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1.4 Petrol - 2008 or 2009

  • 16-03-2014 07:19PM
    #1
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭


    Hello,

    I was wondering if anyone has one of the following cars (2008 or 2009) and would be able to provide an opinion in terms of pros and cons:

    - Kia Ceed 1.4
    - Hyundai i30 1.4
    - Skoda Octavia 1.4
    - Citroen C4 1.4

    Open to other suggestions within family cars category.

    If there is another thread with same topic it would be great if you could point me on that direction.

    Thanks for any help.


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  • #2
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    xpto wrote: »
    Hello,

    I was wondering if anyone has one of the following cars (2008 or 2009) and would be able to provide an opinion in terms of pros and cons:

    - Kia Ceed 1.4
    - Hyundai i30 1.4
    - Skoda Octavia 1.4
    - Citroen C4 1.4

    Open to other suggestions within family cars category.

    If there is another thread with same topic it would be great if you could point me on that direction.

    Thanks for any help.
    I'd have none of those. IMO the only reason to buy a Hyundai/Kia is for the warranty, which would be expired by now.
    Toyota Auris/Corolla without a shadow of a doubt is the most reliable 1.4 car out there. Or maybe a Honda Civic.


  • #3
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Hi,

    What sort of driving is involved and how big a family in terms of what you will be carrying as these would be underpowered for the size of the cars of that era.


  • #4
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Hi,

    What sort of driving is involved and how big a family in terms of what you will be carrying as these would be underpowered for the size of the cars of that era.

    I saw that these engines have around 100hp so I was assuming they would perform quite well, however I haven´t tried one yet. How would they perform with 4 passengers? Would they be too noise when driving motorway? High fuel consumption?

    Thanks


  • #5
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    The Octavia would be a very heavy car for that size of engine. Really, it should have a 1.6 at a minimum.
    The others would be ok/adequate with a 1.4. I presume you are looking at petrol models?


  • #6
    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    pablo128 wrote: »
    I'd have none of those. IMO the only reason to buy a Hyundai/Kia is for the warranty, which would be expired by now.
    Toyota Auris/Corolla without a shadow of a doubt is the most reliable 1.4 car out there. Or maybe a Honda Civic.

    The Hyundai i30 and KIA cee'd are both very good cars.

    They both are better cars than the corolla/auris which are poor cars in most departments and are cheaply built. Reliability isn't anything to write home about either on them.


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  • #7
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,041 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Out of curiosity OP - why are you limiting your options to 1.4 on 08-09 car which tax will be based on emissions anyway?


  • #8
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    pablo128 wrote: »
    The Octavia would be a very heavy car for that size of engine. Really, it should have a 1.6 at a minimum.
    The others would be ok/adequate with a 1.4. I presume you are looking at petrol models?

    I am indeed, mainly because I don´t drive enough miles to go with a diesel and looking at 1.4 to save on tax road.


  • #9
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    xpto wrote: »
    I am indeed, mainly because I don´t drive enough miles to go with a diesel and looking at 1.4 to save on tax road.


    Check the emmisions as some bigger engines are as good as small check the price for after 08.

    1.6 would be a better engine as you don't have to push it as hard as a 1.4 to get it going.


  • #10
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,041 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    xpto wrote: »
    I am indeed, mainly because I don´t drive enough miles to go with a diesel and looking at 1.4 to save on tax road.

    As I mentioned above - motor tax on cars 08 onwards is calculated on CO2 emissions - not engine capacity.
    F.e. Hyundai i30, costs the same to tax in 1.4 and 1.6 petrol versions.
    Difference in fuel economy is negligible between those two engines - if any.


  • #11
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Check the emmisions as some bigger engines are as good as small check the price for after 08.

    1.6 would be a better engine as you don't have to push it as hard as a 1.4 to get it going.

    Would you recommend any in particular? Because Kia Ceed and Hyundai i30 1.6 petrol were not made available in Ireland, I looked at Leon 1.6 for example but tax road was between 500 and 600 euro...


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  • #12
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    CiniO wrote: »
    As I mentioned above - motor tax on cars 08 onwards is calculated on CO2 emissions - not engine capacity.
    F.e. Hyundai i30, costs the same to tax in 1.4 and 1.6 petrol versions.
    Difference in fuel economy is negligible between those two engines - if any.

    I couldn´t find the 1.6 petrol and the ones I looked at the tax road was between 500 and 600 euro.


  • #13
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    xpto wrote: »
    Would you recommend any in particular? Because Kia Ceed and Hyundai i30 1.6 petrol were not made available in Ireland, I looked at Leon 1.6 for example but tax road was between 500 and 600 euro...


    What sort of driving will you be doing?
    Short/long, town/motorway?


  • #14
    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    xpto wrote: »
    Would you recommend any in particular? Because Kia Ceed and Hyundai i30 1.6 petrol were not made available in Ireland, I looked at Leon 1.6 for example but tax road was between 500 and 600 euro...

    Nothing wrong with the performance of a 1.4 kia/ Hyundai. They have 108bhp which is above or on par with many 1.6 engines. You would be better off buying an example registered before mid 2008 though as it will be on the cc tax system, thus being cheaper to tax.


  • #15
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    What sort of driving will you be doing?
    Short/long, town/motorway?

    It will be mostly town.


  • #16
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    xpto wrote: »
    It will be mostly town.
    Then as you have decided on 1.4 that would be ideal for what you need.

    Town driving and that will be fine for cars you have picked.


  • #17
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    CiniO wrote: »
    Out of curiosity OP - why are you limiting your options to 1.4 on 08-09 car which tax will be based on emissions anyway?

    When looking at the 1.6 used cars it seems that their tax road is higher than a 1.4 due to higher emissions. Would recommend any 1.6 family car in particular?


  • #18
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,041 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    xpto wrote: »
    When looking at the 1.6 used cars it seems that their tax road is higher than a 1.4 due to higher emissions. Would recommend any 1.6 family car in particular?

    Yes. Hyundai i30 1.6
    Tax on i30 is the same for 1.4 and 1.6 versions and accounts for the moment to
    €390 per annum.
    Only thing as you said - they are virtually not available in Ireland.
    Why not though get one from NI or UK?


  • #19
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    CiniO wrote: »
    Yes. Hyundai i30 1.6
    Tax on i30 is the same for 1.4 and 1.6 versions and accounts for the moment to
    €390 per annum.
    Only thing as you said - they are virtually not available in Ireland.
    Why not though get one from NI or UK?

    Would there be a vrt cost associated to it?


  • #20
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,746 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    If you are considering an Auris then stretch to a 2009 UK import as they would have got the newer 1.33 litre dual VVTi engine whereas Toyota continued to sell the older 1.4 litre engine here until the facelift in 2010. 1.33 litre engine only costs €280 to tax per year, its more powerful and has better fuel economy that the 1.4 litre it replaced. My old man has one and while it isn't a class leader in any way and boring as hell, it hasn't skipped a beat in the 3 years he has had it and he does similar driving to you. Most UK models are higher spec too.


  • #21
    MuppetCheck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,830 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    xpto wrote: »
    Would you recommend any in particular? Because Kia Ceed and Hyundai i30 1.6 petrol were not made available in Ireland, I looked at Leon 1.6 for example but tax road was between 500 and 600 euro...

    Look at the Leon 1.4 tsi, the one with the turbo. It's a local engine and decent on juice too.


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  • #22
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    Thank you all for the inputs and ideas. Just a last one - any thoughts on the Vauxhall Astra 1.3 diesel 2008 or 2009?

    Thanks


  • #23
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,746 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    You said earlier that you don't do enough miles to justify a diesel, has that changed?


  • #24
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    bazz26 wrote: »
    You said earlier that you don't do enough miles to justify a diesel, has that changed?

    It's just that the price of this model is under 8k which is cheaper than a 1.4 Hyundai or Kia Ceed from the same years with low mileage.


  • #25
    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    xpto wrote: »
    It's just that the price of this model is under 8k which is cheaper than a 1.4 Hyundai or Kia Ceed from the same years with low mileage.

    I'd have the kia/Hyundai over one tbh


  • #26
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,539 ✭✭✭jca


    xpto wrote: »
    Hello,

    I was wondering if anyone has one of the following cars (2008 or 2009) and would be able to provide an opinion in terms of pros and cons:

    - Kia Ceed 1.4
    - Hyundai i30 1.4
    - Skoda Octavia 1.4
    - Citroen C4 1.4

    Open to other suggestions within family cars category.

    If there is another thread with same topic it would be great if you could point me on that direction.

    Thanks for any help.

    I recently bought a 09 petrol octavia. It has the 1.4 TSI engine which produces 122 bhp. Mine is the dsg and in two tanks of fuel my mpg was 32. The manual would probably fare slightly better. Tax is €390. The earlier 1.4 is a thirsty slug with tax near €500 not a nice car at all.


  • #27
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    jca wrote: »
    I recently bought a 09 petrol octavia. It has the 1.4 TSI engine which produces 122 bhp. Mine is the dsg and in two tanks of fuel my mpg was 32. The manual would probably fare slightly better. Tax is €390. The earlier 1.4 is a thirsty slug with tax near €500 not a nice car at all.


    Wow is that all your getting I'm getting 30 - 35 from 2litre turbo VRs petrol.


  • #28
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,539 ✭✭✭jca


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Wow is that all your getting I'm getting 30 - 35 from 2litre turbo VRs petrol.

    That's actual mpg, set odo to zero,fill tank, do calculations. Not what the display tells me. My driving is all short trips unfortunately. If I had a petrol vrs I'd be lucky to break the 25 mpg figure.


  • #29
    xpto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭xpto


    jca wrote: »
    I recently bought a 09 petrol octavia. It has the 1.4 TSI engine which produces 122 bhp. Mine is the dsg and in two tanks of fuel my mpg was 32. The manual would probably fare slightly better. Tax is €390. The earlier 1.4 is a thirsty slug with tax near €500 not a nice car at all.

    I assume that the Seat Leon 1.4 TSI is the same engine with probably better mpg figure? What would be the downsides of the Leon?


  • #30
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    xpto wrote: »
    I assume that the Seat Leon 1.4 TSI is the same engine with probably better mpg figure? What would be the downsides of the Leon?


    The latest 1 had a great review on fiffth gear.
    They look amazing and are based off the VW Schirroco.


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  • #31
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    xpto wrote: »
    I assume that the Seat Leon 1.4 TSI is the same engine with probably better mpg figure? What would be the downsides of the Leon?
    I know little about the Leon 1.4 TSI. However, a workmate has an '08 one he boought recently, and had it checked by a main dealer Seat mechanic friend of his who gave it a clean bill of health.It's actually off the road now having a new turbo, and rings and bearings.
    He had a Corolla for 3 years before that which never missed a beat.....


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