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Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Come on ref ffs.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Sammy on for Griffiths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Samaras spent long enough warming up!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    'Mon Stokesy, do a better job than before on this free.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    2-1 FT. Well played Aberdeen.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Lennonist


    Decent effort with 10 men to come from 2 down. Season well and truly over now, will win the league in a few weeks. A chance to play some fringe players and prepare for next summers CL qualifiers. Would like to see Balde among others get a run in the team to see if he can develop into a real option for next season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    What do people think of the attendance figures (capacity 60,355) this season? So far, highest is 52,670, lowest is 44,271, average 46,659. Would expect this figure to drift down now as the interest generated in trying to go unbeaten in the league has unfortunately gone.

    http://www.fitbastats.com/celtic/club_records_league_attendance.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Dont care tbh


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    What do people think of the attendance figures (capacity 60,355) this season? So far, highest is 52,670, lowest is 44,271, average 46,659. Would expect this figure to drift down now as the interest generated in trying to go unbeaten in the league has unfortunately gone.

    http://www.fitbastats.com/celtic/club_records_league_attendance.php

    Don't think that would make much of a difference to the crowds either way. Being knocked out of cups would have a bigger effect on attendances.

    It's irrelevant anyway, nothing we can do about the situation now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Don't think that would make much of a difference to the crowds either way. Being knocked out of cups would have a bigger effect on attendances.

    It's irrelevant anyway, nothing we can do about the situation now.

    Most of the clubs income is generated in the 1st 3-6 months of the season. The 2nd half of the season is generally a exercise in trying to just break even, even when Rangers where in the SPL even if we were still in the Cups.

    We'll make a loss in the period Jan to Jun but the money made between Jul-Dec will more than soften the blow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Missed the game tonight but now that the unbeaten run has gone I hope we'll see the fringe players getting some games.

    No need for someone like Sammy getting games from here on.

    I do worry that the number of meaningless games we play once we go out of Europe will make it very difficult to keep players at the club. Months of dull games will be fresh in the minds of players and I can see a few being tempted away if offers come in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    RoryMac wrote: »
    Missed the game tonight but now that the unbeaten run has gone I hope we'll see the fringe players getting some games.

    No need for someone like Sammy getting games from here on.

    I do worry that the number of meaningless games we play once we go out of Europe will make it very difficult to keep players at the club. Months of dull games will be fresh in the minds of players and I can see a few being tempted away if offers come in.

    Its the players failures on the field that the club doesnt have cup competition to look forward to. Its their incredible form in the league that has them miles out ahead and strolling to the title. Seems like you're damned if you do, damned if you dont when it comes to critiquing Celtic's season and its not lost on Neil Lennon.
    Neil Lennon can't believe Celtic's season has been written off as a failure in some quarters as his squad close in on a third consecutive league title. (Various)

    As for 'bored' players, they are playing for their next contract, be it at Celtic or elsewhere. Thats how professional footballers think. The entertainment factor for fans is just PR. Some see it away from Celtic in the EPL & they need to be producing it in those 'dull' games just like the high profile games to get what they are looking for. The rest wont do better than playing for Celtic.

    Winning the league to have another crack at the UCL is the corner stone of any season for Celtic. Thats firmly on course, whether its a stroll or a tightly contested battle is a criticism for the other clubs in the Premiership, not Celtic. The only questions that can be put to Celtic is, did the players & management consistently play to the standards you set for yourselves?

    In the league, its not for debate. In the cups though, opinions will differ. IMO, the failure in the League Cup was down to the players, they failed to put away chances. The Scottish Cup, imo, is down to Lennon not changing his tactics/team quicker when the teams performance was 'flat'.

    There is plenty of aspects of the clubs management that can be improved & there is plenty of aspects of the squad that can be improved. In reality it will always be an ongoing process for one reason or another. Overall, most of the failures stem back to the failures in how the club did their business last summer and how next season goes will be underpinned by how they conduct their business in the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Celtic team to play Inverness: Forster; Matthews, Ambrose, Van Dijk, Izaguirre; Forrest, Brown, Biton, Mulgrew; Stokes, Griffiths

    Subs: Zaluska, Samaras, Boerrigter, Commons, Johansen, Kayal, Fisher


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Celtic team to play Inverness: Forster; Matthews, Ambrose, Van Dijk, Izaguirre; Forrest, Brown, Biton, Mulgrew; Stokes, Griffiths

    Subs: Zaluska, Samaras, Boerrigter, Commons, Johansen, Kayal, Fisher

    Biton looking great the last few weeks, hopefully that continues.

    Fisher on bench instead of young Irishman O'Connell who happens to be Paul O'Connells (Irish rugby player) cousin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Leigh Griffiths 1-0 after 11 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Biton looking great the last few weeks, hopefully that continues.

    Fisher on bench instead of young Irishman O'Connell who happens to be Paul O'Connells (Irish rugby player) cousin.

    O'Connell was never going to make the bench ahead of Fisher :confused:

    EDIT

    Missed the 2 goals as I scrambled to find another stream! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Dempsey wrote: »
    O'Connell was never going to make the bench ahead of Fisher :confused:

    100% agree! Fisher has been fantastic.

    Just pointing out that O'Connell has been dropped in favour of him.

    2-0 Mulgrew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    100% agree! Fisher has been fantastic.

    Just pointing out that O'Connell has been dropped in favour of him.

    2-0 Mulgrew.

    Its been 3 matches or so since O'Connell made the bench. Fisher has been making bench because he's covering both fullbacks. It was never a case of picking one or the other


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Another excellent finish from Griffiths

    EDIT

    Poor miss by Griffiths for his hattrick but the pass back from Stokes should have been alot better.

    EDIT

    Commons goal was embarrassing for the keeper

    Griffith Hattrick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Lennonist


    http://vimeo.com/87947135

    Todays goals. Fair play to Griffiths, definitely looks like he'll score plenty at SPL level, hopefully he can score in Europe next season as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    I would have been shocked if he wasnt able to show the form that made him a proven SPL goalscorer. He's looking like a bargain signing so far. Its all about if he can keep his head down and work towards improving his game so he can make the step up in european games. In games where we dominate, he'll always do well but its when we dont dominate teams like we are accustomed to is where we need a player to take half chances and turn them into goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭eire4


    Lennonist wrote: »
    http://vimeo.com/87947135

    Todays goals. Fair play to Griffiths, definitely looks like he'll score plenty at SPL level, hopefully he can score in Europe next season as well.


    Certainly he looks like the kind of out and out goalscorer we have needed so badly since Hooper was sold in the summer. Biton looks like he is starting to feel comfortable in a Celtic shirt now as well and is looking like he could turn into a big player for us next season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,761 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    CELTIC have called for a review of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Grounds Act to be brought forward and have labelled it ´unhelpful and counter-productive´.

    The Scottish Government introduced the legislation in 2012 and promised a review after two full football seasons of operation. However, Celtic believe that there is already sufficient evidence of the Act´s ´unhelpfulness and negative impacts´ to justify an immediate review with action to follow.

    Celtic have all along opposed this legislation which has been used to create a general presumption that different laws should apply to football supporters as distinct from society as a whole.

    This has inevitably led to a sense of discrimination across Scottish football and has brought the law into disrepute when tested in the criminal courts. It has also acted as a barrier to our own efforts to encourage supporters to behave in a way which is consistent with the club´s proud history and reputation.

    We believe the Scottish Government should review, as a matter of urgency, the way in which this unhelpful and counter-productive Act is operating.

    Celtic have always valued a positive relationship with the police and we are concerned that they too have now been put in the position of enforcing legislation which is provocative and does not command widespread respect.

    The Scottish Government has conceded the need to review the workings of the legislation but we see no need for delay since there is plenty of evidence available, not least from the comments of Sheriffs who have had to deal with cases arising from it.

    It would be helpful if the new season could kick off in August with these issues resolved so that everyone could concentrate on promoting the best possible environment for Scottish football and marginalising unwelcome influences which attach themselves to it.

    http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=5529


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Its about time they took that stance, hopefully other the clubs will voice their concerns too in a similar public manner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26426794

    Celtic's Peter Lawwell appointed to European Club Association board
    Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell has been elected to the executive board of the European Club Association.

    He joins other existing board members including chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge of Bayern Munich and AC Milan's Umberto Gandini.

    The European Club Association is the sole, independent body directly representing clubs at European level.

    "This is a tremendous honour and a role which I very much look forward to," Lawwell told Celtic's website.

    Edwin van der Sar of Ajax and Arsenal's representative Ivan Gazidis also feature on the board.

    Lawwell's election follows the resignation of Zoran Mamic from Dinamo Zagreb.

    "European football is an ever-changing landscape and from the perspective of Celtic, it is vital that we ensure we are at the heart of the action and at the centre of discussions regarding the development of the game," said Celtic's chief executive.

    "As we look to the future, I look forward to representing Celtic, Scottish clubs and the other clubs in Europe to ensure that the voice of these clubs and their supporters is heard."

    Last weekend, Lawwell expressed concerns over the lack of competition in Scotland's top flight.

    The reigning champions are 21 points clear at the top of the Premiership and are close to a third straight title.

    I suppose its recognition of how good a job he's been doing for Celtic and his role in the transition from the SPL to SPFL. He can strengthen the voice of Scottish Football/Smaller Leagues at European Level with in turn will benefit Celtic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Seems Nir Bitons season could be over after last night. Tore a muscle in his thigh or something. That is frustrating as he was really starting to show how good he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    That's a blow alright, he looked like he was developing very well and growing into an important player for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


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    It will be nice to see it when its done

    EDIT

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26480459
    Celtic will beat Everton and Liverpool to the signature of a 13-year-old goalkeeper only days after he made his debut for Hamilton Under-20s.

    Joshua Rae, who is 6ft 1in, played the final six minutes of Monday's 3-1 win over Partick Thistle's second string.

    He was due to have a second trial spell with Liverpool, having also been with Premier League rivals Everton.

    But Accies director Allan Maitland told BBC Scotland: "His family have decided his future lies with Celtic."

    Rae, who had previously been with Celtic and also travelled to Spain for a trial with Atletico Madrid last year, had become the youngest player to appear for Accies at under-20 level.

    Maitland hoped to persuade the Croy teenager and his family to continue his development with the Scottish Championship club.

    "I am disappointed to lose another player," said Maitland, the ex-Accies team manager who is now the director in charge of youth development.

    "But I recognise that, as a Celtic supporter, when Celtic come calling, it is hard to resist.

    "My argument was that he has developed better with us since leaving Celtic two years ago, but he will be signing for Celtic next week after he attends a Scotland trial."

    13 years old and 6ft 1in???! :eek: Looks like a serious prospect!

    The Sun's article is an epic fail though!

    http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/article5491991.ece
    Hamilton Academical goalkeeper Joshua Rae, who made his debut for the reserves this week aged 13, is heading for a trial with Liverpool after the Scottish Championship club rejected two bids from Celtic.



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    Celtic progress excites majority shareholder Dermot Desmond

    Majority shareholder Dermot Desmond thinks Celtic are the best performing club on and off the pitch in Britain.

    Desmond this week celebrates 20 years with the Scottish champions after joining forces with Fergus McCann to keep the club from going bust.

    He said the "balance-sheet performance and the performance on the field exceeds any other (UK) club".

    And he qualified the claim by adding "we are shackled by lack of TV revenue and other comparable income".

    Last month, Celtic, who are cantering to a third successive title, announced half yearly pre-tax profits of £21.3m and Desmond thinks the next 20 years can be even brighter.

    Talking to Celtic TV he continued: "We have got financial stability, good organisational structures as far as scouting, development squad and coaching go. We have a vision of how we want to keep on improving the playing squad.

    "If you look at the squads over the past few years, they are getting better and better each year.

    "I see the club getting stronger on the playing field. I see the club being visionary in developing internationally. And I see the Celtic fans and the club having a partnership that will be a model for all other football clubs."

    Meanwhile, Celtic have arranged a friendly against Bayer Leverkusen at Helsinki's Olympic Stadium on 2 August. Celtic Park is unavailable because it is being used to stage the opening ceremony for the Commonwealth Games.

    Best run club in Britain, maybe but there is plenty of scope for further improvement despite being in the SPFL too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Celtic left-back Emilio Izaguirre wants to stay with the club for the rest of his career.

    Full story: Daily Express

    Loyalty is a rare thing in modern football but he needs proper competition for his place before he gets too comfortable!

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/the-bank-were-scared-into-acting-in-a-cowardly-and-immoral-fashion.23633095

    Celtic, in March 1994, were not the financial basket case that has been made out.
    The bottom line is that canny, dime-conscious Fergus McCann paid me £300 per share for my holding in the club. He did so, because, despite all the hot air surrounding Celtic's plight, it was obvious the club had significant assets that could be exploited to make considerable amounts of money. And McCann did just that, walking away, a few years later, with £35m generated by the supporters.

    However, he failed to fulfil one of his major promises to those supporters: that the club would never again be run by a cabal. In fact, the club today is under the control of a single large shareholder over whom the fans who were persuaded to buy shares can exercise no effective constraint. McCann could have avoided that if, on departure, he had gifted his shareholding to the other shareholder supporters.

    For all the fuss about a bungling board, it was not the old regime's inability to run Celtic as a business that irked the fans. It was the lack of performance on the field that caused the unrest. Celtic in the late 1980s had to contend with a Rangers team which, though cowboy-built on borrowed sand, proved too strong an outfit for Celtic on the field. The very fans who now laugh at the demise of our rivals were the same people who wanted Celtic to follow the same road.

    The discontent was exploited by a group who saw the chance to profit from the situation. Their plan was to drive down the value of the club by a campaign, which included a boycott, to create even more antipathy towards the directors. This scared the Bank of Scotland into stepping in, forcing the shareholders to sell despite the fact the club's own plans for recapitalisation were only six weeks from fruition.

    It is no surprise, looking back, that the bank Celtic had used for 106 years behaved in such an immoral and cowardly fashion. A few years later, they raped the whole of the British economy in the same way.

    So the fans got their wish. Celtic would be run as a business. However, they confused that with success on the field. McCann delivered one but not the other. He presided over a series of results that represented all-time lows in Celtic history. There were many embarrassing defeats. But one result stands out: Celtic losing to Raith Rovers in the League Cup final. It was the first time Celtic had lost in the cup to a club from a lower division. Sadly, that result has been repeated against a series of minor teams until the present day. So poor was McCann's record that he left Celtic Park not only with a bulging bank balance, but with the boos of the fans ringing in his ears. The club had been re-financed, the stadium transformed, yet the fans' major aspiration had been left unfulfilled.

    Since McCann left, thanks to a more balanced approach, trophies have been won, and prestigious results have been recorded in Europe. Indeed, for the level of its revenues, Celtic could be said to have outperformed every other club in Britain.

    However, what has kept the fans in raptures is the slow, lingering death of Rangers. The outcomes of the battles between the two have always been the yardstick. Now Celtic have won the war. In my view, it is a mistake to continue celebrating because it was that competition that kept Scottish football alive. The lack of it has already led Celtic to sell marketable players. It is satisfying that the league will still be won but if Rangers were still in contention would Celtic fans be tolerating the level of performance seen this year?

    The dilemma facing the owner of Celtic - though a millionaire, he is still not wealthy enough to kiss goodbye to the kind of money ploughed into Chelsea or Manchester City - is whether success in Scotland alone will in the long run be enough to retain the fan base. As football is now structured, the significant funds needed to make Celtic competitive in Europe could never be recovered through trading. Such an investment requires an act of heroic charity.

    Celtic's only hope of being in a position to repeat the glories of 1967 is to gain entry to England's Premier League. Revenues would be dramatically enhanced. More importantly, though, money could be risked on additional annual investment in players. There are billionaires interested in the prestige - not available in Scotland - that comes from owning a top English club. The fact that Celtic in England could always be sold on would embolden the current owner.

    Yet a move to England is almost inconceivable as things stand. Too many English clubs have a vested interest in keeping Celtic out. And if Scotland were to vote Yes in September, even the dream would vanish; England would not admit a foreign club to its league. The logic is unavoidable: the existing conservative financial policy dictating that any footballing aspirations are limited is correct.

    That is the long-term outcome of McCann's intervention. Had the club not been attacked so viciously all those years ago and instead been allowed to pursue its own plans, would things today be materially different? I doubt it.

    Thank god he's not involved anymore. He seems to be have a problem with the mere fact that Desmond has a controlling stake rather than what influence he's having on how the club is being run. McCann laid the foundations & Desmond has built on that. They are entitled to what they earn because hindsight has proven them correct, something that seems to be lost on Kelly.

    I would agree with him on the behaviour of the bank. Trying to put Celtic out of business despite the assets, fanbase & earning potential for a bank?? Idiots & Bastards rolled into one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭rosskind


    https://twitter.com/VirgilvDijk/status/442611429519425536

    Do Chelsea have room for him? Even if they only plan to loan out that Zouma fella and sell him in a few years, there's a decent queue. Might be better than them all but still a big risk to go there without a guaranteed place. Maybe Spurs invited him to the game last night and he just ran into Luiz?


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