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  • #152
    Deiseboy01
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Deiseboy01


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    The Deontay Wilder vs Malik Scott fight on 15th of March is now a WBC eliminator. The winner will be mandatory challenger for the winner of the Arreola vs Stiverne fight.

    Great oppurtunity for Wilder to become world champ out of that group IMO.

    Heavyweight division gathering a bit of interest. What happened to the Perez v Jennings eliminator per the above post?


  • #153
    getuponthis
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭getuponthis


    So looks like Khan won the vote to fight Floyd next. Jesus if there was anybody more undeserving it's him. I hope Floyd beats him bad and knocks him into retirement. He's an overhyped joke and an embarrassment!


  • #154
    Littlehorny
    Registered Users Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    ^^^ I think it is Mayweather who deserves more criticism for this match up than Khan to be honest, there is alot of harder fights for Floyd out there and i don't blame Khan for taking a big pay day.


  • #155
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Looks like Froch vs Groves has been agreed. A date in May in a football stadium. Cant wait to see Froch batter him this time


  • #156
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,571 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    Looks like Froch vs Groves has been agreed. A date in May in a football stadium. Cant wait to see Froch batter him this time

    Great. Carl's hand may have been forced but I'll give him credit fro accepting the challenge. He was IMO unfairly criticized after the first fight.


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  • #157
    Johner
    Registered Users Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    Looks like Froch vs Groves has been agreed. A date in May in a football stadium. Cant wait to see Froch batter him this time

    If Groves is a little more disciplined than the first fight which I expect him to be then he will outbox Froch. :cool:


  • #158
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    They reckon that the pot will be 10 million split in the 80/20 region Froch/Groves, an excellent pay day for both guys.

    My view on the fight at the moment is that I don't see what Groves can do any different this time. He fought a near perfect fight for 8 rounds before getting caught. I think Froch will be more prepared for him.

    My only issue with the fight is having to listen to Groves bleeting in the build up. Honestly he was so annoying the last time & now he has a gripe (legitimate or not) God help us!!!


  • #159
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,571 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I would think that Froch would be favorite. There is still questions about Groves' durability and strength and stamina. That is my concern after watching the first fight. Maybe a more cautious Groves can win on points.

    Engage, but not as ferociously as the first fight. Conserve your energy and power. He knows he can really rock and hurt Carl. The shots should get there if he is precise and methodical. George did waste a lot of power shots I felt in the first fight. This can sap the energy reserves.


  • #160
    boxer.fan
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭boxer.fan


    Great to see the rematch taking place. Clearly Froch has been holding out as long as possible in order to force a bigger purse - good business.

    My opinion on the rematch is that Froch really isn't gonna be able to change his style enough to avoid being out boxed by Groves. I can't ever remember Froch adopting a different technical approach to any fight. Groves has a real opportunity to pick up a points victory & world title here, so long as he keeps enough in the tank for the late rounds.


  • #161
    willmunny1990
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    Groves needs to be a lot smarter this time.

    After the first fight its clear he is more than capable of out boxing Froch, I think if Groves boxes the right way he can secure a comprehensive points victory.

    I dont think Groves will stop Froch, if Groves is to win it will be by points IMO.

    He'll really have to pace himself right this time around because no matter what happens Froch will be in this for 12 rounds.


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  • #162
    Deiseboy01
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Deiseboy01


    I think the very poor start nearly did for Froch in the last fight. Took a lot out of him. Generally a poor starter bar maybe the Bute fight so he needs to sort that. Start at a higher tempo. Stay focused. Allow Groves to win the early rounds if necessary but come on strong from the middle rounds and grind Groves down. Late KO for Froch IMO.


  • #163
    Henno30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Henno30


    walshb wrote: »
    I would think that Froch would be favorite. There is still questions about Groves' durability and strength and stamina. That is my concern after watching the first fight. Maybe a more cautious Groves can win on points.

    Engage, but not as ferociously as the first fight. Conserve your energy and power. He knows he can really rock and hurt Carl. The shots should get there if he is precise and methodical. George did waste a lot of power shots I felt in the first fight. This can sap the energy reserves.

    Agree with this. I think he traded too much in general, but more importantly he lingered too long in mid-range where he was too available for Froch. You can get right in there with Froch if you're able to get off and smother him immediately as Ward did. But you can't hang around in range for long stretches of the fight and hope he wears down first. His resilience is exceptional, and like you say Groves' durability in contrast is far from proven.


  • #164
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Henno30 wrote: »
    Agree with this. I think he traded too much in general, but more importantly he lingered too long in mid-range where he was too available for Froch. You can get right in there with Froch if you're able to get off and smother him immediately as Ward did. But you can't hang around in range for long stretches of the fight and hope he wears down first. His resilience is exceptional, and like you say Groves' durability in contrast is far from proven.

    Which is why Groves will fight differently next time. He showed inexperience in the first fight by wasting punches in order to try and wear Carl down. If he boxes from the outside, in a conservative manner, i think he'll stop Carl next time around.


  • #165
    Alpha Dog 1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Alpha Dog 1


    pac_man wrote: »
    Boxnation in shiny HD

    Balls, can't get that channel.
    Will have to look for a shiny HD stream.

    II'd expect both to win but it won't be straightforward, looking forward to it.

    EDIT I just subscribed for a month on the app for 12 euro, is this the regular price?
    can hook the phone up to the tv so its all good.


  • #166
    Deiseboy01
    Registered Users Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Deiseboy01


    pac_man wrote: »
    Boxnation in shiny HD

    How much is Boxnation a month? Lot of good fights on there.


  • #167
    Tiriel
    Registered Users Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    Posts tidy up - general chat thread here


  • #168
    tunguska
    Registered Users Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    Seems like a good while since there was a decent fight, is there anything coming up that would be worth a look?


  • #169
    Joeseph Balls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    tunguska wrote: »
    Seems like a good while since there was a decent fight, is there anything coming up that would be worth a look?

    There has been a couple of decent fight nights the last three weeks...

    March 15th.
    Danny Garcia vs. Mauricio Herrera


  • #170
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Joeseph Balls wrote: »
    There has been a couple of decent fight nights the last three weeks...

    To say the least. Those 2 cards on Sky Sports were nothing short of outstanding


  • #171
    tunguska
    Registered Users Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    Joeseph Balls wrote: »
    There has been a couple of decent fight nights the last three weeks...

    March 15th.
    Danny Garcia vs. Mauricio Herrera

    Cheers that'll do the trick alright.


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  • #172
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    So what did people make of Bellew tonight. Everything good & bad about him on display. He is a million miles from a world title IMO. Were it not for the low blow saving him he could well have lost the fight.


  • #173
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    pac_man wrote: »
    The whole card was dire. Hopefully the fights tonight will be better.

    Was working till10 so this is the only fight I have seen. How did Kell Brook look?


  • #174
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    pac_man wrote: »
    I didn't think he looked great. He got hit a fair bit but Ive always been a critic of his defense. Some knocked out from Bellew. Didn't think he looked great either.

    Yea he was lucky to survive. Brudov took some serious shots from Bellew to be fair. Apart from having another rumble against Nathan Cleverly I don't know where Bellew can go


  • #175
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    pac_man wrote: »
    True. Think sky were talking about a fight with Marco Huck. For me, It's a division that I can't get excited about. Just seen the knockout again, looked like your man walked onto a lovly checkhook.

    It is a bit of a nothing division alright but I still think that it's way too much for Bellew

    Don't gave Boxnation but really interested to see how Deontay Wilder gets on. I accept that he has been beating cupcakes but Scott should be a decent test for him


  • #176
    RezwoK
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭RezwoK


    tunguska wrote: »
    Would anybody have a link to watch garcia v herrera? Cheers


    Cant post that here dude (rules/Guidines)....


  • #177
    Frankie Lee
    Registered Users Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    Scott went down very easy, another step up for Wilder which he rose to but Stiverne or Arreola is another big step up.


  • #178
    Frankie Lee
    Registered Users Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    Herrera doing well enough here, being busier anyway. One left hook from Garcia could change everything.


  • #179
    Frankie Lee
    Registered Users Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    Very good round that, this is Garcia's worst performance in a long while.


  • #180
    Frankie Lee
    Registered Users Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    Herrera unlucky not to get the decision but that was to be expected.


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  • #181
    Talib Fiasco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Garcia lost that fight...nearly exposed just like Broner was by Chino...Herrera deserves a rematch but that'll hardly happen


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