Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

onemorechance · 17-03-2014 01:39AM

A quarter of a century of success and can't handle one season of poor form.

Liverpool having a great second season under Rodgers after a first where he was getting less points than Moyes so far in his first.

I for one am looking forward to Moyes second season in charge! :pac:

Plus Wednesday should be fun!

Quarters would be nice!

The Narrator · 17-03-2014 01:43AM

onemorechance wrote: »

I for one am looking forward to Moyes second season in charge! :pac:

I think opposing fans are as well. :pac:

FutureGuy · 17-03-2014 01:44AM

onemorechance wrote: »

A quarter of a century of success and can't handle one season of poor form.

Liverpool having a great second season under Rodgers after a first where he was getting less points than Moyes so far in his first.

I for one am looking forward to Moyes second season in charge! :pac:

Plus Wednesday should be fun! Quarters would be nice!

A fitting username

user2011 · 17-03-2014 01:48AM

K4t wrote: »

Understand completely what you're saying.

However, as I already mentioned earlier, I consider myself a fan of football rather than being a fan of a single club, even though I've supported Utd for near on 20 years now! I love the game and I really love to play it, and I'm really glad my dad was a Utd fan and I chose them as a kid after some tinkering with the Scum! They're a great club with a great ethos and by and large set a good example, as much as football clubs can do. Plus they're obviously pretty damn successful which doesn't hurt.
I'll always be a Utd fan and I'll always support Utd against any other team. But I'll never hate rivals of Utd simply because they are our rivals. Someone mentioned Istanbul in a negative sense earlier and I smiled, as I willed Liverpool on that night, as did my dad who was watching the game elsewhere at the time, and he's the first to knock them down given half a chance.

If we were challenging for the league, would I want Liverpool or anyone else to win? Obviously not. But we're not challenging, not even close. And Liverpool are playing some great attacking football this season without writing blank cheques and it's refreshing to see. If they do go on and win it (big if) nobody can say they won't deserve it.

I'm a fan of good football too I try too watch a lot of other football this past couple of years because I've not been happy with United's style of play, but seeing a nearest rival being near winning the title "all well and good" but wishing they win it tbh is a cross i could not wear. You seem a very sensible person other then that tbh with you

this is one thing we will never agree on no matter how sensible a post you post.

I too have followed in my fathers foot steps in being a United fan he gave me book about the history of the club, I'll say I was fan before that but after reading the book it became so much more tbh it'll sound "sad" saying this but reading about 58 was a serious turning point for me in the book. It gripped me so much.

That's not to say I don't have crazy moments look back through my posts especially around Ajax EL home game :pac: madness. I love football because it springs opposite emotions for people it's nice to see but your emotion I'll never understand. If they win it fair f**ks to them they will deserve it but it's a completely different thing to be wishing them to win it is most peoples point.

K4t · 17-03-2014 01:50AM

onemorechance wrote: »

Plus Wednesday should be fun! Quarters would be nice!

Hopefully.

If somehow we do manage to turn things around Wednesday night, I think the players will give a very good account of themselves against any opposition we might meet. They owe it to themselves and they will feel, whatever about how the league season has gone, they need to prove to the footballing world that they are still a team to be reckoned with.

Wednesday will require a huge performance though. Does this team have that in them right now?

rob316 · 17-03-2014 01:51AM

onemorechance wrote: »

A quarter of a century of success and can't handle one season of poor form.

Liverpool having a great second season under Rodgers after a first where he was getting less points than Moyes so far in his first.

I for one am looking forward to Moyes second season in charge! :pac:

Plus Wednesday should be fun! Quarters would be nice!

Rodgers inherited a side in 8th place full of dross, Moyes inherited the Premier League Champions. Rodgers had Liverpool playing free flowing football by January, its mid-march now and I havnt seen a single top performance from united.

J. Marston · 17-03-2014 01:52AM

Schwiiing wrote: »

:eek::(:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

The City rivalry never meant much to me until recently when they became title rivals and even now it's a bit of a meh rivalry, in my opinion. I suppose you have to be Mancunian to really grasp a hold of it maybe. So City winning the league would actually be my preferred choice. They're the lesser of all evils for me (Liverpool are Liverpool, Mourinho is insufferable and so were Arsenal when they were actually winning stuff).

Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea are the rivalries I grew up with (makes me sound old, I'm only 25!) so they're the teams I like to see fail. I suppose some people can say they want the best footballing side to win it but I'm far too petty for that.

Thanks Moyes for putting me in this awful position of hoping for City, Arsenal and Chelsea wins.

simongurnick · 17-03-2014 01:58AM

Schwiiing wrote: »

:eek::(:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

An Irish lad living up a rivalry within an English city....sad.

user2011 · 17-03-2014 01:59AM

I'm in the Arsenal/Chelsea camp for the title.

All down too Moyes of course :pac:

K4t · 17-03-2014 02:01AM

user2011 wrote: »

I'm a fan of good football too I try too watch a lot of other football this past couple of years because I've not been happy with United's style of play, but seeing a nearest rival being near winning the title "all well and good" but wishing they win it tbh is a cross i could not wear. You seem a very sensible person other then that tbh with you this is one thing we will never agree on no matter how sensible a post you post.

I too have followed in my fathers foot steps in being a United fan he gave me book about the history of the club, I'll say I was fan before that but after reading the book it became so much more tbh it'll sound "sad" saying this but reading about 58 was a serious turning point for me in the book. It gripped me so much.

That's not to say I don't have crazy moments look back through my posts especially around Ajax EL home game :pac: madness. I love football because it springs opposite emotions for people it's nice to see but your emotion I'll never understand. If they win it fair f**ks to them they will deserve it but it's a completely different thing to be wishing them to win it is most peoples point.

Good read. (I got that book too or one similar for a birthday!)

Don't get me wrong, I won't actively support Liverpool for the rest of the season and cheer every time they score! That would be mad and pretty spineless on my behalf for someone who calls themselves a Utd fan.

Also, 'wished' is too strong of a word to use which is why I didn't use it! I simply would like to see Liverpool win the league this season, all things now considered. Perhaps if I had said I wouldn't begrudge them at all it would have sit better with others. I'm not going to go on repeating myself again but I think you understand where I'm coming from which I appreciate, even if you don't fully agree.

RGDATA! · 17-03-2014 02:09AM

zerks wrote: »

Laurent Blanc:

"Sacking Moyes wouldn't be a mistake, keeping him would. Here in France he would have been sacked 3 times."

bit skeptical about that quote - I know it's been all over twitter, but i couldn't find where/when he's actually supposed to have said that and I'd be surprised if he did

markc91 · 17-03-2014 02:11AM

RGDATA! wrote: »

bit skeptical about that quote - I know it's been all over twitter, but i couldn't find where/when he's actually supposed to have said that and I'd be surprised if he did

Probably asked about it in his post match interview after Psg game tonight?

Schwiiing · 17-03-2014 02:11AM

simongurnick wrote: »

An Irish lad living up a rivalry within an English city....sad.

Why do either of these things matter?

simongurnick · 17-03-2014 02:14AM

Schwiiing wrote: »

Why do either of these things matter?

What does a Mancunian rivalry really mean to someone living in Ireland?

dfx- · 17-03-2014 02:15AM

simongurnick wrote: »

An Irish lad living up a rivalry within an English city....sad.

That argument has no place in any club Superthread. Quit it.

user2011 · 17-03-2014 02:15AM

K4t wrote: »

Good read. (I got that book too or one similar for a birthday!)

Don't get me wrong, I won't actively support Liverpool for the rest of the season and cheer every time they score! That would be mad and pretty spineless on my behalf for someone who calls themselves a Utd fan.

Also, 'wished' is too strong of a word to use which is why I didn't use it! I simply would like to see Liverpool win the league this season, all things now considered. Perhaps if I had said I wouldn't begrudge them at all it would have sit better with others. I'm not going to go on repeating myself again but I think you understand where I'm coming from which I appreciate, even if you don't fully agree.

Corrected sorry, but, really like/wishing is in the same bracket for me :pac::o.

Yeah may the best team win if it is Liverpool I'll say well done to them after all it's over a long 38 game season and who ever gets to the finish line all you can say is well done they were the best team.

simongurnick · 17-03-2014 02:21AM

dfx- wrote: »

That argument has no place in any club Superthread. Quit it.

Apologies if I broke the rules.

Back to matters at hand then, never saw such a lack of energy from a United team as today. Liverpool could have scored 5 or 6. Throwing millions into the transfer market won't fix it either. Fergie was a legend but a lot of his success was built off a phenomenal youth system, which may never produce the same likes again.

K4t · 17-03-2014 02:23AM

user2011 wrote: »

Corrected sorry, but, really like/wishing is in the same bracket for me :pac::o.

Yeah may the best team win if it is Liverpool I'll say well done to them after all it's over a long 38 game season and who ever gets to the finish line all you can say is well done they were the best team.

I suppose words just mean more to me

Well said.

Rayne Wooney · 17-03-2014 02:31AM

Kagawa 25 today

This year wasted at United

The Gibzilla · 17-03-2014 02:32AM

I gave it 'til half time today. It was so awful that I switched off and went back to bed for a Sunday nap and given the final result I believe it was the correct decision!

Wednesday is the night when it'll be evident if Moyes can get anything from this team. After the thumping today, the horrendous display in Greece and the overall limp season, if Moyes cannot motivate the players to perform to their max in a must win, Champions League game against a mediocre side and come away with at least a good performance then he should see out the season and be gone after it. Moyes needs a great performance, even if United don't go through he needs a tactical victory to show that he knows what he's doing and that the dressing-room will still perform for him.

Sometimes when Fellaini plays it can be as though United are down to ten players and the opposition are up to twelve. His passing and tackling are awful. Suarez could of gone over early in the first half from an idiotic rushed tackle from Fellaini and had another penalty.

K4t · 17-03-2014 02:36AM

The Gibzilla wrote: »

I gave it 'til half time today. It was so awful that I switched off and went back to bed for a Sunday nap and given the final result I believe it was the correct decision!

Wednesday is the night when it'll be evident if Moyes can get anything from this team. After the thumping today, the horrendous display in Greece and the overall limp season, if Moyes cannot motivate the players to perform to their max in a must win, Champions League game against a mediocre side and come away with at least a good performance then he should see out the season and be gone after it. Moyes needs a great performance, even if United don't go through he needs a tactical victory to show that he knows what he's doing and that the dressing-room will still perform for him.
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Wednesday is huge now, the performance moreso than the result, which would be a bonus if it saw us through.

Kerrydude1981 · 17-03-2014 02:44AM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Kagawa 25 today

This year wasted at United

I hope for himself he gets a move away in the summer,

Has the time come for Utd to play without RVP?

Push Rooney up top and let Mata/Kagawa play behind,now is the time to try these things out,

Also the new definition of diving is "anticipating contact" its a funny old game getting even funnier by the week.

K4t · 17-03-2014 02:52AM

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

I
Also the new definition of diving is "anticipating contact" its a funny old game getting even funnier by the week.

If diving has taught us anything, it's that footballer's are a lot smarter than given credit for...

recylingbin · 17-03-2014 02:54AM

Every time I've seen Kagawa play, He's been anpnymous. The not playing thing has elevatef him to great player.

17-03-2014 03:50AM

recylingbin wrote: »

Every time I've seen Kagawa play, He's been anpnymous. The not playing thing has elevatef him to great player.

You must not have watched him much then. Or only seen highlight packages. Scholes or Xavi would look anonymous in those. Kagawa's strengths are finding space, receiving the ball in tight spaces and intricate passing combinations. He has great composure on the ball and rarely wastes it. This alone makes him ill fitted for the current United team who constantly give the ball away after poor touches and have vast distances between them. Kagawa oozes class and is one of the top no. 10s in world football. He hasn't gotten a chance to show that at United and I hope beyond belief that he gets a proper crack of the whip for the rest of this season and is accommodated next season because if someone picks him up they'll be getting a world class player at a knockdown price.

scudzilla · 17-03-2014 04:41AM

Well we're 7/4 to qualify for the nxt round and 35/1 to win the thing (i know, i know, not a chance)

My dream, that Liverpool finish 4th and we win the CL, not gonna happen but damn, it'd be hilarious

eyescreamcone · 17-03-2014 05:00AM

scudzilla wrote: »

Well we're 7/4 to qualify for the nxt round and 35/1 to win the thing (i know, i know, not a chance)

My dream, that Liverpool finish 4th and we win the CL, not gonna happen but damn, it'd be hilarious

Liverpool will probably finish higher than 4th.

Utd probably won't win the CL (understatement of the year)

17-03-2014 05:08AM

Outside of those last 2 freak away wins, United have been playing most games like a collection of 11 individuals rather than a team. 30 league games into the season and I still haven't the slightest clue as to what Moyes' plan is. By January gone, signings or none, he should have stablised the club and stopped the freefall. That is if it was actually in his ability to do, but since then it has gone to lows that no fan could have pictured just 8 months ago when the season started.

Losing today wouldn't have been the end of the world, but the manner in which we were beaten was pure torture on the eyes and heart and definitely a brand new low for Manchester United. Liverpool could have had 5-6 penalties because our lads simply couldn't handle them. The reigning champions at home with one shot on goal? Previously unimaginable, but now the reality, and sadly not a surprising one.

Moyes seems to be taking top players and turning them into Sunday leaguers. IMO Juan Mata shows a little less creativity with each game he plays in the red shirt, RVP is 47% of the player he was last season, Rooney is working like a horse but with little to no end product, Michael Carrick has gone back to the M.C. of 4-5 years ago. A huge fire needs to be lit under the likes of these players but Moyes doesn't have the petrol or the matches to do it.

There are absolutely no positives to cling to for the near future, and the long-term future looks bleaker and bleaker with each new low United hit. This time one year ago we were starting to wrap up the title, now we're back in that 7th spot we've been occupying most of the season. From what I have seen so far with David Moyes and Manchester United, it's been enough for me to know that I don't want him spending £200 million in the summer or anything like it. I have no doubt that Manchester United will still manage to lure top players, but it's that I don't see them remaining top players for long once our manager and his coaching staff gets their hands on them.

2013-2014, a season to write off. However I honestly feel that if Moyes remains in charge into next season, it won't be long before we're writing off 2014-2015 as well.

Oh, and I am now hoping it'll be Arsenal or Chelsea for the title. How any sound-minded United fan could be content to see Liverpool win their first PL title is beyond me. If Stevie G gets a PL medal, let it be an honorary one at the BBC Sports Personality Of The Year 2054. Even City, couldn't give a shíte, so long as it's A.B.L.

Jimmy Iovine · 17-03-2014 06:13AM

Pro. F wrote: »

It was a clean and hard tackle on their captain who is old. It was in an area of the pitch where it was safe to make it. It was exactly the type of tackle you want to see in a big derby game.

The fact that Jones got himself hurt making the tackle, and gets hurt so often, is a worry. If you said that was the issue, I would agree. But complaining about the tackle itself is all sorts of wrong.

I meant reckless to his own health. It was a great tackle. He looked in bits after it, like his knee had given way.

Dicky Pride · 17-03-2014 07:38AM

Pro. F wrote: »

You were probably abused because so many people dislike you because you whine like you are doing in this post so often.

Lol you must think I care. The majority of the people who "despise" me and go around licking the arse of anyone who insults me are just kids who haven't a clue what they're talking about. The same two or three people who don't like what I have to say continue to follow me around this thread making digs...it's laughable.

This whole thread is a little clique, mostly filled with people that think they're man Utd supporters but they're actually just arm chair experts who have probably never been near the stretford end. I'm not here to make friends, im here to talk about man utd. People hate to be proven wrong so that probably explains why they hate what I say so much.

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