Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

gosplan · 16-03-2014 09:15PM

beno619 wrote: »

The lengths you go to defend Moyes are incredible, Jan was one of our better performers today.

Martinez has his team playing better football and in a much more difficult PL climate are ahead of United.

Moyes got Everton into the CL. Let's see Martinez do that.

Look. I don't think it has or will work out for Moyes at Utd but that's not to say he can't manage. He did great with Everton for years on a shoestring and that pretty much proves his competency.

But no-one wanted him at Man Utd. Not the fans and certainly not the players. Everyone just went along with it because it was Fergie's choice andvthey believed in it from that regard rsther than having some kind if unshakeable faith in moyes.

They won't play for him, they never would. There's a justified self-image or ego that Utd has as one of the world's biggest clubs. Rooney fits it, RVP fits it - Moyes does not and never did. None of the players ever dreamed of playing for Utd and included Moyes in that.

It 's bit Moyes fault though and it's not that he can't manage.

Will I Amnt · 16-03-2014 09:17PM

Roll on the Summer :pac:

ush · 16-03-2014 09:22PM

gosplan wrote: »

Moyes got Everton into the CL.

Nope. They lost the qualifier to Villa Real.

dubmick · 16-03-2014 09:24PM

Gerrard: I don't think Man Utd defenders have ever had a harder 90 minutes than that.

Oh f*ck off..two champions league finals against Messi and Barca.

Back to the game, United were a shambles. Rafael should have been sent off but how many times have we seen that. Carrick was useless. Mata is being played out of position. Rooney had a brutal game and wouldn't we all love the RVP of 2012 back. The current one couldn't score in a brothel.

Vidic shouldn't have lunged in against Sturridge despite not touching him. Seriously, sent off four times in this fixture. That and giving away 3 penalties today. You could make this sh*t up. Really think Liverpool could do it this year. Horrible, horrible thought.

Wait until the 75th minute to make a substitution? Bringing Rio on at the end ??? Just nonsense. One shot on target. Nine league defeats by mid March. More torture to come this week against the Greeks and then what are Yaya and Silva going to do us the following week.

Time for a drink.

Hank Scorpio · 16-03-2014 09:24PM

ush wrote: »

Nope. They lost the qualifier to Villa Real.

And Bolton and Middlesborough came 6th and 7th..

All you have to do is look at his away record vs the bigger teams

beno619 · 16-03-2014 09:25PM

gosplan wrote: »

It 's bit Moyes fault though and it's not that he can't manage.

He's struggled to show any signs of being a good manager. He's failed to address major issues in the playing staff. Picked poor starting line ups and decent substitutions have been none existent. Interviews are painful. Alienated a chunk of the playing squad or got rid of useful ones. Indulged consistently poor players and bottled big decisions.

Rayne Wooney · 16-03-2014 09:27PM

He kept Everton competitive with Spurs and Liverpool on 1/7th of their budget finishing above the latter the last two seasons in a row, FFS we're not bringing this up again are we

He did a really great job at Everton, he's not cut out for United but it's just pure emotions talking if people are trying to take away from his time at Everton

ShaneU · 16-03-2014 09:30PM

@OliverKayTimes

#MUFC have won as many points at home as Norwich this season (21), one more than Palace. They've scored as many goals at home (18) as Fulham

Dear god

Cantona's Collars · 16-03-2014 09:31PM

dubmick wrote: »

Gerrard: I don't think Man Utd defenders have ever had a harder 90 minutes than that.

Oh f*ck off..two champions league finals against Messi and Barca.

De Gea wasn't exactly the busiest 'keeper this weekend.They got through twice & he saved one of those shots,the other 2 goals were pens.
The horrible part was the way we just let them play the way they wanted,ffs we even let West Brom do that at OT earlier in the season.

Deiseboy01 · 16-03-2014 09:35PM

Dicky Pride wrote: »

Totally deluded. He doesn't even believe himself at this stage.

I don't think he ever did

beno619 · 16-03-2014 09:36PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

He kept Everton competitive with Spurs and Liverpool on 1/7th of their budget finishing above the latter the last two seasons in a row, FFS we're not bringing this up again are we

He did a really great job at Everton, he's not cut out for United but it's just pure emotions talking if people are trying to take away from his time at Everton

Some posters need to stop bringing up Martinez and Everton as some sort of deflection tactic.

Really doesn't matter anyway. He's been a poor United manager thats all anybody will remember.

irishfeen · 16-03-2014 09:38PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I would give anything to hear what was going through his head while watching that s.hite today

nullzero · 16-03-2014 09:40PM

dubmick wrote: »

Gerrard: I don't think Man Utd defenders have ever had a harder 90 minutes than that.

Oh f*ck off..two champions league finals against Messi and Barca.

Back to the game, United were a shambles. Rafael should have been sent off but how many times have we seen that. Carrick was useless. Mata is being played out of position. Rooney had a brutal game and wouldn't we all love the RVP of 2012 back. The current one couldn't score in a brothel.

Vidic shouldn't have lunged in against Sturridge despite not touching him. Seriously, sent off four times in this fixture. That and giving away 3 penalties today. You could make this sh*t up. Really think Liverpool could do it this year. Horrible, horrible thought.

Wait until the 75th minute to make a substitution? Bringing Rio on at the end ??? Just nonsense. One shot on target. Nine league defeats by mid March. More torture to come this week against the Greeks and then what are Yaya and Silva going to do us the following week.

Time for a drink.

Gerrard loves a controversial quote about United. His career is almost over and with any luck he will never have a league winners medal. Liverpool legend and one club man who nearly took Roman Abramovich's hand off when the chance to head to Stamford Bridge came up ten years ago with a big pay packet. That and he is seemingly incapable of smiling which is something a millionaire footballer should be able to do quite a lot of.

Lord TSC · 16-03-2014 09:42PM

irishfeen wrote: »

I would give anything to hear what was going through his head while watching that s.hite today

Still confident he'll make it to Jan 1st? Or shall I start picking out a charity

Agueroooo · 16-03-2014 09:43PM

nullzero wrote: »

Gerrard loves a controversial quote about United. His career is almost over and with any luck he will never have a league winners medal. Liverpool legend and one club man who nearly took Roman Abramovich's hand off when the chance to head to Stamford Bridge came up ten years ago with a big pay packet. That and he is seemingly incapable of smiling which is something a millionaire footballer should be able to do quite a lot of.

lol you have answered your own question twice in that mini rant.

Cantona's Collars · 16-03-2014 09:52PM

Think I'll load up PES & try to replicate how we are playing,the first step could be to try to use the controller upside down.

Robson99 · 16-03-2014 09:52PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

On a related note....am I alone in thinking it's crazy Vidic was given the armband when he's quite publicly signed a contract with another club? I know he's a leader and all that, but I really don't think we should be looking to a guy who is gone in a few weeks to lead us in such a big game

You are dead right. In fact when he announced he was leaving at the end of the season he should have had the captaincy taken off him straight away and dropped to the bench. Whats the point in playing him when he gone in another 7 or 8 games. Play Smalling and Jones, let the get game time together and forget about Vidic

irishfeen · 16-03-2014 09:53PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Still confident he'll make it to Jan 1st? Or shall I start picking out a charity

I thought we already decided on the Cancer Society?? ... Ah he is on shaky ground - lose in CL and Man City and I think he could very well be in trouble.

Lord TSC · 16-03-2014 09:54PM

irishfeen wrote: »

I thought we already decided on the Cancer Society?? ... Ah he is on shaky ground - lose in CL and Man City and I think he could very well be in trouble.

Ah yeah, so we did. Look forward to them getting your money :P

Chagan · 16-03-2014 09:56PM

Robson99 wrote: »

You are dead right. In fact when he announced he was leaving at the end of the season he should have had the captaincy taken off him straight away and dropped to the bench. Whats the point in playing him when he gone in another 7 or 8 games. Play Smalling and Jones, let the get game time together and forget about Vidic

To be fair, Smalling and Evans were injured today. I'd have Vidic, mixed loyalties and all, ahead of Rio. I agree about the captaincy though.

beno619 · 16-03-2014 09:58PM

Robson99 wrote: »

You are dead right. In fact when he announced he was leaving at the end of the season he should have had the captaincy taken off him straight away and dropped to the bench. Whats the point in playing him when he gone in another 7 or 8 games. Play Smalling and Jones, let the get game time together and forget about Vidic

Smalling was injured. It was between Vidic and Rio today.

blueser · 16-03-2014 09:59PM

http://www.nationalturk.com/en/manchester-united-0-liverpool-3-gonna-sack-david-moyes-epl-exclusive-news-48428

Probably BS, but it's only a matter of time now.

irishfeen · 16-03-2014 10:00PM

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Ah yeah, so we did. Look forward to them getting your money :P

And I gladly will if it turns out that way, don't count your chickens yet though :pac:

Robson99 · 16-03-2014 10:02PM

Chagan wrote: »

To be fair, Smalling and Evans were injured today. I'd have Vidic, mixed loyalties and all, ahead of Rio. I agree about the captaincy though.

Fair enough on the injury front today. But for the rest of the season some one of the younger players should be brought in and given experience and forget about Vidic. Hes gone in a few weeks anyway. [tbh hes gone down hill since Rio started to go down hill. Rio was the making of Vidic in many ways

Cantona's Collars · 16-03-2014 10:06PM

Laurent Blanc:

"Sacking Moyes wouldn't be a mistake, keeping him would. Here in France he would have been sacked 3 times."

Lord TSC · 16-03-2014 10:06PM

blueser wrote: »

http://www.nationalturk.com/en/manchester-united-0-liverpool-3-gonna-sack-david-moyes-epl-exclusive-news-48428

Probably BS, but it's only a matter of time now.

Going to see a lot of journalists getting onto this sort of story now in the hopes of looking ITK when he does get sacked.

Lord TSC · 16-03-2014 10:07PM

zerks wrote: »

Laurent Blanc:

"Sacking Moyes wouldn't be a mistake, keeping him would. Here in France he would have been sacked 3 times."

Is that legit? :eek:

beno619 · 16-03-2014 10:09PM

Robson99 wrote: »

Fair enough on the injury front today. But for the rest of the season some one of the younger players should be brought in and given experience and forget about Vidic. Hes gone in a few weeks anyway. [tbh hes gone down hill since Rio started to go down hill. Rio was the making of Vidic in many ways

Wouldn't agree with this, Rio came in vs Arsenal and was great, was grand against Palace as well. He's just another casualty of the Moyes era, there's no way he should have been playing 7-8 consecutive games like he was at the start of the season. Vida played well enough today as he has throughout a injury hit season.

MagicMarker · 16-03-2014 10:16PM

blueser wrote: »

http://www.nationalturk.com/en/manchester-united-0-liverpool-3-gonna-sack-david-moyes-epl-exclusive-news-48428

Probably BS, but it's only a matter of time now.

The national ****in Turk???

Nalz · 16-03-2014 10:17PM

zerks wrote: »

Laurent Blanc:

"Sacking Moyes wouldn't be a mistake, keeping him would. Here in France he would have been sacked 3 times."

Vialli said something similar re Italian league

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