is a top class manager, not a promotion from a lower PL team.

    +1

    EVENFLOW



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Quaint wrote: »
    Roberto Martinez would be my number one choice followed by Jurgen Klopp or Van Gaal.

    I do think Barcelona well come in Klopp or Martinez in the summer.

    Either Klopp or de Boer for Barca I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Martinez???
    Really?

    Would be absolutely shocked if that happened too. I read they were interested in Brendan Rogers which is somewhat more believable. Hes a top manager imo, said it long before Liverpool went on this run. He didn't beat around the bush with the dross players Dalglish signed and got rid of them all bar Henderson.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭jamaamaj


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Well he's taken Everton from 6th to..... well... 6th :pac:

    Well he has not taken a team from 1st to 7th.

    Just saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Martinez has a long way to go before he achieves near what Moyes did at Everton

    Both aren't cut out for the very top level now though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Fanny Brioscaí


    The football under Moyes all season has been absolute disaster to watch, no longer do i look forward to watching Manutd play because it usually ends in defeat with rubbish tatics and a clueless manager waving his arms and shrugging his shoulders. The players don't want to play for me, constant rumors of unrest and whispers which never happened under Ferguson.

    I was disappointed when Moyes got the job but everything that could go wrong has gone wrong, i can't see how he can turn this around, he won't even if he signed 8 new players. The coaching staff have zero experience, the whole appointment was a joke, there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than we know with Moyes.

    Martinez did a fantastic job at Swansea, got them playing great and entertaining football, promoted multiple times and he's also more successful than Moyes. The brand and style of football he plays is what Manutd is all about, he knows the league which i think is important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Lumbo


    There's zero reason to appoint Martinez. It would be the exact same situation again.

    If we're looking for a new manager, it should be someone who is a top class manager, not a promotion from a lower PL team.

    Have another look at the table there buddy :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 376 ✭✭sawfish


    I think Fergie is being a bit sentimental in his choice of Moyes as manager.
    Originally Posted by Sir Alex Ferguson
    Aye, Hardworking Scottish man, bit like me back in the day. Took me five years to get United winning, so lets give Moysey the same amount of time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    Roberto Martinez? The same man who lead his side to relegation last season? The same man who has not improved Everton's league position from last season by even one place?

    Yes. Appoint him now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,858 ✭✭✭bren2001


    v3ttel wrote: »
    Roberto Martinez? The same man who lead his side to relegation last season? The same man who has not improved Everton's league position from last season by even one place?

    Yes. Appoint him now.

    Martinez is not the man but going from sixth to fifth is a huge task. He is also only 2 points behind Spurs with 2 games in hand. He is in a good position to improve on last years position and points total. Saying that, he has a much better team with Barry and Lukaku. It would reflect poorly if he didnt finish on more points.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    How can there possibly be a worthwhile discussion on Martinez replacing Moyes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Just watched our unbelievable counter attacking goal from Ronaldo a few years ago in the CL against Arsenal. Nearly brought a tear to the eye :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Just watched our unbelievable counter attacking goal from Ronaldo a few years ago in the CL against Arsenal. Nearly brought a tear to the eye :o

    Was that on the History Channel?:pac:

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Yurt


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    Completely ridiculous.He should be watching videos of James McCarthy IMO


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    How about Neil Lennon? Seriously. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    In other news, Varela starts for the reserves tonight, didn't realise he returned


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    Yurt wrote: »
    1

    Completely ridiculous.He should be watching videos of James McCarthy IMO


    What I think is ridiculous is that the fella that tweeted that out describes himself as a 'cunt' on his Twitter bio.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,996 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Lads, what about Harry Redknapp?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Lads, what about Harry Redknapp?

    I'd take Harry Enfield over Moyes at this rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭Nolars


    Whos the most over the top poster in here?:pac: I'd take him at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭ManofStraw


    Read this quote on a blog earlier on re Moyes tenure and its really true

    "We all know how its going to end, its just a matter of how long and how messy its going to be"


    So realistically how much longer do people think it will be until we give Moyes the boot after we go out of the champions league, summer, next summer.


  • Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's going to be a lot of bullshít reported as fact in the coming weeks in regards to Moyes and the team with the hunger for headlines and stories that is building. That 'Carrick watching Osman videos' claim is a prime example, it would be a DVD if anything! Seriously though, there is enough documented evidence broadcast by Sky Sports/BT/BBC each week to use against Moyes without having to buy into the creative writing of another pissed off fan. Any one of us here who can read the situation as it is currently presented can conjure up something similar...

    -Chico had to be talked into returning to Manchester by close friends after the recent international break. Sources close to the out-of-favour Manchester United striker say that he now sees absolutely no future for himself at Old Trafford, with the 25 year old stating that "...once the summer arrives, I will be happy."

    The writing was on the wall last summer and I for one didn't see it at the time. There are things I remember that should have been ringing like alarm bells back then. Cleaning out the entire backroom staff and bringing in all his own from Everton was Moyes' first mistake. I thought at the time that it was a bit of a left-field maneuver, but I also bought into the notion that him and his coaching staff would acclimatise to the championship winning mentality of Manchester United, and not do the opposite - Turn us into a sub-par Moyes' Everton.

    I should have known when SSN tried to grab a quick comment from Moyes last May after the betting was suspended on him taking over at Old Trafford. You remember the 'interview'? They tried to nab him as he was coming out of some meeting (possibly the parting one with Kenright) in London and they asked him "David, are you going to be the next manager of Manchester United?" Moyes didn't respond verbally, just ran off to a waiting car, but the expression on his face was one of absolute joy and excitement, he actually answered the question with his body language! I remember thinking at the time 'Of course he's delighted, he's about to occupy one of the biggest jobs in football, good luck to him'. Now with a bit of hindsight and 30 league games of regression, I see that brief bit of footage as something else - Moyes demeanor and expressions in that video is the exact same of a homeless man who just found a fat stack of €500 notes lying on the ground. Telling.

    Give him £200,000,000 to spend in the summer? I wouldn't give him £200 to bet on June 23rd 2014 being a Monday. As I've said in the past, I can't see him getting a string of results even with a fantasy European Team of the Season lining out at Old Trafford, no amount of money and new shiny players will make this any better. Maybe that isn't entirely true, but I don't see the sense in trying to secure 6-7 world class talents with this manager when 2-3 plus a couple of signings 'for the future' would more than suffice under a different manager.

    While I hope beyond hope that the wheels are turning behind the scenes in Old Trafford to make a summer replacement possible, there is an underlying fear I have that the higher-ups have no intention of doing that, especially with Fergie so influential, and that what we are seeing will become the norm for the next few years at the least.

    Personally I wish David Moyes well but he and his coaching staff at Utd have shown nothing in almost a full season of football to suggest that they have a masterplan to make Manchester United play and compete like Manchester United should be doing. That said, I can't see him going before the end of the season and think that we're going to have to just grind it out as fans until then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Lennonist


    How about Neil Lennon? Seriously. :)


    You wish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭jamaamaj


    Lads, what about Harry Redknapp?

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcREgyKMFhtQp-Wwn2_pBr9v81czolCKvNpFAL79fk4EzgCxVzTV

    Jim will fix it ......Harry will,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Lennonist wrote: »
    You wish

    we dont wish at all.

    EVENFLOW



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Lennonist


    we dont wish at all.

    I wishes likewise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Lennonist wrote: »
    I wishes likewise.

    thank God for that

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,338 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    So what are everyone's thoughts on Wednesday? I be surprised if we won never mind got through.

    EVENFLOW



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